We really don't care about theatre do we?

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People hardly ever talk about theatre on ILE. There isn't even a Culture:Theatre category. Is this a sign that it really is an art form whose relevance is dying? Or just that it's intriniscally hard to talk about on a global forum like this, performances being site and time specific?

Do you go much / at all?

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 6 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I noticed that too.

Last month I've been to a Proust theatre adaptation.
My favorite shows are from Pina Bausch, Alain Platel en Jerome Bel.
I was more interested in dance-theatre than in plays really.

I think modern/contemporary dance is no big issue here either tho.

erik, Sunday, 6 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

But Erik, one of the best Mark S moments was his attempt to talk about a modern dance thing Dr Vick took him to. He came up with "It's like Blake's Seven, but a different kind of silliness," which I loved.

In the four years I've lived in London, I've been to the theatre once. My last girlfriend (the Italian one who I talked about here some) worked for Amnesty, and got free tickets. We went to one things together. She offered me some more freebies this week in fact, for that new Tommy Cooper tribute that stars wossname Jerome out of Robson and, which I'm sure isn't at all an attempt to cash in on the success of the Morecambe & Wise tribute. I didn't think I could stand two hours of looking at a fool do an impersonation of my all-time favourite funny man.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 6 April 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, there are at least two musicals threads. Haven't seen much talk about plays.

I am interested in musicals up to and including (some of) Sondheim, from a pop, maybe even rock 'n roll, perspective. But as a phenomenon today, I think there's little to talk about because they have almost nothing to do with changes in culture. I don't know if that's a cause or effect of their audience (at least in New York) - very old people and tourists.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 6 April 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I got dragged to Les Miserables once, about ten years ago. It was just okay, but I wasn't mad about it. But I used to have a habit of going to stuff with people who didn't want to go on their own.

Being a social outcast has some advantages, then!

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

erik digibeet post here!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to do theatre, as a teenager and in college. By "do" I mean I was part of a small theatre company, as an actor, writer, director, ass't director, production-type-person, lighting/sound person, propmaster, etc. And after college I worked in the business office of a ticket agency that specialized in New York theatre -- so I got to see a lot of Broadway and off-Broadway shows for free. My most recent exposure to that world was in 2001, when I was dating a critic who would let me be his plus-one whenever he had to review some piece-of-shit play.

But no, I really don't care about theatre. Not that much.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I've seen two pieces of theatre in the last month.

Thus I am "sophisticated."

slutsky (slutsky), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I was hoping when Nory was here that there'd be a bit more dance stuff.

I don't see any theater at all, really. I've not even been able to keep up with film for the past few years, and at some point I gave up even trying; theater's unfortunately even a step below that in priorities.

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

There are two productions in NY right now that i want to see, The Blacks from the Harlem Theater Company and Fucking A on Broadway, you know the reworking of

edmonton theater is really vivid and i try to see one a month, but it is prohibtivley expensive.

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(Yeah, Nabisco, what happened to Nory? I liked her. Can you lure her back, please?)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

(Seconded.)

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Nory is megafanfab! And a grand person. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 April 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The whole "realism" thing is still being worked out. I think film overtook theater in this dept sometime around the New Wave and theater's still going through spasms trying to deal with it. I don't really go that much. We don't talk about theater here because we'd it's not mass-distributed so we don't have common events or artifacts to anchor a discussion. We'd all have to be like total theater-hounds to even talk abstractly about stuff, and one thing theater's not served by is abstraction.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 April 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

The whole "what eyes are seeing this" thing is SO much smaller w/theater, its circulation is so curt-tailed. So it seems less "important", in a "must have opinion on this" kind of way?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

(Nory's currently doing the jobs of about two and a half people, so she doesn't really have the time.)

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

We don't talk about theater here because we'd it's not mass-distributed

Quite so. This is the strength and the weakness of theater.

Skottie, Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you get her fired from one of them, Nabisco?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, that's mean! But if it would give her a little more time with no salary decrease...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

If someone could explain to me why theatre/er still has a point, I might get interested in it. I don't think it's the same as the paintings/drawings/etchings/whatever vs. Photos thing at all (because you can DO so much more with the former set than the latter whereas it seems like you can do less with plays than with film but I still feel really small-minded saying that but i think it's only because High Culture is still into plays and we've still got that thing where we think that They Know What They're Talking About despite the fact that every play review I read reads like it's completely made up of really weak excuses for a pathetic, unentertaining experience).

