Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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Well? And what about David Lynch in general?

Ally, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I think I was just too young to get it. I wish it would be repeated, I would probally love it now.

It was eerie and surreal. I like the way the main character (I'm terrible with names), always slept in such a perfect manner. And the dream sequences with the midget were cool.

Show it again, powers that be!

jel, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

First season -- astoundingly brilliant; second -- flawed, but when on it was on. I still think my favorite moment of the series is the end of the one episode near the last one where the camera tracks through a variety of empty office spaces while the voice of what's her name -- the police dispatcher, I think -- echoes away, then shifts to that bizarre scene in the woods where Bob's (god, it's been too long, I *think* that's the character's name -- gray long hair, beard) disembodied hand first appears, then all of him, the camera pans down to the ground, and in the water, the red curtains appear as some echoed sax seeps onto the soundtrack. AAAAH. Beautiful.

Him in general -- hey, even Dune had its moments. But let me confess I still have never seen Eraserhead.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

cherry pie

Ed, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Eraserhead = DL's best film by seven city leagues...
"In heaven, everything is fine..."

I liked the TP giant who appeared to say: "It's happening again!"
And the rude cop, Albert.

mark s, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

That's damn good coffee.

I lived in Seattle for a year, and that year coincided with the year of Twin Peaks' first season. We went to all the joints on the show, the hotel, the waterfall, the diner. Classic.

Ally, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The first series: BRILLIANT.

The second series: If I remember correctly it was a lot longer than the first, and it started off really well and the last episode or two is great as well, but there is this monstrously dull section in the middle where it turns into a tiresome soap opera. Soap operas are not cool.

The film: complete genius. what modern horror is meant to be like.

David Lynch generally: I think he's great.

DV, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I really like Eraserhead and Blue Velvet. I never really watched Twin Peaks. Dune was more entertaining than the book, which ain't saying much.

Kris, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The debut episode of Twin Peaks is one of my weirder memories...I was...12?...(yes, you shall all feel aged now)...and I was in the hospital. Earlier that day I had been in surgery and had slept for 17 hours straight; they thought I wasn't going to wake up. When I did, the first thing I did, inexplicably, was demand that I watch Twin Peaks and ate four sandwiches. I've never been right since.

jess, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I enjoyed the film too, DV, but don't you think it was a bit of a mess? I.e., only suitable to those already heavily involved in thinking about the things as a whole and making a ton of allowances for internal incoherence?

Re: the second season: yes, the soap-opera bits were atrocious. But in retrospect, I think of them so fondly. That ridiculous part where James leaves town and gets involved in the weird love-triangle with the woman and her abusive husband? And then just comes back to Twin Peaks, as if nothing had ever happened?

Nitsuh, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

We're all forgetting Invitation to Love, surely?

"And Clint Beefsteak as Montana."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Have I mentioned my college roommate who rented "Eraserhead" while in high school for a weekend and (along with the rest of his family, including 14- and 10-year-old younger brothers) proceeded to watch it TWENTY TIMES IN A ROW?

Dan Perry, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Is the same obsesso-family that had the shrine to Robert Smith in the bathroom?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yes, although it would be more accurate to call it a shrine to _Disintegration_.

Dan Perry, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I love Twin Peaks as much as I love Infinite Jest as much as I love House Tornado.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Twin Peaks was rather classic--I wish the series would be released on DVD for proper geek enjoyment. "Bob" is the sort of thing that makes me afraid to go in to the basement.

matthew, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Ally is well read and excellent on all fronts!

Pennysong Hanle y, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

All of Twin Peaks is wonderful - the soap opera bits in the second series work like the breakdown in "One More Time". It ruined television for me, frankly.

Tom, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I always wanted to be Audrey Horne.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

there has been no better television drama ever. why does ally like so many things that i like?

ethan, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Whatever the reason, I'm 100% certain that it's all your fault.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I just watched the movie for the first time. I never saw the series. Is it better? The movie was. . .odd. I'd like to rent some tapes of the series though and check it out. I was stoned, it's a good stoned movie.

Sam, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

well i've chalked up jay-z to some bizarre second-hand musical faghag thing on your part but twin peaks, that's just weird.

ethan, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dud. I could be weirder with both lobes tied behind my back. Eraserhead: okay, but, eh. Everything else: poopy, including Dune, Lost Highway and Twin Peaks.

