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New X-Men is G*R*A*T*E , X-Statix is clever but not that involving, the rest are all crap.

right or wrong?

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 10 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Alias is freakishly wonderful. And The Ultimates (the Mark Millar riff on Avengers) is terrific in almost exactly the same way The Authority was (not so into Ultimate X-Men, though).

Black Panther's pretty good too. And I love Promethea, though I'm not sure if it's exactly what you'd call a superhero comic.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 10 April 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Gen13 still going? I liked that.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 10 April 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

DV's sorta wrong, but I'll get to that.

Gen13 is currently being flogged by Chris Claremont & some 9th-generation J. Scott Campbell clone, and I would avoid getting close to that stuff lest ye get some on you.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 April 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I must go to the comic shop, I haven't bought anything in ages!

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 10 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And The Ultimates (the Mark Millar riff on Avengers) is terrific in almost exactly the same way The Authority was (not so into Ultimate X-Men, though).

Mark Millar's The Authority was k-rub, so I'm rather loth to go near anything else he writes.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 10 April 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar's The Authority was pretty good, though I mostly remember the great Frank Quitely art. Mmm, Quitely. It suffered slightly from having a five issue fill-in because Marvel had nicked the pair of them to do Marvel for that time.

I don't think the latest New X-Men story is all that good, (though mmm, Quitely), but that's due to really high standards on the rest of the series. And X-Statix can be quite moving, subject to Milligan's "first, be smart" styling.

Does the Filth count? Does Powers? They're both great.

Black Panther, maybe. I haven't seen the latest issue, and the diversion it's on hasn't been working so far.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 10 April 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Is anybody else reading Alias? I remember seeing a recent sales figure & being shocked at how low it was, esp. since a) its continuity is fairly closely linked to that of the best-selling Daredevil at the moment and b) it's SO GODDAMN CLEVER AND FUN... (the basic concept, for those who haven't read it: former superheroine who apparently was pretty terrible at it becomes a private investigator, tends to look into things on the sleazy edge of the superhero world, drinks too much, has occasional bad sex with other third-string superhero types--at the moment she's dating Ant-Man II.)

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 10 April 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Destroy ALL of them!!

(The fact that I haven't read one for five years might make my position rather suspect...)

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i read an issue of ultimates in a couple of minutes when i was dawdling in forbidden planet the other day. it was pretty mediocre i thought. captain america beat some giant dude, what a surprise

zemko (bob), Thursday, 10 April 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll sound like a complete Bendis fanboy if I say "all the Bendis titles I read are great" (Alias, Ult. Spider-Man, Powers) ... but it's true, dammit. For different reasons. Alias is like ... it's 8pm, the kids have gone to bed, and the Marvel Universe is kicking off its shoes and having a beer. Ultimate Spidey is both my favorite Spidey comic in ages (the JMS Amazing Spider-Man is also very good, though) and my favorite of the Ultimate titles -- I lost interest in Ultimate X-Men rapidly, but I think I'm just tired of the X-characters in any form.

And Powers is just plain neat.

Haven't read Black Panther in ages, because it's always sold out -- I'm hoping this means good things, since it's one of the titles the store I go to was really pushing, one of the times it was on the verge of cancellation. Haven't read Hulk in a few months, but it was pretty decent last time I did.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 10 April 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

What was the sales figure for Alias? On Superhero comics in general nowadays?

rw, Thursday, 10 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Destroy: Elektra. No body can write her properly except Miller*, and he's not going to be going near her any time soon.

Search: Bone -- Thorn did throw those guards around like limp blankets ergo she = superheroine.

*Scott Morse nearly pulled it off in Elektra: Glimpse & Echo, but in the end resorted to lame-o superhero resolution.

Leee (Leee), Thursday, 10 April 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

TEP's post looks very similar to the sort of stuff I've been saying on prior comic threads & what I'd say on this one. Bendis deserves some sort of award (well, another one) for fashioning a enjoyable story involving TWO Spider Women and Speedball.

Millar's MO on the Ultimate books (and maybe in general) is to disrespect the characters while respecting the history - this works fantastic in _The Ultimates_, where he plays up the unappealing characteristics of all the characters & their origins (and, y'know, that Bryan Hitch guy, he can draw), but on _Ultimate X-Men_, it's very very VERY annoying. It's like he writes outlines of stories that take equally from Lee / Kirby and Claremont, and just leaves them as outlines when giving Kubert et. al. the scripts, and then tries to fill the gaps / explain away coincidences / blah blah blah w/ dialogue. I'm waiting for Bendis' run on _Ultimate X-Men_ to start (in 2ish months).

For the record, I'd like to strike Captain America from my Must Read list - I was tooting its horn a while back, but now that John Cassaday's left (go _Planetary_!) and Chuck Austen has taken over as writer, I am dropping that thing like a baaaad habit, even IF Jae Lee is the new artist. John Ney Reiber's scripts were sparse, true, and a bit on the vague & didactic side (and I'm athinkin' there was some backstage chicanery going down w/ Reiber & the editor & the Jemas / Quesada two-headed monster, because I couldn't imagine the Reiber that was soooo good on _Books of Magic_ mailing it in like he did here), but I'll take that stuff over Chuck Austen's straight-up heavy-handed sub-Claremontian script-as-plot-exegesis shenanigans. And Austen's writing, what, 4 series now?

The few pages I've read of Gail Simone's first issue of _Birds of Prey_ look promising. The preview in Wizard of Rucka & Robertson's _Wolverine_ looks pretty damn good, too.

Is there anything not being published by The Big Two involving spandex that's worth a look? (Besides _Powers_?)

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

now that John Cassaday's left (go _Planetary_!)

Is that why there's been no issues forever?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 11 April 2003 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)

but the problem with Alias is that it has the same name as a popular TV series, making people think it's a tie-in. If you don't like the TV prog you don't buy the comic. If you like the TV series you might buy the comic, but then you discover that it isn't a tie-in and so throw it away in disgust and resolve never to buy it again.

maybe I should join the Bendis revolution.

and actually, the current New X-Men storyline kicks arse. First there was fratboys, now there is the prospec of Jean Grey flaying Emma Frost and Cyclops.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 11 April 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Read the X-Statix TPB today, it was good once it got going. At first I was thinking it was some horrible pomo aren't we clever, look "reality superheros" thing, but in the end I liked it. Though, it was disappointing that Mike Allred didn't draw it all, and it ended up having a vastly different style by the last part.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 13 April 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)


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