Dan I., Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

In NYC, Richard Foreman and the Wooster Group. They (forgive me) rock. And they've both been essentially doing the same thing for decades. But not only does that thing (those things) give unending returns (I think), it also seems as though nobody else has managed to do anything weirder or more interesting or dizzying or disorienting. Your standard theater just guarantees me ninety minutes of sound sleep. But things are different in Lodon, I think. Yes?

Methuselah (Methuselah), Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Er, that would be "London."

Methuselah (Methuselah), Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I just saw the Wooster Group's "Brace Up!," their adaptation of Chekhov's "Three Sisters," and it was absolutely fantastic. Only running for another week--GO SEE IT!

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 7 April 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The only good theater I've ever seen has been plays directed by Tadashi Suzuki. I'm sure there's more stuff out there just as good, but I haven't seen any yet.

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 7 April 2003 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

" it seems like you can do less with plays than with film"

What about the differences between watching a concert video or being at a concert. The is more excitment and energy live, it is happening 'now', and there is no setbacks of use of media when seeing it live.

I think potentially theater could be one of the most amazing artforms, but I've never seen anyone do much good with it.

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 7 April 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Somebody needs to invent mass-distributable theater so we can talk about it!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 7 April 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i work at the Guthrie Theater here in Minneapolice (ush-urr-ing), but i don't see much theatre outside the place.
just the same play over and over for a month---which is fine when i like the play---and i'm learning a lot about this mysterious art...but:
Six Degrees of Separation was shrill and the jokes were all flat. it WAS kind of amusing to watch our stodgy patrons reel back in shock and horror when the naked hustler showed up, and see them fidgeting nervously during the long silent boy-boy kissing scene, but christ i'm glad its not 1991 or whenever this was considered 'edgy' and deep.

tonight was closing night thoughYAY.
and next up is -Chekhovs's Three Sisters-. i am very excited.

and Top Girls at the Guthrie Lab- no idea.

anyway the Guthrie is nice and usually lush and well-produced an stuff, and i get starry thinking about upcoming Shakespeare but it is warping my young mind by relentlessly beating on about the CLASSICS. etc. i really need to find myself a wealthy sugar-momma to take out to other theaters.

ok i got my tightpants on- i'm off to lurk 'mysteriously' outside high-priced Edina hairsalons.

gabriel (gabe), Monday, 7 April 2003 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

We recently TRIED very hard to sit through the first part of "A La Recherche du temps perdu.' Sadly the heating was on FOOL BLAST, the seats were too 'ard to sit comfortably watching the show and... the show itself was a-trocious. Trying not falling asleep when the main character puts his head between curtains and his face is screened on those curtains while he is reading off an auto-cue. On top of that the book/play itself is loooooooooooooong.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 7 April 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Aha, you've been there too. Marcel Proust on Tour.

Erik, Monday, 7 April 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
'theater-hounds': Hand is such a card.

the pinefox, Thursday, 24 April 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't been to the theatre in ages, mainly because the companies and writers I've been following have done dick all lately.

good theatre is great. people who think theatre is obsolete know nothing.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 25 April 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

however, theatre only really works in venues seating less than a few hundred people.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 25 April 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
I haven't been to the theatre in ages mainly because the sort of theatre i like no longer comes to Glasgow. Ten years or so ago Mainly because of the Tramway) it was possible to come to Glasgow to see The Wooster group perfmoring almost their entire ouvre (the only place in Europe you could see it) of which i have seen Brace Up!, LSD (just the highlights) and House/Lights. Their new one "Poor Theatre" is just about to kick of in New York - i'd love to see it and am extremely jealous of you new yorkers.

In addition Lepage/ Ex Machina were frequent visitors to Glasgow and i think i have seen most oof his plays here. Theatre de Complicite don't come here anymore either. I miss stuff like this.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

what about DANCE?

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant to go to the tramway, this weekend, but forgot.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

are you dancing tonight?

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to but I have stupid things, to be up for.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan sums up my own feelings well upthread. Theatre is irrelvant and invariably dull. Upper class and upper middle class goons go to it to feel special and sophisticated. I've met these people and they are assholess so why should I want to be in their company anyway?

Mad.Mike, Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

well you're just in a theatre so you're not really in their company. The theatre i love most is not likt that at all in any case.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'theater' is so far from being dead that it has become the dominant art form.

Of course, this is only true if you disregard the technical differences between onstage performance, film and television. As far as I am concerned the differences really are minor technicalities.

In all three media you have scripted dialogue telling a story with actors, costumes, scenery, lighting, incidental music, and so on.

The fact that a camera lens imposes a control over the audience's point-of-view that cannot be utilized in stage performances does not make much difference in my view. Stage direction tries to filter the audience's attention, too, except it uses lighting effects, blocking of actor's movements, and other technical means that are somewhat less effective than a camera. The goal is quite similar.