Nude Spock, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Blue Velvet was good.

Nude Spock, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yeah, that explanation of Jay-Z makes loads of sense. Ethan = logistical genius.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Explains my like of Jay-Z too! How do you do it, Ethan? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The dream sequences are the most accurate depictions of dreams ever.

JM, Sunday, 9 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

six months pass...
are we falling in love?

Queen G, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yes, take me.

Ally, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the most Classic thing ever made. I was too young to see it on TV, but the renting and non-stop watching of it totally dominated my life for two weeks a couple years ago; I'd get home from school/work, pop in Twin Peaks, and watch until I keeled over.

Dan I., Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Classic, classic, classic.

Whilst still a student I lived with someone who had all the episodes on video. In our third year, due to freak timetabling I finished my exams earlier than everyone else I knew. For three days I sat on my own and watched series one and two back to back, only speaking to stressed flatmates when they came down to make coffee.

By all accounts I was a little odd at the end of it.

I *knew* there would be a Twin Peaks thread on here somewh

Anna, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

After being wowed by "Mulholland Drive" and feeling like I'm a fan of David Lynch again, I rented "Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me", which I never bothered with the first time. I thought it was a complete piece of garbage. It didn't even have nice photography. If I didn't have a friend over watching it with me I would have turned it off.

Sean, Monday, 1 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Still one of my couple of favourite TV drama series ever, despite the crap ending. And a lot of Lynch's films are terrific too.

Martin Skidmore, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

crap ending

I know what you mean, but seeing as there is no ending it's a bit unfair to pick on it for being a crap one. "Nonexistent" would be better.

Last week I watched episodes of On the Air, the surprisingly sitcommy show Lynch developed after Twin Peaks. Slapstick. Most of it played out like the Twin Peaks beauty pageant. Very torn as to its classicness versus dudness.

Nitsuh, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the biazarre thing when you watch twin peaks again is the humour - i mean it was all there, but yr head was too fucked up in trying to figure out if daddy fucked her or not...now it's camp, beautirul, emlancholic. genius

Queen G, Wednesday, 3 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nine months pass...
Funny Twin Peaks. When the original series was out, I was 13 years old, and a friend and I joined a Twin Peaks discussion group which met in a now-nonexistent bookstore on Southport Ave. in Chicago. We passed around cherry pie and doughnuts and tossed about theories regarding owls, UFOs, the Black Lodge, etc. One day someone in the group (everyone save for Katie and I were over 30) announced that they had the new Playboy with Sherilyn Fenn and proceeded to pass it around. That was my first exposure to pornography, broadly defined.

Classic, of course. I wish David Lynch had the energy to involve himself in each episode, however. The ones he directed are a world apart from the rest of the series.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

I meant to begin, "Funny Twin Peaks story."

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

I loved that movie.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

i only really got into twin peaks recently:a friend of mine had all the episodes on tape,another friend asked to borrow them,and a group of about four of them started to watch it all the way through...
they kept going on about it,and then another group started watching,then myself and two other friends watched it as well...
its great to watch all the way through,the thing with it is you have to see every episode...
its amazing how enjoyable the whole thing is,even though you could find faults with certain parts,overall it is so amazingly good i still haven't got over it...
nothing else on tv,except the simpsons,comes close,in my opinion...
bob scares the life out of me,if i saw that actor walking down the street i would probably turn and run...
the last episode was also the purest form of terror i have ever experienced-i'm not normally someone who likes that sort of thing (i never watch horror films if i can avoid it)but it is just so good you can't not watch it...
the second series did have some dodgy moments,but there are so many hilarious scenes,and most of the characters are so great,that even a "bad" episode is incredibly enjoyable...
as for the film,if you haven't seen the series there's no real point in seeing the film...
its great to have another twin peaks fix after the series ends,and it is truly eerie,but its not quite as good as the best episodes-the more humanistic touches are missing....
well worth seeing after the series though...

robin (robin), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

btw matthew the first series is out on dvd,at least in region two (uk and ireland)
as for the film being all over the place,part of the appeal of twin peaks for me was that it seemed like such an anomaly-that some weirdo had persuaded tv companies to fund a series you have to watch every episode of,containing loads of weird,fucked up little bits,and then got a film made that,although it was technically a prequel to the series,relied on you having seen it...this makes it all the more rewarding if you do get into it...

robin (robin), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've watched the first series but I've never been able to catch the second (when it was shown the first time i think i was too young) (hopefully I'll get it someday).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

The second season is I think still available on NTSC (that's American/Japanese format) VHS. It's in EP mode so it looks like crap compared to the DVD set of the first season (which is out in R1--USA--in addition to R2).

