TS From Hell vs Watchmen

(TS From Hell chapter 10 vs the Veidt Method)

Short(sighted) answer: Watchmen, because it's in color.

I've only heard The Highbury Working, which I remember enjoying, and Angel Passage, which is good stuff building to great at the end: the last section never ever fails to cheer me up. It helps that I like his accent, and obviously you have to take the time to listen: it's not a good choice to work to.

From Hell to be republished, with Eddie Campbell "colorizing" the art.

Is there another writer (or, hell, artist in any medium) with as high a 'completely unnecessary embellishments/adaptations that no one asked for : original work' ratio as Moore?

I make my first $100 million I'm going to throw it all at Terry Gilliam so that he can make a movie of it.

he'd just go over budget on you and leave it unfinished

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How many recolored folios and Damon Lindelof-helmed television adaptations of Coriolanus were released during Shakespeare's life, though?

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Either you failed to understand my question or we're about to come to blows over your suggestion that the existence of a Screamers film is somehow perfunctory.

Is there another writer (or, hell, artist in any medium) with as high a 'completely unnecessary embellishments/adaptations that no one asked for : original work' ratio as Moore?

I'm struggling to think of any that Moore has initiated.

we're about to come to blows

V for Vendetta is kind of it, right?

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no, initiated

Moore didn't want the colour added, DC insisted

(he didn't object AFAIK, but he and Lloyd didn't seek it out)

oh I thought we were talking about original work. original work not really being Moore's forte.

I misread the original comment, thought the "unnecessary embellishments/adaptations" was referring to stuff like Miracleman, Swamp Thing, Watchmen, etc. Moore "reviving" other people's material.

but yeah I think PKD has Moore beat in the "material optioned for shitty adaptations" sweepstakes

Yeah, the crux of Moore's career revolving around reinterpretations of the work of others is a whole other thing (the extent of which was not apparent to me until troublingly late in the game). I was talking solely about things like filmed adaptations made by people who don't seem to have any interest in the source material, or DC's current project of trying to monetize even the teeth and bones of everything he ever did while in their employ (e.g. The Killing Joke: Fully-Edible Edition, printed on a sandwich).

(I expect a cut of the profits when you inevitably poach that idea, DC.)

original work not really being Moore's forte.

Maxwell. Stars My Degradation. Bojeffries. V For Vendetta. Halo Jones. Chrono-Cops. Three-Eyes McGurk. Abelard Snazz. The Reversible Man. Skizz. Warpsmith. Brasso With Rosie. Globetrotting For Agoraphobics. Lust. Letter From Northampton. The Birth Caul. The Mirror Of Love. In Pictopia. Love Doesn't Last Forever. A Small Killing. A Hypothetical Lizard. Shadowplay / Brought To Light. From Hell. I Keep Coming Back. The Bowing Machine. The Moon And Serpent Grand Egyptian Theatre Of Marvels. The Hasty Smear Of My Smile (okay, you could argue this one). Tom Strong. Top Ten. Smax. Promethea. Tesla Strong. Cobweb. Voice Of The Fire. Jerusalem. Come On Down. Outbreaks Of Violets. Meatcake #9. Epic #34. The Worm. Angel Passage. Snakes & Ladders. The Highbury Working. This Is Information. Act Of Faith. Jimmy's End. His Heavy Heart. Unearthing. Dozens and doooooozens of other short stories and songs that I can't remember the titles of except for Me And Dorothy Parker and the Sinister Ducks / Old Gangsters 7".

a lot of that stuff is v minor work

I think the ABC stuff you note (Tom Strong, Top Ten, Smax, Promethea, Tesla, Tomorrow Stories, Greyshirt, etc.) were kind of the ideal iteration of his take on superhero comics, revisionism w out being overly specific w the source material.

also you left out Big Numbers! shocked.

top of my head! and page count or running time doesn't = significance or value of work. (like, The Birth Caul is his best work, and would not be any greater if it took six CDs)

I skipped eg Spirit riff Greyshirt and Fighting American riff, erm, whatever it was called from Tomorrow Stories on purpose. The standalone ABC titles are working very different furrows, none of which are revisionist imo, but all idealist in extremely different directions.

I was talking solely about things like filmed adaptations

in that case, Harper Lee is sitting at a solid 1:1 ratio, vs Moore's approx 1:423 ratio.

I'll give you The Worm, Globetrotting and Hasty Smear as slight.

slight minor. but you mightn't have the other Moore / Campbell collaborations without Globetrotting.

I remember really liking the Birth Caul when it came out, have never re-read it. Certainly it's his most personal work.

re: ABC, idk if I want to get into a semantic argument about the term "revisionism", they all just seem to hark back to specific reference points to varying degrees - Tom Strong being some mix of Superman with idk Doc Savage or something like that; Top 10 a riff on procedural cop shows; Smax is obviously playing with fairytales/fantasy. Promethea is the only one that seems really without precedent (and, oddly, I would say it's also the weakest. It's structural "let's learn about esoterica!" conceit gets p tiresome)

Hasty Smear is totally minor but also hilarious.

The Birth Caul is 1,000,000x better on CD than the adaptation. (Snakes & Ladders was a better adaptation of a lesser piece.)

ah FUCK I overpasted and lost twenty minutes of research and supporting detail but:

Ayn Rand is at 5:3 and counting, if we have faith in the Watchmen adaptor

Tolkien is at 30 films and plays : 4 novels-he-actually-wrote, and over a hundred episodes of radio : 3 of those novels. Published a bunch of poems though.

Emily Bronte is at 38:1, for one novel ever.

Anna Sewell is at 118:1, for one novel ever.

I've never even heard of these people. What comics did they do?

If it gets new readers to the book, I don't see any problem with coloring 'From Hell' as long as it's well done. It is going to take someone really good to make it work with a style that works. The b&w version will still be out there, it's not going away.

a couple of pages here...

Eddie Campbell explains why he's coloring From Hell for the first time

seems kinda pointless but if he thinks it will make him a bit of $$$ then eh whatever

I've never even heard of these people. What comics did they do?

Blackagar Beautagon.

Shadowplay / Brought To Light. - forgot to note while I was thinking that this is the only "unnecessary embellishment/adaptation" by Moore himself I can think of, although! that I haven't read the book version of Unearthing or listened to the Mike Patton soundtrack CD, but that he was involved enough that they probably count.

you can also add Amazing Weird Penises to the "minor but hilarious" pile, as much as I hate to discount any of his cartooning.

It is going to take someone really good to make it work with a style that works.

if only WmC had given any hint of who might do it

there are 30 films based on tolkein's works? really?

if only I had typed any other words in that sentence