Theater people are just blinded by their nostalgic love of certain techniques that must be modified or discarded in a filmed setting as opposed to a stage setting. They identify these technicalities with 'theater', abhor the new technicalities of movies and tv, and overlook the overwhelming similarities between all the various forms of the modern theater.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i completely disagree, movies and theatre are MILES apart (pictures telling stories vs. actors telling stories), or at least they are when they're good

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

tv and theatre, however, are definitely a bit closer.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The fact that a camera lens imposes a control over the audience's point-of-view that cannot be utilized in stage performances does not make much difference in my view. Stage direction tries to filter the audience's attention, too, except it uses lighting effects, blocking of actor's movements, and other technical means that are somewhat less effective than a camera. The goal is quite similar.

you're making like montage is just another nifty gadget in the film director's toolbox; really it is ESSENTIAL to film, much more so than lighting and blocking is to theatre

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't theater and film need be, um, dichotomized so aggressively. they can fruitfully feed off each other. by its very nature film and theater pose different artistic challenges. many qualities grouped under the epithet "theatrical" don't really seem very essentially theatrical to me--just a legacy of the conventional wisdom that film only became film after it tossed off its debt to the theater (and "griffith invented cinema" etc.).

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

well maybe i'm being reactionary. but i do think tv and theatre have a lot more in common than movies & theatre.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

bla bla proscenium arch bla bla.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

as an art form practiced in the real world, though, theater really has become marginalized.... any by film, i think, more than anything else. (film basically economically/otherwise supplanted entire theatrical traditions in a period of 10-20 years.) there's an argument that film is more appropriate for certain modes of drama--melodrama for instance. because its indexical quality makes it a better vehicle for spectacle and "illusion"--i think this is by and large true.

xpost

the spatial quality of film and theater are to a large extent opposed.... the camera's "field of vision" is like an upside-down triangle, whereas a conventional stage is a bit the opposite (why it's rare for a theater director to stage a signification action in the back of the stage--harder to ensure that the audience's attention is directed to it). so they pose very different staging problems. i don't quite buy aimless's argument that this means they are different only in the method by which an audience's attention is directed. i think there is a place for ontological speculation....

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

um, i mean, ROFFLE etc.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i think with staging it's a completely completely different ballgame, unless we're talking rotating stages or something here

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway i think it's obvious that there are possibilities to filmic narration that simply aren't available in the theater--and this has implications for what films can do, how they can engage an audience. what isn't often brought up is what possibilities are inherent in theater and unavailable in film, aside from the "immediacy" thing--and i have to admit i haven't considered that and other possible advantages of theater too much, simply because theater has never had much place in my life. i have really enjoyed some plays, though, of course.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been thinking about trying to go to the theatre regularly in London w/o seeing any adaptations or revivals. Could be a fun challenge!

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:05 (two years ago)

i was in the West End yesterday and passed by VANYA starring andrew scott and i was like wow, i didn’t know about that, i’ll see andrew scott in uncle vanya and i crossed the street to read the notices and finally realised it’s a ONE MAN SHOW inspired by uncle vanya and instantly i lost all interest can you imagine

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:11 (two years ago)

four months pass...

Been going on about an album of Patti Lupone cabaret performances from 1980 called Live at Les Mouches an another thread but maybe this is a better place. From earlier today before the slowdown:

Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 20:38 (two years ago)

This thing has such a cult there was even a reanactment tribute: https://playbill.com/article/diva-talk-chatting-with-lupone-at-les-mouchess-leslie-kritzer-plus-rogers-evita-on-disc-com-135109

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 21:42 (two years ago)

From the other thread:
Been digging a live version of “Because the Night” by Patti…Lupone. She makes it sound like an outtake from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 11:50 (yesterday) link

From this:
https://playbill.com/article/patti-lupone-at-les-mouches-vintage-lupone-club-act-arrives-in-stores-nov-11-com-155028

― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 11:57 (yesterday) link

Which was a midnight Saturday cabaret show she was doing in 1980 while she was in the midst of doing Evita.

― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 11:59 (yesterday) link

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 21:43 (two years ago)

From old cassette tapes! Pretty appropriate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMRF7PiJBAs

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 21:43 (two years ago)

I found some weird casting things while I was deep down that rabbit hole yesterday. Maybe I will post, perhaps on a new thread.