The actor who played BOB (Frank Silva) died not long after Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me came out, so no danger of spotting him on the street. The scene where he crawls over the coach to Maddy's horror is terrifying.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

The film (Fire Walk with Me), by the way, made a lot more "sense" before it was edited down to meet the producers' demands. The scene with David Bowie, for example, moves from the totally inexplicable to the very strange. Unfortunately I think there is much in the full script that is too literal by Lynch's standards, essentially rather obvious "let's fill in the holes"-type exposition. I'm torn between wanting to see the "full" version (many more scenes were shot than made it to the final cut) and appreciating the one we have for its evocative incoherence.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

apparently there was two hours worth of film with david bowie in there but Lynch cut it down to 30 seconds after deciding that he couldn't act! well, that's what i heard anyway.

I'll try and chase the second season.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

No, there's a short scene with Bowie's character in Rio de Janeiro (explaining the "I was in Rio" line) and the scene in the FBI offices is a bit longer. I think that's it. I doubt Lynch decided Bowie "couldn't act" since he is at the very least a strong presence in front of the camera and the role doesn't ask for too much--and after all Lynch has cast far less qualified people in major roles and used them effectively (viz. BOB and Laura).

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Twin Peaks - still one of my favourite shows ever. I lived for every Tuesday night at 9p.m. on BBC2 and remained hopelessly devoted even the identity of Laura Palmer's killer was revealed and my peers had given up on it. Delightfully quirky and every so often absolutely terrifying.

Classic. Classic. Classic.

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Monday, 13 January 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another TP story, I broke my toe because I was running upstairs (our TV was in the basement) to get a soda, trying to make it there and back before the second episode started. On the way back down I tripped and--ouch!--crunch--broke my big toe. So I had to go to the hospital and didn't see the crucial second episode (the one with the dream sequence) until months later.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

favorite TP character(s):

the seldom seen Hayward sisters Harriet (twee and so hilarious - 2 scenes) and her piano playing sister Gersten (awesome boogie woogie retainer speech affect - sadly one scene).

gygax!, Monday, 13 January 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

It first aired in Australia a little later in Feb 1991 - I was 14 and Twin Peaks + Northern Exposure was my ~entire~ personality in high school

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:25 (eight months ago) link

I basically dressed and wore my hair like Bobby Briggs for a year or two

rendered nugatory (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:28 (eight months ago) link

My friend's band played their first show on 4/8/1990* and THEIR 2ND GUITARIST stayed home to watch Twin Peaks instead lol.

*openers: The Melvins & TFUL282!

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:30 (eight months ago) link

for my 15th birthday that year my friends gave me THE SECRET DIARY OF LAURA PALMER

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:44 (eight months ago) link

my mom watched the pilot and immediately roped me in for the first real episode. i was obsessed with Bobby and fancied myself more of an Audrey Horne type which, in retrospect, is kind of disturbing. But not surprising.

To this day I am spooked by men who look even remotely like BOB and I think it's because I was 14 when I saw him for the first time creepin out from behind the furniture

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:01 (eight months ago) link

Imagine being the copywriter who had to figure out how to try to explain what Twin Peaks was in a newspaper ad.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:09 (eight months ago) link

I was 11 when I first watched the show and I literally threw the remote control out of my hand at BOB's first appearance.

Chris L, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 15:15 (eight months ago) link

The owner of the Palmer house is now doing paid tours of it, and has set up a BOB mannequin looming inside a cracked-open closet door.

bae (sic), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 17:27 (eight months ago) link

She seems cool, I've seen her social media postings and whatnot

rendered nugatory (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 17:28 (eight months ago) link

My wife and I stopped outside that house several years ago. Her license plate is TREMOND.

