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i was just eyeing up the i-books in dixons. alluring little things. my decision will be swayed laregly by one thing though - how easy is it to download software (of the nature of photoshop, cubase, suchlike) for it without resorting to one of those PC emulators?

― matthew james (matthew james), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

It's easy if you know how - I'm no expert, and I can do it. You just need Limewire/Acquisition, a decent connection, and a lot of patience.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

You might have trouble using Photoshop on an i-book though (or do you mean a Powerbook?)

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Carracho and limewire will get you everything you need. And photoshop will run just fine on an ibook but get more RAM than installed as standard

― guess who, Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

RAM is dirt cheap. If you want OS X to fly even on a G3 get over 512Mb RAM.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

What's Carracho?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Max out the RAM on an iBook and you'll have no problem running pretty much any program you want. Best laptop you can get for the money, Mac or PC, in my opinion.

Oh, and Limewire, Acquisition, and Carracho should get you any program you'd need.

― mattbot 5000, Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.carracho.com

― guess who, Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean an i-book. the 14"-er, which has twice the RAM. 256, i think. how difficult are upgrades on the thing? i should have asked these questions in dixons but those fuckers don't know what a AA battery is.

― matthew james (matthew james), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.crucial.co.uk/ is good for memory. Upgrading is a doddle, lift up the keyboard unscrew the flap and push the memory in place. It will take you 2 minutes, tops.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

sounds alright. problem is trying to buy one in yorkshire, everyone you try to buy from looks down on you, like you think you're better from the common man. it's a battle to sway the salesman. "look! i've got twenty £50 notes for you!" "just trying to do you a favour, cock."

― matthew james (matthew james), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Where in Yorkshire are you?

Gordon Harwood in Alfreton are alright (I know thats derbyshire but its not far from sheffield). There's trimac in Sheffield who fix my computer who are good.

Dixons quite frankly don't deserve the time of day and they treat everyone like shit.

Just had a thought John Lewis/Cole Brothers whatever its called in your town sell iBooks with a free extra years warranty which is worth something plus they're 'never knowingly undersold'. My PowerBook came from John Lewis.

You might want to wait a couple of weeks if you can. There's strong rumours of upgrades to the iBook range which means either a better iBook for you or a cheaper one from the current stock.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

One caution on the RAM install, though -- the screws under the keyboard that hold the plate that covers the RAM slots are TINY (like eyeglasses screws, basically). Get the smallest phillips head screwdriver you can find and be careful you don't drop one of the screws in the damn iBook.

Other than that, the RAM install is a slice of pie.

― mattbot 5000, Thursday, 10 April 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

£1.99 for a set of magnetic computer scredrivers from maplins, eh voila, no dropped screws

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait -- isn't Mac RAM k-expensive?

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

its the same stuff as pc ram

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

and for that matter it always has been

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

So Apple sells it for an enormous markup then?

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry that link should have been http://www.crucial.com/uk

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

The memory prices in the apple store are exorbitant.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

One caution on the RAM install, though -- the screws under the keyboard that hold the plate
that covers the RAM slots are TINY (like eyeglasses screws, basically). Get the smallest phillips
head screwdriver you can find...

I have been trying to do this to my gf's i-book for (literally) months. I think I've broken the screws or something. Any tips?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

cf 512Mb for an iBook 800

crucial £110.44

as and Apple stor BTO option £120

so its not as bad as I thought actually.

Remember notebook memory is always more expensive that desktop memory

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Buyer beware and all that, but this looks like a phenomenal deal:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14909&item=3411864865

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

What bit of the screws have you broken? Please say you haven't ground out the slots.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

What bit of the screws have you broken? Please say you haven't ground out the slots.

Ummmmmmmm...

...I MAY have ground out the slots.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, you need a flat jewlers file, a really thin one, a scredriver of the slots you are about to cut a hoover and a lot of patience.

Power down you computer, take out the battery and open it up. Earth yourself by touching a bare bit of metal like a radiator pipe. For this you might want to get hold of a ground strap. Careully file new slots in the screw heads till you can get the screw driver in and release the screws. Hoover out the computer thouroughly before starting up the computer again. If that doesn't work you'll have to drill out the screws and re tap the holes.

Let this be a lesson to you to always use the correct screwdriver. Did you know that there are two different and incompatible styles of cross head screwdriver and screw.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I've broken the screws or something. Any tips?

Actually, I had this exact same problem. I gave one of the screws one twist, the screw didn't budge but the head of the screw was pretty mangled. It was like the screw itself was a really soft metal. At any rate, I used the corner of a razor blade to file away a little bit of a groove, and the screwdriver worked fine, but I had to put a lot of downward pressure on the screwdriver to keep the head locked in the grooves. Kinda harrowing, but it turned out OK.