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 22:11 (two years ago)

Good in-depth review of the Jeremy Strong / Michael Imperioli Enemy of the People on Broadway. Interesting that it barely discusses the staging, where other shows directed by Sam Gold usually have conceptual tricks that overshadow the story and actors.

i wrote about "An Enemy of the People," those enviro-protests i somehow missed, Amy Herzog's Ibsenism and the gently troubling poems of Tomas Tranströmer, the allure of Jeremy Strong, and the inconvenience of telling the truth. https://t.co/JAekaWfHFS

— Vinson Cunningham (@vcunningham) March 22, 2024

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:33 (one year ago)

one month passes...

So given my recent NYC visit a couple of people were all 'Go see Stereophonic' and I did and it was quite good. And I had some thoughts:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-weekly-115-104293989

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 May 2024 18:25 (one year ago)

one month passes...

The documentary on Jeremy O. Harris’s Slave Play, on Max, is pretty great. It captures actors in rehearsal in regular clothes and scripts in hand, making drama in a way that I’ve only seen before onscreen in Vanya on 42nd Street.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 22 June 2024 15:18 (one year ago)

More SR during Velma reveal

Weird closedown after no her husband was not at home? remove?

Debug jazz climax

More SL in cell block

Reds out on punchline of each story in cell block

DEBUG ENTIRE CELL BLOCK IT HAS BECOME A HIDEOUS PALIMPSEST

Mama "reciprocity" fadeup slower

Debug Billy's office

Both reached flashbulbs: place movers in advance

Extend second Kitty tommy gun burst

Mama needs SR light in me & baby

Debug me & baby tracking issue

Half second longer blackout on second never even know I'm there

More razzle, more dazzle

Sign up on Velma exit music

Fan dancers completely unlit why did no one say anything do they think it's art

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 09:49 (one year ago)

scooby doo tech notes

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 June 2024 09:56 (one year ago)

couldn't start the show w/out me

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 09:59 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

Can wholeheartedly recommend the revival of Complicité’s 1999 play Mnemonic at the National Theatre, on the South Bank.

Bob Six, Saturday, 20 July 2024 16:14 (one year ago)

this thread title is one of my all time ilx favorites. on the rare occasions when I see theater I absolutely love it but I feel like it's the hardest of the art forms, along with maybe dance, to include in the pace of modern two-kids-two-jobs life for me

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 20 July 2024 17:54 (one year ago)

they need to start the shows at like 5:30 or like 8:30 imo

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 20 July 2024 21:07 (one year ago)

four weeks pass...

haven't done any play longer than 10 minutes since 2022, auditioning for another series of short pieces tonight with a group I've worked with for the last 15+ years.

didn't have a recent resume and they were asking for one so I put in a two sentence summary of previous productions I've done w/ this group and then posted a two paragraph excerpt from The World According to Garp

if this site were a food it would have NO nutritional value!!!!!!! (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 August 2024 18:18 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

Went to see the revival of Tom Stoppard's 'The Real Thing' at the Old Vic in London today. The stage design is excellent, and it's always great to have the privilege of seeing actors at work... But I found the play itself strangely remote and impersonal for a work about the nature of love, and was finding it difficult to concentrate in the first half. The second half improves a lot though some of the characters seem a little stilted. Overall, well worth seeing though.

Bob Six, Saturday, 14 September 2024 22:16 (one year ago)

three months pass...

This aside in the NY Times review of All In, with Mulaney, Armisen, et al:

Theatergoers likely to get the most mileage out of the show’s 90 minutes at the Hudson Theater are those who bust a gut reading The New Yorker’s Shouts & Murmurs section — they must exist, right? — where some of this material has appeared.

bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Monday, 23 December 2024 15:52 (one year ago)

Nice

I saw Cabaret last week in London btw and it was great. Fuckin bleak though! Happy holidays, welcome to Nazism!

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 December 2024 16:34 (one year ago)

two months pass...

not sure yet if i care about theatre, but by the time i am it may be too late.

― difficult listening hour, Thursday, April 27, 2023 3:56 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

my 2024 in small-town theatre

january: r.p. mcmurphy

march: cinna the poet (beaten and beheaded by a mob of old friends and current students) as uncredited cameo in my own multimedia modern-dress grand guignol julius caesar staged in the 1925 movie theater i work at (excerpt from one of the post-show write-ups my portia, a high school english teacher, had her field-tripping students do for extra credit: "i never saw a play before. i didn't know they were like this")

july: the one who plays all the women's parts in the complete works of shakespeare abridged-- this show is probably only 15% as funny as i thought it was when i was 12 but it's fun to do

also july: lighting designer for chicago (as documented upthread)

october: donkey in shrek the musical (had to rebuild part from ground up obv: my concept was "hipster bullwinkle" but if you think about it that's just code for "blonde on blonde"), wearing six icepacks strapped to my body like bombs