Chris L, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 17:47 (eight months ago) link

Did you see creamed corn on that plate?

subpost master (wins), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 17:51 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Was watching The Searchers and there’s a log lady scene about an hour or so into the film to an equally horrifying effect.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 28 April 2024 04:26 (eight months ago) link

Still blows my mind that Hank Worden (who plays Mose Harper in The Searchers) is also the waiter in Twin Peaks. I think that was his last role too. Anyway, he's in a lot of John Wayne Westerns.

birdistheword, Sunday, 28 April 2024 05:47 (eight months ago) link

My wife and I just spent some time in Washington and we went on a tour of loads of twin peaks locations. Felt very surreal being in these places we both new so well, huge recommend for the fans.

It was quite amazing how many of the scenes in woods were filmed in the same very small area.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 28 April 2024 09:38 (eight months ago) link

that's cool, was looking into doing that myself. Did you stay in the Salish?

Ste, Sunday, 28 April 2024 10:08 (eight months ago) link

We looked into it and decided that was too much money, but we did take pics outside of the waterfall. Most things we looked at on the same day by a Twin Peaks fan who does tours, it was very well done: https://www.twinpeakstour.com/

On another day we took the ferry out and went to Kiana Lodge where the interior shots for the pilot were filmed (they rebuilt it in a soundstage later). The same place is also where Pete Martell’s house exteriors were filmed, and the large log is still on the beach.

We could have also gone to the Palmer’s House which is a bit of a drive out from central Seattle - you can even pay to go inside if you like. But we didn’t get around to that bit.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:15 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

Amazing work.

TWIN PEAKS promotional poster from Ghana pic.twitter.com/xgAdkeyfId

— Black Lodge Cult (@BlackLCult) August 22, 2024

Alba, Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link

j’adore

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:35 (four months ago) link

obsessions movies chicago

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:38 (four months ago) link

Yeah, that's the bit I don't understand. Why is that on there? It's a real store, right?

Alba, Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:39 (four months ago) link

The fwwm one is even better

keep kamala and khive on (wins), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:48 (four months ago) link

The shop commissioned dozens of posters from Ghanaian artists, many of which were collected in the book Deadly Prey from Perfectly Acceptable Press, and the former owner of Odd Obsession now runs Deadly Prey Gallery selling prints of even more. Here are some of their Peaks posters.

bae (sic), Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:55 (four months ago) link

Ah, so it wasn't ever used in Ghana, it's a sort of postmodern thing?

Alba, Thursday, 22 August 2024 21:58 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just finished watching season 2 with my 14 year old daughter.

Seeing her shock at “HOW’S ANNIE? HOW’S ANNIE?” was so gratifying. I’m making her wait until she’s 16 for FWWM and Season 3.

That last episode was so damn good.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 15 September 2024 03:29 (three months ago) link

you should make her wait the full 26 years imo

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 September 2024 07:44 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Picked up this for next to nothing on Boxing Day--quick read, and of course I want to start a rewatch very soon (even though I'm in the middle of two other things).

https://ecwpress.com/products/wrapped-in-plastic

clemenza, Saturday, 28 December 2024 20:41 (six days ago) link

Funnily enough I re-watched 'Fire walk with me' yesterday at the cinema. Its a real punch to the gut, the way this switches from the lol humour in the first half hour to such sadness and tragedy..

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 December 2024 21:14 (six days ago) link

On my last rewatch I developed an appreciation for Dick Tremayne. The little Nicky storyline is dumb but Dick and Andy are pretty good together.

The James leaves Twin Peaks storyline and the Civil War nonsense is the worst. Pine Weasel rules.

Cow_Art, Saturday, 28 December 2024 21:46 (six days ago) link

I had the same reaction to Dick and Andy on my last rewatch a year ago!

