"I Love You"

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How many people have you said it to? How many people have you meant it to? How often do you say it? Too often? Too little? Regrets over saying it or not saying it? Every done an Arab Strap and faked saying it?

Tom, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thinking back...I've never said it to anyone. I'm evil. I'll say it when I really mean it.

jel, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've never said it. I may have said "I love you when..." or, "I love you in those delightful rupert bear pyjamas", but as for the BIG "I Love You", no.

However, it is very easy to tell someone that you "wuv" them. I'd like to think of that as a "mini" ILY that you can laugh over rather than stress that you once more, have said the wrong thing. I know I would regret saying it if I didn't mean it, and also if it wasn't mutual.

I believe two people, romantically speaking, have told me they loved me. I never said it back. COS THEY MINGED hahahahahahahhahhaha. Oh, I am a bitch.

Sarah, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

However, I have told Beth from the Gossip that I love her, and I do. And I also love the Moldy Peaches in the way that I love them so much I AM GOING TO KIDNAP THEM AND KEEP THEM IN OUR FLAT. Mmmmm... oh in fact, I love you all. NB, being drunk negates ANYTHING one might say including declarations of love.

Sarah, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think it may have slipped out once or twice

Ronan, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i said it. and meant it. it was inappropriate.

gareth, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've said it to a few people and always meant it or at least thought I meant it.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wish I never said it and more importantly, I wish I never felt it.

Trevor, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well I say 'I luv (or wuv) ya mate' to all my mates when I'm drunk but that doesn't really count I suppose. I think I have only meant it to one person but in retrospect I was misguided. I have faked it too but not properly, just when someone says 'I love you' it seems sort of rude not to say it back even if it isn't true so I muttered 'yeah, love you too, yeah' or something back. I'm sure he's over it now though.

Emma, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've said it to four people - one crush, one friend, one girlfriend, one relative, which probably covers the acceptable ILY spectrum. I thought I meant it every time but with the crush I was too young to know and with the friend I was drunk: both those two I regret.

I say it a lot, probably too much and periodically decide to say it less so that it's really special, but it never seems to work. It's probably for the best actually because if I did say it less I'd end up being one of those people off the soaps who says "Course I love you, I married you didn't I?" etc.

Tom, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I ask it more than I tell people. I am so insecure that I ask my mother if she loves me at least a dozen times a day. It is not so much that I need her to love me, it's the fact I want to keep my job. hahahaha Seriously, I haven't told it enough, I realize that. But it seems obvious to me so I expect the loved one realizes it. Or maybe it is because saying "I love you" exposes you, makes you weak? Who knows.

nathalie, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As far as I can recall, I have said it and meant it to two people, though probably not regularly enough to either. There is also someone to whom I never said it, when I should have, and which I have always, always regretted. I've always been deeply suspicious of the expression, as I think I tried to explain in the Love issue of Freaky Trigger.

alex t, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Every morning David and I kiss and say i love you
You can all commence retching

anthony, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

URGH VOMFEST!

Sarah, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Every morning I look down at my cock and scream " I love you " . THen he crows.

Pennysong Hanle y, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've probably said it at least once to EVERY SINGLE PERSON I KNOW, including people that I barely know. I've meant it to two (besides, obviously, family members). I say it a lot though, because I love everyone. I regret saying it to boyfriends I didn't mean it for though. I've been bullied into saying it, and I should've taken that as a sign that the relationship was just no goddamned good.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hanle y was one who's the other?

Ronan, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Now that's not true.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i stand corrected.

Ronan, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Everyone knows I love Nick anyhow.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oddly enough, I tell my wife I love her at least once a day, but I never tell my family members. Which is fair, because they never say it to me (mostly because they're waiting to see if I'm going to say it and I'm not giving in!). I mean, I don't harbor any grudges towards them or anything. In fact, I think my family's fantastic and I'm thankful every day that I have them.

Excuse me, I need to go tell my mommy that I love her.