december: jacob marley in a christmas carol

also december: director of a singing-cowboy as you like it at my old high school, even though these two shows' performance dates had a 100% overlap, such that i would get into my makeup+chains, scare scrooge, get out of my makeup+chains, sneak out of one theater, drive to another, and arrive at as you like it usually just as the night's bewildered audience volunteer (coaxed onstage by touchstone) was finishing their scene as sir oliver mar-text

currently: co-directing hadestown at the high school, lighting the little mermaid the musical at the movie theater, prepping the winter's tale for summer in the park, just showed the film of caesar to its cast+crew after a year on-and-off of editing, trying to sell a christmas-season macbeth as a followup, directing the party scene from romeo+juliet as a school-play-within-a-school-play at a different high school...

https://i.imgur.com/VK5VbRM.jpeg

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 16 March 2025 12:28 (one year ago)

I hadn't seen an Annie Baker play until last year, when I finally saw a production of Inifinite Life. (Still haven't seen her first film, Janet Planet.) Would recommend it to anyone if it's produced in your town. Super mundane and super enthralling all at once.

the way out of (Eazy), Sunday, 16 March 2025 17:06 (one year ago)

xp dlh, i enjoyed your update immensely! please keep us updated

budo jeru, Friday, 21 March 2025 15:01 (one year ago)

eight months pass...

How was yr 2025 in small-town theatre, dlh?

My MiL is volunteering at our local community theatre so caught An Ideal Husband, Murdered To Death, It's A Wonderful Life and Assassins (which led me down a year-long Sondheim rabbit-hole). Going to try and catch more local musicals in 2026 - one company's performing William Finn's A New Brain, Natasha, Pierre & the Great Comet of 1812, and Pippin.

etc, Monday, 1 December 2025 19:50 (three months ago)

I was in a staged reading two weeks ago, at a community theatre in Stoke Newington. It went great. We only did three rehearsals and then just performed it once, but it was sold out and the authors were really pleased. It was a new play based on a novella by Czech-Austrian novelist Franz Werfel. It's about a charming civil servant who is very good at self-deception. A long-ago affair with a Jewish woman many years his junior comes to light, he discovers he has a son with her, this gives him a sudden dose of courage to stand up to the anti-semites infesting Vienna, but not all is as it seems, and his supposed courage turns out to be pretty self-serving. I got like 70% of the lines, no idea how I'd have memorised them if we'd had to be off book. I felt a little self conscious having so much of the spotlight and these other lovely actors only getting like 5 minutes. But I'm not going to say I didn't glory in it privately lol.

You never really know how to take feedback, whether it's just luvvie positivity or whatever, but I did detect some sincerity in the praise which I am going to bank

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 10:24 (three months ago)

The Tower Theatre? Five minutes from my house, you should've plugged it!

Only made it out to one play this year, but it was a great one: Lavender, Hyacinth, Violet, Yew at the Bush Theatre. A young person's coming out as non binary launches their father into memories of a deceased friend. Very moving.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 2 December 2025 11:41 (three months ago)

Can report the reading of the Werfel play was right up my street. I've never read him but I will try one of his bks.

Tower Theater is a really nice venue, has quite a few adaptations of books that went on to be well regarded films.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 12:18 (three months ago)

ah Sorry Daniel, I didn’t realise. Next time!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 13:45 (three months ago)

three weeks pass...

My personal Hell is being in theater productions forever with scene partners who can't get their lines out.

Currently living this hell right now in rehearsals. All my concentration gets broken while I have to listen intently for something that sounds like my cue line because the cue never comes as written.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 December 2025 01:35 (two months ago)

We ran the show and 40% of the cast is bad on lines less than 2 weeks prior to open.

The lead basically asked instead of working scenes that sucked, we could do a fast line through and go get chicken wings.

Community theater mang

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 December 2025 01:36 (two months ago)

20 minutes after we were given a 5 minute break, my scene partners are in another room playing with cats.

Community theater mang.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 December 2025 01:52 (two months ago)

almost two weeks to go, no problem! just needs to be right for the first dress imo

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 12:26 (two months ago)

My personal Hell is being in theater productions forever with scene partners who can't get their lines out.

Currently living this hell right now in rehearsals. All my concentration gets broken while I have to listen intently for something that sounds like my cue line because the cue never comes as written.

This shit is the worst. I did a play before with this one guy who not only was constantly forgetting lines, but would improvise and adlib, thinking because it was a comedy this was hilarious.

It was a sort of rapid fire farce and acting with him was fucking terrifying as a result. I hated him by the end.

LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 December 2025 13:19 (two months ago)

20 minutes after we were given a 5 minute break, my scene partners are in another room playing with cats.

Community theater mang.

I want to hear more about these theater cats

Modollno Kahn (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 December 2025 13:50 (two months ago)

I've stumbled onto these nice, considered theatre reviews from a London writer named Tom Bolton

https://tombolton.co.uk/category/theatre-blog/

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 January 2026 22:37 (two months ago)

But are there cats

calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 January 2026 00:04 (two months ago)

Xxpost lol so my friend owns a cat Cafe and he is the director. We rehearse at it.

It results, predictably, in divided attention. Except with me because I'm a dog person

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 January 2026 00:15 (two months ago)

That's cool Tracer, you never see anyone write about this stuff.

Last time I was served something up it was a youtube podcast on the current Fry production of Importance Of Being Earnest that turned out to be the same AI someone used to sum up an ILX thread.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 2 January 2026 10:34 (two months ago)

Yeah that's a nice blog, shared it with my daughter

Parallel Heinz (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 January 2026 10:34 (two months ago)

show opened. went pretty well after looking for weeks like we were going to fall apart, technical goofery aside (spotlights not showing up, projector being so low that people's heads blocked content on it, etc).

got reviewed and mostly panned in the local paper. in the usual awkward fashion, I got the only positive callout in the review, which has little to do with my performance and more to do with the critic only being fond of my character (almost all of his criticisms were the script). so of course, the review is what everybody's yapping about this morning, everyone upset. i don't entirely get it, I've been on the opposite side of the coin, being the only person called out for sucking in an otherwise positive review - and several times, I agreed with the negative comments on my performance (the others, I just moved on and kept doing what I was doing). validation isn't why you do theatre. but we're needy folk.

also had a major panic attack after the show ended. my OCD/paranoia is bad and I was already in a bad place pre-show due to doomscrolling but also overdoing it trying to get myself into the right headspace for the subject matter. was already teetering when swore I heard people laughing at me in the audience during my last monologue, and 'being laughed at' is a major trigger for me. 98% sure my brain invented it.

anyway, theater! it was still fun and I'm glad to have the opportunity.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 14:58 (two months ago)

validation isn't why you do theatre.

it absolutely is lol

Tracer Hand, Friday, 9 January 2026 16:28 (two months ago)

and in that spirit WELL DONE. how long is the run?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 9 January 2026 16:29 (two months ago)

two performances, so we're half done! lol....this was kind of an experimental piece so I think that works perfectly. I'd like to see this remounted in a few years taking the learnings we got from this one.

Morning Dew key (Neanderthal), Friday, 9 January 2026 16:41 (two months ago)

three weeks pass...

Surprising connection between the most produced playwright in the country and Epstein. (Not Mamet, L. Gunderson.)

Come On, (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 February 2026 05:41 (one month ago)

dlh, i enjoyed your update immensely! please keep us updated

How was yr 2025 in small-town theatre, dlh?

aw nice to read. first of all congratulations to neanderthal, congratulations to tracer, and god bless etc's mother-in-law.

march: showed the CAESAR cast CAESAR, a year later, in the same movie theater it had been staged in. the script for this complicated show, even when at its internal film department's request i color-coded every word of stage direction according to whether it was live or video or live-video, was infamously incomprehensible to everyone on the project except for me and the stage manager, and the cast of course couldn't see it when it ran (except for what you got to watch when you were a pleb hiding in the audience waiting to yell something), but all their friends saw it and told them about it and they were excited to see it and it was nice to show it to them.

april: co-directing and lighting design, HADESTOWN (TEEN EDITION). total adventure tbh, like a movie about teaching. the kids worked so hard. we lived in the theater (a ramshackle 100-year-old public high school auditorium: bad acoustics, but good equipment), slept in the theater, ordered pizzas. explained to the kids about the elusynian mysteries. tried to impress a sense of historical obligation. pumped in a lot of fog. told them they could have a "school play" or they could have strangers coming up to them crying unable even to explain what had been done to them and which one did they want. stomped around at spring-sunday hawaiian matinees like WHY ARE THE DOORS OPEN mr difficult listening hour the audience is drenched in sweat WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN HELL. the lights came up every night on seas of weeping parents. stricken dads groaning in the dark when orpheus turned around. (myself i'd begin crying on the same line every night, which was also reliably the show's biggest laugh: "oh-- it's about me.") closing night persephone broke down herself from end-of-show heartbreak halfway thru "we raise our cups" (staged as character-shedding "troupe" number, with midstage curtain closed and set vanished, so fine by me) and had to physically lean on her bestie eurydice to get thru it; a month later they graduated.

