how do you deal with someone who deliberately tries to make you feel small?

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cos someones just given me the sh*ts.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

write a song about an inventive way of murdering them.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

can't. will you write one for me Di?

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i will try!

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel better already!

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

You think I won't
sneak into your garage
You think I won't
break into your sedan

You think I don't
know you sleep on the
other siiiiiiide
of the waaaall

CAUSE I'M COMIN THROUGH THE WALL
YEAH I'M COMIN THROUGH THE WALL
IN YOUR VERY OWN CAR
GONNA CRUSH YOUR GUTS
CAUSE I'M COMIN THROUGH THE WALL
YEAH I'M COMIN THROUGH THE WALL
WITH MY FIST IN THE AIR
GONNA HEAR YOU SCREEEEEEEAAAAAAM

etc.
it's a start

Millar (Millar), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

search for "verbal self-defense"

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar: for some reason I can hear that sung a la Adam Sandler singing his dodgy "please kill me" song from The Wedding Singer. I've no idea if that was yr intent.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

wear high heels.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

millar is genius

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

becoming a Nietzschean Superman who lives forever and is really good with mind maps is clearly the best revenge

Aaron A., Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

what are their reasons for trying to make you feel small?
are you too big? or do they want to be big?

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I know!
train and army of rats and first have them eat into his garage (similar to Millar's song) and have them eat his tires. Then have them eat him, but watch out for your mother. They might try to eat her.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

why would my mother be in the garage?

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

rehearsing?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 10 April 2003 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

your mom is HUNTA-D

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 April 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry?? googled: HEAVY NEW BOOTLEG BY THE HUNTA "BLUDCLART" D

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"why would my mother be in the garage?"
no, she is in the house where you keep the rats.

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

thank god, i thought you was suggesting my mutha slept with creeps.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.slipcue.com/music/pop/popimages/imgs_reissues/imgs_teenpop/comp_girlsinthe.gif

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 10 April 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

You DON'T. by showing YOURSELF that they are not worth the effort you have ultimately disarmed them. who they fuck are they anyway? fuck 'em.

That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 10 April 2003 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)

who they fuck are they anyway? fuck 'em.

Seriously, is this someone who's worth the brain power to think about? If not, dismiss him/her to stew in his/her negative karma.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 10 April 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)

they can only make you feel small if you give their actions credence and relevance

once you allow them to make the comments, ie, dont refute what they do, just like, ok whatever, no problem, it makes them rather pointless. ie, think to yourself "its important to this person to do this, why not let them". never show any annoyance, never refute them or defend yourself.
make it that they are the only one taking part in the exercise, that they are the only one putting in any effort

BUT! if you care about this person in any shape or form you have a tougher job. i mean, you want to make them irrelevant reall,y but if you want them to stay relevanet because you care about them, thats a harder path

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:45 (twenty-two years ago)

ie, dont validate their behaviour

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:46 (twenty-two years ago)

nip their archilles tendon really hard.

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 10 April 2003 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)

will try a combination of not validating their behaviour and nipping their achilles. actually i did a combination of j.lu and gareth's advice. in high heels.
later, without actually apologising they did a bit of a turnabout.

next time though...grrrr

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Piss on them. I really mean this. Sneak up behind them and take a widdle on their shoes.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 10 April 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

See *ANY* of the threads about Whoreton.

What you do, is cut them out of your life. Just ignore them. They are lint. Get yerself a fabulous new boyfriend/girlfriend/friend/S.O. and when the annoying person finally cottons on that you don't care about them, they will come running after you. And it will be too late. Hah!

kate (suzy), Thursday, 10 April 2003 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

And piss on them too.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 10 April 2003 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

My flatmate's boyfriend does this to me every time he comes round (tactics varying from holding the door shut while I try to open it to making snidey remarks about the washing up not having been done). I handled the situation by phoning a friend and telling her what a CUNTFACED WANKER he is very loudly when I knew he'd be able to overhear. I made sure to say why I thought he was a CUNTFACED WANKER and also repeated a few times how much I like my flatmate, in case she was listening. Since that time, I have just avoided speaking to him.

Of course, the grown up thing would be to put to good use the assertiveness training my work sent me on a couple of years ago but screaming CUNTFACED WANKER down the phone is much more fun.

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

women, give them in inch...

...they'll take...a metre.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Samantha and gareth are pretty much otm. I just wish it were easier to follow such advice, because I am pretty easily hurt and tend to take insults, etc. like that to heart.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I had to go take pictures with my boss and his partner again the other day. My height proved to be a HUGE problem because I towered above both of them and it just didn't look right. So, the photographer ended up sitting one of them in a chair and making the other stand on a very tall box so I'd be a little shorter than he was. Grrr... Talk about making you feel smaller! If I were male, they wouldn't have bothered with all of that. They would have just let me be tall.

Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

All that "don't validate them" stuff is OTM. Smile at them sweetly, hum a wee tune, act like you are the happiest person on the planet. It drives them mental coz they have no come back.
Failing that, piss on them.

smee (smee), Thursday, 10 April 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

If there’s one thing I can’t stand it’s a small minded fucko who wants to be a big boy. There are two key areas here, if you are dealing with a real wanker.

One: the physical - basically use your body to intimidate and threaten, or give yourself an advantage in a confrontation. I'm not talking about smashing them to the floor with a cudgel but you can antagonise someone by closing the physical proximity between you. Either total eye-contact or total non-eye contact and slow measured breathing can also unnerve. When you blink, do it with purpose. Stay as still as possible and any movement should be deliberate and measured. Don’t fidgit or shift about. Slowly clench your fist perhaps or flex an ankle if you are seated, basically what your are communicating is that you are in control of your feelings at this time but also you are not someone to be fucked with, as there is a fire inside that you are comfortable about unleashing. Keep your mouth shut and clench your jaw so that your antagonist can see the muscles in your neck tense. Don’t be afraid or timid, sit or stand upright and don’t fold your arms or legs, a defensive posture, you want to try and use your body to suggest the possibility of physical retribution if they go too far. If they lay a finger on you tell them firmly and quietly to take their hands off you, and if they start waving their arms around, swearing or getting really animated ask them politely to please calm down. If all else fails, and if you can get away with it, a show of force might keep an opponent at bay, and certainly give them cause to think more carefully in future – the headbut being the most devastating psychological blow you can strike. Or there’s always the cudgel…

Two: Mental of course. Firstly say as little as possible – let fucko fill the gaps and silences with whatever shit they are spewing, if you are lucky and they are not too bright, as most people who go out of there way to make people feel small are, then they will shoot their own foot off without you having to say too much at all. If they do happen to start talking nonsense, ask them calmly to explain their last sentence. Getting them to repeat any more outrageous statements they make is another method of underming the validity of what they are saying. A smile in such circumstances is a useful weapon too, as it pisses people off if they are trying to be righteous, and once you start pissing them off, you can prize the initiative from them or at least take some satisfaction from the exchange. When you do speak, stick to the subject and do not go on a tangent or get distracted. Don’t ‘err’ or uhm’ and use your words sparingly. Don’t give anything unnecessary away with long excuses but don’t be unhelpful. Address any issue they bring up directly and succinctly and stay mildly pleasant throughout the exchange. They will try and interrupt you in which case state firmly that you wish to finish your sentence and keep your voice low and steady; this will put your antagonist off balance because if they are loosing it, they will become more acutely aware of this, and they will also have to make an effort to hear precisely what you are saying. Don’t be cocky or arrogant but be sure of your position. If they wander off subject, point this out and explain calmly with raised eyebrows that in this instance, you don’t think what they have just said is particularly relevant. This is sure to enrage but if you are occupying a sure position, it’s a fair gambit to employ.

If someone is trying to take you apart in front of others, if you remain calm, stand tall, and speak clearly, it is likely that they will be the one to look like a dick, not you. If its something going down at work, you can ask to have a witness present as you uncomfortable with some of the things being said, which immediately will give your antagonist cause for thought.

In the case of a more, shall we say, informal, disagreement, a good insult or a threat is always a classic. Tell your antagonist quietly that you’d like to continue this fascinating debate but unfortunately, the stench of their bad-breath is leaving you in need of fresh air, or that if they don’t shut their stinking maw of mouth, you might have to take a spanner to their teeth. Attacking personal deficiencies and exploiting insecurities is ruthless but effective. A bald man is going to be very touchy about their lack of hair for example. You can be subtle about such things, and just drop words pertaining to their lack rather than pointing it out directly. Stare at their gleaming dome or bushy eyebrows or sweating palms. If it’s a major insecurity, they’ll instinctively pick up on it and start to feel uncomfortable. If there are other people around, they are likely to realise what is going on and laughter is a valuable ally. Get the crowd on your side a keep them there with a calm, agile wit.

Alex K (Alex K), Thursday, 10 April 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahahaha alex you spazz

zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I think a lot of people have succeeded in making me feel small and rather crappy, but I'm not sure it's always been deliberate. I think I'm trying to learn a 'fuck you pinhead' attitude lately.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks Zemko.

Alex K (Alex K), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

No one can make me feel small, but myself. Usually, I just give the offender a frigid stare, then walk away.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 10 April 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Nichole's advice, but it is hard to do with people you work with.

isadora (isadora), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

yes. i stew a bit too. dream of sinister ans subtle revenge. keep singing millars song.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

yes. i stew a bit too. dream of sinister and subtle revenge. keep singing millars song.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)


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