Dan Perry, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hmm, well I've been truly in love twice (including the present) so have meant it at those times. Said it to someone else I *thought* I loved and wish now I could take it back. always say it when I talk to my mom, brother and sister-in-law. And once I said it by accident. I was about 16 and had just given a handjob to a new boyfriend when I suddenly blurted it out. I immediately regretted it b/c I didn't mean it. he mumbled it back as he pulled up his shorts. doh!

Sam, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was about 16 and had just given a handjob to a new boyfriend when I suddenly blurted it out.

For being willing to share a detail that most of us would never be brave enough to own up to, Sarah is My New Icon.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wait, you're not Sarah. Sam, then. But Sarah is My Other Icon. :-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I did that double-take too. But Sarah knows better than to say such a thing the day before she goes on a pub crawl with loads of regulars.

I hope.

Tom, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What? people are afraid to own up to handjobs? Perhaps that account is not appropriate for polite company but this is the Internet. And if I knew any of you I might relate such a story in the *middle* of a pub crawl but not otherwise.

Sam, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And for all these reason you are an Icon. :-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am like Ally. I say it to most people because I love everyone. The ones I talk to, anyway. Everyone else gets the result of my antisocial shyness-silence.

maria, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good, cos I was worried it was a very New York thing to be doing, running around calling everyone fabulous and sweetie and honey and saying "I love you! No I love you!" to everyone.

Either that or I'm secretly RuPaul.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ally is secretly Patsy from "Absolutely Fabulous". Isn't that right, sweetie darling? Kisses!

Dan Perry, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Disturbingly, my mom likened me to her when we tried to watch AbFab. Argh. I need a drink.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Too funny! So if you're Patsy, who's Edina? Otis?

Excuse me, I have to go have a hysterical fit in the corner...

Dan Perry, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Poor Wheeler.

Ally, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Otis as Edina? I have my doubts.

Fave moment in entire series -- first season, they're all singing happy birthday to Edina, they hold out the cake with candles, she smiles and laughs -- AND BLOWS IT ALL TO HELL WITH A FIRE EXTINGUISHER. Pure, distilled, anti-sentimental loathing and contempt -- oh god I love it, I love it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ned, you may like to stay away from the new series. It appears to be sentimental for itself.

Graham, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh dear. That does not sound good.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...
I told an ex that and didnt mean it, I mistook great sex for love. The one I did find myself in love with I never told her till she was in Japan. I didnt want to make things harder after I found out she was moving to Japan.

Mr Noodles, Monday, 17 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Outside of members of my blood family, one person only.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

4 (Outside family), 4, most days, no, no, no.

stevo, Tuesday, 18 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four months pass...
BAH.

Sarah, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Far too many people, though I usually mean it on some level. I don't believe anyone's ever said it to me.

Graham, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Why do people act like hearing/saying "I love you" from/to blood family is no big deal? Isn't that love, too? Why does saying it to somebody you have sex with mean more?

Mark, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My spouse, all the time; my family; many many friends. I don't think I've ever said it and not meant it, and rarely meant it and not said it.

Douglas, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's much easier to say to family because you're born with them, you're stuck with them, so they'll always be there (or somewhere). People you have sex with aren't guaranteed like that, so it's more risky/complicated to say it to them.

Maria, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So a pronouncement of love is reserved for situations suggesting permanence?

Mark, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thats does sound stupid. And sometimes I wish I'd said it when I thought it. But I was too shy and insecure. So I didn't. Meh.

Sarah, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So let's talk about handjobs and AbFab again. Such an innocent time it was, back up there.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Love as an emotionial handjob...hmm....

Mark, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

With family you're less likely to get a "We have to talk" answer to an "I love you" statement, so it's much less risky.

nickn, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Mum I love you"
"And what's why we have to see less of each other, mark s"

mark s, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

like you can by someone flowers as an expression of your love, but that can be interpreted as a cheap an empty gesture in the same way as oft-repeated "I love yous"

Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

BUY someone flowers

Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry i should have said i'm not one for saying it all the time, not never.