april, concurrently: lighting design, THE LITTLE MERMAID JR. idk if you're familiar with this show. ursula and triton are siblings and ursula has a mile-a-minute expository song detailing how she was passed over for the succession because of sexism. but everything else is almost exactly the same, tho in a departure from the movie the curtain line is no longer literally "i love you, daddy". i told the hadestown kids, who were running opposite it for a weekend and down in the mouth about tickets, that it was "garbage for babies", but of course the mermaid kids worked like crazy too and ariel in particular was living a dream and living up to it. (i was also proud of the chef.) i busied myself trying to approximate the gorgeouser movie moments-- sinking down shaft of light on final chorus of part of your world, prince eric surfacing from near-death experience to ariel's face eclipsing the sunset, etc.-- and on making almost all of the lights shimmer almost all of the time. probably nauseating, but that's the ocean for you.

july: directing THE WINTER'S TALE, set in 1972 and 1988. (ad copy: WHAT IS THE WINTER'S TALE? IT'S... and then a long list of mutually contradictory concepts.) the idea here was that the first (tragic) half is all monochrome high-toned domestic drama and the second (comic) half is tasteless popcult vomit featuring karaoke, boomboxes, characters dressed as darth vader and captain hook, and eventually a slow-build full-cast song-and-dance number to "should i stay or should i go", with the broken-spanish backing vocals translated into broken czech. ("i thought i was hallucinating," said three weekends of audiences' single czechophone.) the two halves are separated by The Bear Scene, which worked like this: the bear (me in a really unpleasant suit, but credited as "itself") approaches from the extreme distance, across the park, shambling towards the set thru the background of several minutes of scene while audience members point and whisper (and their dogs go berserk with vigilance); when it attacks antigonus he runs terrified thru the little curtain that has served as a backdrop for the heretofore strictly contained and stagebound action; the bear rears up and simply rips the curtain down (magnets), revealing a screaming antigonus and an entire backstage tentful of shocked out-of-character actors (scrolling phones, looking at scripts etc) who scatter in every direction as the bear chases antigonus thru the audience and into a nearby building from which treadwellesque sounds emerge thruout the following shepherd/clown dialogue. intermission. second half (your favorite), with its bizarre tonal shift, dance number, and celebrated Statue Scene, plays on the now-destroyed set, which the cast eventually rebuilds in front of you (magnets) just in time for the climactic return to sicily. now originally the plan here was to have "guest bears"-- to bring scene luminaries and old friends in to don the bear suit one night at a time-- but the bear run turned out to be such a white-knuckle affair (a few hundred yards of uneven, rootgnarled ground, in the dark, probably in the rain, wearing the world's blindest costume) that for two weeks i was afraid to hand it over to anyone. when my oldest friend (an oahu theater scene vet) visited for closing weekend, eager to be Guest Bear, a cascading series of medical and emotional emergencies meant that he instead had to stand in for polixenes (the king of bohemia) opposite my own standing-in for his own oldest friend leontes (king of sicily), while the guy playing prince florizel stepped up as the bear (and immediately did it better than i ever had: marvelous snuffling). a shambolic shoestring show but festive, and fun to watch disorient its audiences. suspect this of being Major Shakespeare. leontes' spider speech ("there may be in the cup a spider steeped / and one may drink, depart, and yet partake no venom / because his knowledge is not infected / ...i have drunk, and SEEN the spider") is just great. grateful i got to give it that last day. it was a matinee and some of the hadestown kids were there. i did my best, script in hand.

august?: think i was in a reading of TRUE WEST around this time, as the hollywood agent.

september: playing guildenstern in ...ARE DEAD (rip). i have kind of a freak facility for learning lines and never have to try very hard (at remembering the lines-- at the acting i am always trying and always failing) but uh i did have to try pretty hard here. hard stuff. actress playing rosencrantz was ophelia opposite my hamlet several years ago so that was a nice trippy reunion; we just hung out and drilled and drilled and drilled. a fun play to do for audiences who are feeling it. (we had both kinds.) i don't love it much myself tbh. "what if waiting for godot but you have to remember the details of hamlet" is not a pitch aimed anywhere but exactly at me, but it's also not one i much get the point of. you sure get a great exit tho, as guildenstern. i kept wearing a kirby tshirt to rehearsals so the girl playing ophelia gave me a little pink pin of kirby in fierce fighting pose, which i now superstitiously wear like a flag pin while doing any theater work, as symbol of strength thru mutability.