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 28 December 2024 23:42 (six days ago) link

Ha ha the Cival War stuff was bat shit

Ste, Monday, 30 December 2024 09:55 (four days ago) link

Started S1E1 for the first time last night - the strings that Moby sampled are so distracting in a new context.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 January 2025 18:22 (yesterday) link

You've never watched it (or just the pilot)? I'm envious that you get to see it for the first time!

clemenza, Thursday, 2 January 2025 18:39 (yesterday) link

I’d never seen any of it! A couple of years too early on the initial TV run and then I just never got around to watching it somehow.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 January 2025 18:51 (yesterday) link

Hopefully you haven't read too much or set your expectations too high...I undertook The Sopranos, Mad Men, and Breaking Bad years after the fact and loved them all, so none of that was a problem.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 January 2025 19:08 (yesterday) link

I assume you've started with the pilot and not episode 1.

Jealous you get to see it for the first time.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 2 January 2025 20:10 (yesterday) link

yes, if you really started with S1e1 leap back!

milms and foovies (sic), Thursday, 2 January 2025 20:49 (yesterday) link

Er, yes, the pilot. Didn’t know there was an Episode 1 as well.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 2 January 2025 20:55 (yesterday) link

Pilot played US festivals from seven months before the April 1990 airing, and the extended version with sort-of-an-ending added was released on VHS in Europe in '89. For related reasons, the pilot was skipped altogether on VHS and DVD releases of the series until a 2007 box set.

milms and foovies (sic), Thursday, 2 January 2025 21:22 (yesterday) link

The pilot is just some 20 minutes added on to Ep 1, and the international pilot gives away some of the ending, so just start with Ep 1 and go from there

The whole point of watching the first 2 seasons of Twin Peaks (1990-1991) for me was it as an introduction to Twin Peaks: The Return (2017), which was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen

Dan S, Friday, 3 January 2025 00:50 (seven hours ago) link

i mean thats a hard sell

much of what comes before, especially fwwm, is amazing in its own right

but the return is incredible yes

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Friday, 3 January 2025 02:28 (six hours ago) link

Even harder for me...I warmed to The Return somewhat the second time, but not close (especially vs. S1). It would be like viewing the first two Godfathers as a warm-up for the third.

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2025 02:44 (five hours ago) link

RONG!

both are great but I really do think the return is the best part of twin peaks. taken as a whole maybe the best thing lynch has done period

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 3 January 2025 03:07 (five hours ago) link

otm

tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Friday, 3 January 2025 03:08 (five hours ago) link

Same here. As much as I enjoyed Twin Peaks the first time around, it was overall less interesting and much more uneven than Lynch's best work, much of which had to do with the nature of network television production. (Lynch was always a showrunner but didn't actually direct most of the episodes, and it's been made very clear that he became more frustrated and less interested in the show during it's second embattled season - even without knowing this, the uneven nature of his engagement was pretty visible as the second season wore on.) The Return was much, MUCH better and reflected how much he grew across all the films he's done since Twin Peaks. I had a friend who didn't like it and wanted a repeat of the old TV show, but it speaks volumes that she knew nothing of his other work. You watch Inland Empire and how far The Return travels from the old TV show is much less of a surprise. It reminds me of what Alan Leeds said about Prince - there are tons of Purple Rain fans who are just that, fans of Purple Rain who (foolishly) pass on anything else Prince has done. It's the same way with the old Twin Peaks TV show and David Lynch.

birdistheword, Friday, 3 January 2025 03:22 (five hours ago) link

Dougie...ugh.

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2025 03:42 (four hours ago) link

Xp Ha yeah I finally got around to Inland Empire as a NYE treat to myself and it is definitely like a primer / companion piece to TP: The Return (which remains one of the most thrilling and unexpectedly great art experiences of my life)

Cognosc in Tyrol (emsworth), Friday, 3 January 2025 03:47 (four hours ago) link

I’ll agree that the dougie of the first few episodes is rough. but it pays off

brony james (k3vin k.), Friday, 3 January 2025 03:54 (four hours ago) link

The guy who wrote the book I linked to above does a good job, I think, of capturing how unprecedented TP felt when it first aired, and then tracing its lasting influence into The Sopranos and lots of other shows decades later. The third season to me felt a little like Lynch was well aware of that--of how what was unprecedented in 1989 was now everywhere--and that he had to outdo himself and stay ahead of that. That's all I'll say. I remember these arguments when The Return first aired, and I was very much in the minority.

clemenza, Friday, 3 January 2025 04:03 (four hours ago) link


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