I’m a very affectionate person, I’ll have you know.

not_goodwin, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

jordan where is that dialogue you posted from? feeling siena over here

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

"seinfeld"

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

ok thx

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

lol

big (surm), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

My immediate family always said it to each other all the time. I think every conversation w/any of my parents or siblings ends with "Bye, love you." I've never said it to my grandma, aunts, uncles, or cousins, though. They've certainly never said it to me, though my mom every once in while has felt the need to say, "You know your grandma loves you." My grandma is mean and crazy and acts like she hates everyone, I'm pretty sure she doesn't love me at all. It would be so weird to hear her say she did.

My youngest brother has to end every evening by saying "G'night,, love you, sweet dreams," in that order, and expects you to repeat it. If you just repeat part of it, or in the wrong order, he'll get cranky and say it again until you get it right. It would be a funny way to mess with him if it clearly didn't distress him greatly for you not to just repeat it back.

I say it to my husband all the time, he says it to me all the time. I really like that.

Sometimes my husband's mom says she loves me. In fact, she says it as often as my parents do. She kisses me, too, when she sees me. I turn my cheek to that, and I feel weird saying, "I love you" beck to her, since we've had a fairly hostile relationship. Whenever I say it back as a reflex I fell like I fell for a trick, though she's not set it up as a "trick." She's just more affectionate than most people are and I don't know how to handle it.

I have a dear friend or two from high school who I'll say "I love you" to in a platonic way. And I say it to my pets all the time. The end.

How to Make an American Quit (Abbott), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

Some of you are saying you say it multiple times a day, doesn’t it lose value if it’s constantly being said and wouldn’t it sound more genuinely meant if said less?

While I don't think the above is true, ime the inverse is true: the less frequently it is said, the more it means when one gets one.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 03:56 (fifteen years ago)

it only means less if it's meant less.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 03:58 (fifteen years ago)

Romantically, two people, and really retroactively one shouldn't have been said.

Friendship wise, many. I don't think the phrase can ever be overused unless you don't mean it, then once is too many times.

Cattle Grind, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:05 (fifteen years ago)

I say "I love you" to all my friends and family when it's appropriate. And I've said it to all my girlfriends at the time I was dating them. It's not that big a deal to tell people who mean a lot to you that you care.

musicfanatic, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:06 (fifteen years ago)

musicfanatic OTM. screw this "waiting for the right time" shit.

Cattle Grind, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:13 (fifteen years ago)

eh there's a lot to be said for waiting for the right person though.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:18 (fifteen years ago)

absolutely. and I do think you need to wait for the right time the FIRST time you say it to someone romantically, but after that, ya know, if you feel like it, say it....

Cattle Grind, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:20 (fifteen years ago)

Poll - do you all ever say it while in the sack with your woman (not necessarily after sex, but possibly)?

I had a girl complain once when I did it saying that she felt like I only told her I loved her when she was naked. I felt bad but I mostly did it because it followed a very intimate and special moment. I said it other times too, and she didn't say it back all the time, so sometimes I think I beat myself up for that one too much.

Cattle Grind, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 04:22 (fifteen years ago)

This thread is so weird. I mean, love and relationship threads on ILX generally make me feel like an alien from outer space, but.. wow.

It's like a whole bunch of people going o_0 at how they don't understand how humans can be or get so damaged.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syw6aGuYJnQ

velko, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:02 (fifteen years ago)

It's like a whole bunch of people going o_0 at how they don't understand how humans can be or get so damaged.

I think it's more a combination of rejection of the idea of permanent damage plus some frontin' plus people not all signed up to the same notion of love etc

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

Bodies can be permanently damaged by experiences. Why should minds be any different?

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)

withholding verbal expressions of genuine love is weird and sorta raises questions.