Thought I had royally screwed myself for a minute though...visions of voided warranties, etc.

― mattbot 5000, Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh, "royally screwed." Gotta love the unintentional pun.

― mattbot 5000, Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Earth yourself by touching a bare bit of metal like a radiator pipe. For this you might want to get hold of a ground strap.

Thanks, Ed. However, this sounds vaguely terrifying.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

static charges in your body can kill micochips. This just drains any stored charge in your body.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

my little blonde beauty ibook has fits when i load and run photoshop or those chunkier design suite progs, bought or pirated.

― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Which iBook, how much ram, which OS?

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

a/s/l?

― Graham (graham), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

a/s/l??

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you cyber?

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

osx and dunno re ram but i need, apparently, to buy more memory. it's a g3 - bought it 18 months ago....i just liked it cause it was spunky...i only need it for writing and internet trawling.

― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Friday, 11 April 2003 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Go to the /Applications/Utilities/ folder and open up the apple system profiler and that will tell you how much ram you have in which slots.

I'm guessing it has 128Mb if its untouched, add another 512Mb if you can afford it. Everything will get so much faster.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 11 April 2003 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.cdaccess.com/gifs/shared/front/large/secretmi.gif

...oh, wait, I don't think it ever came out for the Mac. Never mind.

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 11 April 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

any more details of these update to the ibook rumours? i have my sources, btw?

― matthew james (matthew james), Saturday, 12 April 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i wonder what that last sentence i wrote meant.

― matthew james (matthew james), Saturday, 12 April 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Ed (or any other Mac UZ0RZ), have you/do you use virtual PC?
1.Does it work?
2.If so, where can i get it?
3.Can you run filesharing software (i.e. Kazaa, slsk) on it?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 14 April 2003 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't have it but I may get it for the same reason. However

1) yes
2) see above
3) I can't gurantee it but I don't see why not

― Ed (dali), Monday, 14 April 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, because right now (outside of Acquisition and Limewire, which are, errrr, inadequate) I am downloading stuff on slsk on my brother's pc, then uploading stuff to my Yahoo Briefcase and then downloading again on my mac for itunes and burning. Doh.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 14 April 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

see also iSwipe and iSwipe X which claim to search hotline carracho, napster (why?), open, napster and gnutella.

Gnutella has been going through an upswing recently.

― secret squirrel, Monday, 14 April 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"3.Can you run filesharing software (i.e. Kazaa, slsk) on it? "

Virtual Pc cannot take advantage of "hardware" its an emulator running inside the OS you can run a program but it cant use your ports (To print dialup whathaveyou)

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

it can however share the network connection/dialup of the host machine using the mac os x connection sharing and having Windows look for a router at 127.0.0.1 .

― Ed (dali), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

dude!

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

And yes it can use the serial ports, and USB I think. Where did you here that?

iSwipe is kind of OK (works w/Open Napster and Gnutella), but only 1 in 15 downloads ever start.

― Graham (graham), Monday, 14 April 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Its what I always read about vpc?! I assumed its true.

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Monday, 14 April 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Nordicskillz has already found the best method for a mac! Its painful dling with this ibook

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Monday, 14 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

huh? why painful?

― Ed (dali), Monday, 14 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Limewire &carracho always lock and die or the dls stall . its been fairly hopeless since napster (for me anyway)

― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Monday, 14 April 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Limewire is written (badly) in java and should be avoided, use mutella or Acquisition for gnutella.

Carracho works fine for me.

― alkjdaklj, Monday, 14 April 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Acquisition has worked best for me as well. SlskX doesn't work at all.

― Sean (Sean), Monday, 14 April 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I a douchebag for buying all my apps? I test them via Limewire or whatever, but promptly make my decision regarding whether or not I should purchase the software and then trash it off my machine. I then scout out ebay for deals or find some way of obtaining a legal registration code for cheap. It's not too difficult to pay much less than sticker price for any software that's about a year old, but I suppose I could just run it for free, huh?

― Scaredy Cat, Monday, 14 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I am installing debian linux on Virtual PC so I can use pySoulseek. Sledgehammer and nut I know but it appears to be working. Virtual PC is acting like another computer on our home network and I used netinst to grab all the required packages so the networking thing seems to work just fine.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 21 April 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

You have Virtual PC Ed? Any chance of a copy?

(Wouldn't Soulseek on VirtualPC and Windows XP be more suitable?)

― Graham (graham), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

It would have but gareth couldn't find his xp disk. I wanted to try setting up debian anyway. I've hit the wall, see boring computer questions thread for details.

I've deleted the .dmg without burning it, which is dumb, but its all over gnutella, fink yourself mutella and get a copy. look for a version 6 .dmg.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 21 April 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

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