october: lighting ROCKY HORROR again, because a theater company that's not doing rocky horror regularly is just leaving money on the table. (we do it every two years. the other years a company on the other side of the island does it.) this is my third time lighting rocky horror and i can't exactly say i refreshed the springs of my art. (fave bit to light, every time: riff raff firing beams of pure antimatter at bellowing rocky cradling frank's body-- thus posthumously achieving his fay wray dreams-- as all light gradually drains to blood-red interrupted by lurid green blasts of antimatter.) there tends to be a younger queerer cohort in these shows whom it's nice to see have the experience and they always grow thru it. but the real interest for me was that this was the first full production in our New Space after many years in the (sometimes literal: see tempest notes upthread) wilderness. so it was my least adventurous rocky-lighting gig (the first one was on a giant parking-lot stage, during covid-- and also i played eddie, and i came in on a real motorcycle, from way at the back of the parking lot, a triumph motorcycle actually, with a wireless mic strapped to the engine, gradually turned up at the soundboard until the bike drowned out everything that was happening, which, if you are unfamiliar with the show, is that the LEAD is SINGING A SONG and you just FLATLY INTERRUPT HIM by RIDING UP ON YOUR AMPLIFIED TRIUMPH MOTORCYCLE while the ENTIRE CAST AND AUDIENCE SCREAMS YOUR CHARACTER NAME, and then you sing ONE SONG, are IMMEDIATELY CHAINSAWED TO DEATH, and provided you are not returning as dr. scott are then DONE FOR THE NIGHT: what a GREAT part-- meanwhile various logistical and technical constraints back then meant i had to light the show blind, in longhand, on graph paper, in my bedroom, then program it into the board as night fell and cross whatever fingers i hadn't already crossed against falling off the bike, so that's kind of a difficult experience to live up to) but in other ways this year was a big step, since this year's the first time i've lit anything in a permanent space i rigged myself. now lighting weekly thursday-night drag shows in this space; it's nice because the queens' expectations tend to have been set by handheld spotlights in bars and they relish the full theatrical setup.

december: directing A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM back at the high school (companion concept to winter's-tale-in-july). mostly let the students take the reins on this and they chose a fairly trad direction so it did not have any of my tasteless Concepts: probably for the best. but what it did have is a real abundance of fairies, since post-hadestown the program has swollen far beyond last year's numbers. we gave half of titania's lines away to her fairies, then created a whole matching crew of fairies for oberon and gave half his lines to them. pains me a little because while titania+oberon's lines are in textbook iambic-p, the lesser fairies in the original text talk in the same trochaic verse used to such effect by the witches in macbeth: it's shakespeare's creepy-nursery-rhyme idea of old magic. our version had peaseblossom and cobweb talking half the time in titania's regal blankverse. that's okay tho: kids should have lines. our nerdiest senior was dramaturge and helped prepare the text so we worried over all this stuff together; that was a nice interest to share.

upcoming: king midas in a staged reading of METAMORPHOSES (february); lighting design and geoffrey the sociopathic middle kid for THE LION IN WINTER (march); assistant lighting design for IN THE HEIGHTS (also march); codirecting COME FROM AWAY the frank capra 9/11 musical (april); repeatedly promising to audition for THE REAL INSPECTOR HOUND (also april). not pitching a shakespeare in the park this summer. still trying to make macbeth happen.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 6 February 2026 11:04 (one month ago)

one month passes...

I've had shows canceled due to a variety of reasons. The one I'm in now is about to go under because my friend hired an unhinged egomaniac who repeatedly said her reason for wanting the position is "proving to everyone she can do this" (with little to no regard for the product itself) who has managed to start a fight with a lead who is ready to quit...before we'd held a single rehearsal.

Sometimes I'm amazed productions ever see the light of day! Sadly this isn't even in the Top 3 of bizarre reasons I've had a show canceled

Strawmandalorian (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 March 2026 00:29 (one week ago)

The position being *producer* even though their idea for fundraising production costs amounted to starting a GoFundMe for the play

Strawmandalorian (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 March 2026 00:30 (one week ago)

Oof. Were you in rehearsals yet?

Come On, (Eazy), Wednesday, 11 March 2026 02:15 (one week ago)

Nope.

It's officially pulled tonight. Producer said something borderline abusive to my friend who abruptly quit.

I'm not even mad. Feel like I dodged a bullet. My friend can't fire her because the producer is the one who entered the show in the festival- but playwright does have right to pull show itself which he's done so producer can't recast

Strawmandalorian (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 March 2026 03:37 (one week ago)

To my OTHER friend that is

Strawmandalorian (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 March 2026 03:38 (one week ago)


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