― Get the Flaps Out (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, March 17, 2010 3:17 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark

this is not true of certain cultures

I request "Fireflies" (dyao), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

ilx dearth of empathy shockah. xpost

niminy-piminy cricket (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

TS "damaged" vs "altered"

tomofthenest, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, partly. I wouldn't deny the possibility of damage, but I'd want to say that it's a specific choice of word that represents an individual's experiences and attitudes more than an objective truth about minds.

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 13:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/06/say-i-love-you-lot.html

How to Make an American Quit (Abbott), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41i2teiTiyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

How to Make an American Quit (Abbott), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 14:55 (fifteen years ago)

I've never said I love you to my parents nor have they to me, but we know it's there. so ymmv

I request "Fireflies" (dyao), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

the differences in usage make sense to me. when people give each other more space and demand less from each other and you respect the distance of the public/private split, saying 'I love you' becomes about bridging that gap. Obv. it can just be said as a pleasantry, but then its for show & derives its flippancy from employing such a sincere sentiment, so still the same model. if your model is that expression comes through establishing long-term commitment to specific behaviour/values through actions, then saying it could be irrelevant, not the proper channel, maybe even a way of dodging expectations.

I'd say saying it is more fraternal than paternal, involves less responsibility, its less a comment on how the two of you act together and more a comment on what you think&feel about them separate to that. you can obv use this model w/out ever saying it. I think saying it to your lover can be almost like affectionately&respectfully backing off, stating your investment in them regardless of behaviour/actions.

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

I say I love you to my parents all the time because I do and I want them to know it. They do the same.

In terms of romantic love, have said it and meant it to five ppl.

t(o_o)t (ENBB), Thursday, 18 March 2010 03:35 (fifteen years ago)

I've never said I love you to my parents nor have they to me, but we know it's there. so ymmv

this. And i can't imagine saying it now unless something big was happening/about to happen - just saying 'i love you' out of the blue like that would strike me as suspicious tbh.

lords of hyrule (c sharp major), Thursday, 18 March 2010 07:44 (fifteen years ago)

"Sit down. No please, sit down. Now, firstly- WE LOVE YOU........"

yeha tbh that doesn't sound like it's going in a good direction.

DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 March 2010 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think I've said it to my parents, or sister, though I know I've written it and sincerely meant it. I should say it, where I have the chance still.

krakow, Thursday, 18 March 2010 10:21 (fifteen years ago)

"Hello, darling.
Yes, I love you darling!
Yes, I loooooove yoooooou!"

krakow, Thursday, 18 March 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

well, you'll know what I'm hearing instead of 'darling'

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Thursday, 18 March 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

<struggles>

krakow, Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

writer of epic symphonies, matchmaker supreme

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

Phew, our connection is still there; that is what I was thinking! Love you acoleuthic! ;-)

krakow, Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

*blushes*

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Thursday, 18 March 2010 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

ooh that's awkward, he didn't say it back

smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Thursday, 18 March 2010 13:28 (fifteen years ago)

i love...another

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Thursday, 18 March 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

amahler

丫 power (dyao), Thursday, 18 March 2010 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

(that's)

ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Thursday, 18 March 2010 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

nvr say this 2 ne1

Lamp, Thursday, 18 March 2010 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

That's OK, my internet love doesn't need reciprocation.

krakow, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

uh

tanuki, Friday, 27 January 2012 06:19 (thirteen years ago)

how does this work

tanuki, Friday, 27 January 2012 06:19 (thirteen years ago)

The phonemes have to flow just right. It takes practise.

Aimless, Friday, 27 January 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)

You can practise in front of a mirror, if you're self-concious.

Aimless, Friday, 27 January 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

you shouldn't regret saying this should you? i think you should be able to say it more and not have to fret over the consequences.

what i'm saying is i think i gotta to stop getting drunk and saying this to virtual-strangers/ crushes if it's the big deal that it's supposed to be.

but then..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGEOYmMe-aI

piscesx, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kx5rNw0rq4

I love you I love you I love you what's your name

Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)


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