are you a flâneur?

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are you an idle (wo)man-about-town sometimes?
share some of your rural/urban digressions

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

better yet, let's hear some rural/urban transgressions.

slutsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i am.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i am a couch flaneur

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Can girls be flaneurs?

rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no idea what it means but I'm a lazy git, so probably.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

do i have to go back to dressing in all black?

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Me to thread.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I shop a flaneur. On saturday I boought mustard with tarragon, mustard with green peppercorns and onion marmalade.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

DAMMIT, Mike. I wanted to call you! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

girls can be flâneuses all right :-)

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i like to walk around the city sometimes, going nowhere in particular. it's a real treat. now the weather is clement i think i'll do just that right now. I don't know if it will turn into a philosophical promenade or meditation in movement, whatever.
it stopped raining.
i think it's gonna be a nice sensual experience.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I was enjoying the rain today--it was warm and very pleasant to walk up the hill from Old Montreal.

slutsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i aspire to be one

robin (robin), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

(is that grammatically correct?
it looks wrong..)

robin (robin), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

...
i came back around 9:30.
the air was just as I expected; fresh humid and almost full of nutrients or something.
maybe because the liberals won i decided to err on the side of westmount. i followed st-catherine til it got crossed by rené-lévêsque/dorchester. in here we name our streets but only to a certain point to accomodate everybody. as an anarchist all this doesn't really concerns me you see. i wanted to turn left but instead I arbitrairly decided to walk in the same direction as a nice looking artsy couple, continued a bit more and when i was hitting red lights i started to turn either left or right. the rain started again; for some reason at the moment it hit my head i briefly stopped thinking, I had a big grin on my face and my happyness went at it's highest point. the rain stopped rapidly and i was still dry. i noticed it had been a while since I had seen really big houses. the streets were empty and i was singing a bit while heading back home. I saw a little commercial empty street that I liked last summer but this time around the content displayed in the windows was uninteresting. on my way home i crossed 3 teenage school girls in uniform (it was like 8:30pm). it started to rain slightly more heavily so I waited it out in a random building: across the street there was a huge sculpture of Atlas in full earth holding mode. a scumbag sold something to a hobo. i went to a dépanneur to get myself some black halls. then i went to get myself vegies for the next 5 days for 3.86$
i also crossed many faces, many eyes and had other impressions but that's enough already

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Where do you live Séb?

slutsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

well you see i would like to avoid tactical nukes but ... very near concordia u.
u?

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Up in the Mile-End.

You're very right about the nice warm rain tonight, it really made me happy.

slutsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't being idle kinda part of being a regular on this board? A prerequisite, like?

Yes, I am a lazy git. But no more so than most people I know. And some of those people have far better jobs than I do. What am I doing wrong?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

this dude rules

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I aspire to be one too. I am going for a flan tomorrow, in fact. In the City.

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Flâner r0XoR to the maX0r. In a quietly enjoyable way. Am planning on flânning a lot in Paris in a couple of weeks' time on holiday. V tradtionel innit.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I like to wander aimlessly around town or in the fileds, it's like my life, basically okay but woefully incomplete. I'd rather get to two-thirds than one.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I was a fabulous flâneur in Torino all the way from my flat in Crocetta to the Basilica Superga or to the Castello Montcalieri. I miss living in a city which stops so abruptly along one edge.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 09:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I was flaneuring around Greenwich in the early evening sun yesterday, and it was marvellous. I then broke with tradition and went into a pub on my own, sat at the bar and spent a very enjoyable evening talking to some girls who work at a recording studio, while admiring the lights at Canary Wharf over the river. It was ace, and I should really do it more often.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I am a habitual flaneur. I was even more so before I was "attached", as I was always a bit of a loner (aaawwww!). I spent the better part of a year travelling around Europe and walking aimlessly in strange cities. I walk everywhere. My votes for best Euro-flanning to to Lisbon, Helsinki, Paris, Naples, Tallinn, and Budapest, anywhere you can see some crazy stuff that gives your inner comforts a jolt. My best experiences have still been in London late at night though. I've seen yo-yo selling midgets, illicit office sex, a guy with his head split open, roving gypsy musicians, teenage gang wars...London's great.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

you shop at Flaneur on Farringdon road = you have far more money than sense. Yes the food looks lovely but it's the most over-priced food place I've ever seen, everything in there can be had for less elsewhere in London.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Not so, for some things, certain mustards, verveine tea, tisane. It is the cheapest, I'll admit that most stuff is very expensive but there's a few things worth going in for. It does have some fairly unique and expensive cheeses, which are good for treating oneself once in a blue moon.

And besides its round the corner from my flat and if the italian shops are closed it can be a toss up between KFC and Flaneur.

Suzy and i got taken to eat their once and it is gorgeous.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i wanted to name my blog that way but alas it was already taken. i chose a word kristeva invented.

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Oooh! This shop has vervain tea? I will have to investigate. I got mildly addicted to the stuff when holidaying on the old Côte d'Azur a couple of years ago. Lovely.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

its like 85 a box there which I think is a good deal.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
I took a walk to nowhere of about 3 hours today that accidentally led me to a place I worked at some years ago. The only lasting thing this job got me was a "wrapping robot" move I added to my dance répertoir and the stress to upgrade my job and quality of life short of doing something 100% rewarding on a personal level, the upgrade ultimately wasn't for me either but got me enough ressources so I could be a flâneur in a "attention dangers travail" hiatus who happened to have that 3h walk in the middle of the day that got me here today. When I first moved here the geography of the city wasn't very clear to me because I think the crowds intimidated me away from that kind of operation.
I got to try my grado headphones for a long period, just grabbed one of the numbered cd-r piled on the poker table without checking what was on it: the first pieces were from eliane radigue, I resisted the envy to do a funny walk to the syncopic beat, then found myself walking in a fancy shopping center now listening to the solemn sounds of nitsch's orgien mysterien theater. Heading to a market, for the richs and for the poors the light made everything nicely dirty grey and enhanced the rot that spring uncovered but my attention was mostly on music, except once I got there for that ridiculously strong smell of cold meat all along the corridor that lead me to a patisserie where as I paid a petit pain au chocolat ya ya ya ya the orgies ended and made place to... the sounds of birds of paradise? wtf was I thinking? nice! So I got to the first floor of the market where they are selling vegetables and as I opened the doors it was like one of these things once again: the hot humid air perfumed with fresh fruits and flowers was a perfect match for the birds of paradise! It was too much so I had to sacrifice to dyonisos: got a bottle of hydromel then headed home.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

sébastien, you're alright.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just thinking 'I can't be bothered reading all that but maybe sebastien's okay, after all.'

RJG (RJG), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I like him too, but I wish he would use more paragraph breaks.

Actually, I have just tried to insert paragraphs in my head but it's still really hard to read.

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i like Sébastien's style and way of thinking too ... this is now the Sébastien Appreciation Thread!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 12 March 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"I look like a farmer, but, I'm a lover."
"I look like a flaneur, but, I'm a farmer."

Amity (Amity), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

ile is totally emo tonight.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"tonight"

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

dude don't ruin it!

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still hurting, dont worry

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

since i live in the suburbs, i like to drive around slowly at night. on moonlit nights, i try to find empty stretches of freeway to zoom down. when i'm feeling brave i race around abandoned areas with the headlights off (who am i kidding, for about ten seconds maybe).

the best is when you find a new road that wasn't there some months ago. sometimes they haven't even really laid out the subdivision, just the roads. then you can go zooming about all aimlessly in these not-yet-neighborhoods, or along the main artery for a business park that isn't there yet.

if i was in a city, though, i'd probably just park myself on some steps and watch.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 12 March 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't believe I've not known this word 'til now...think I might call a couple of friends and tell them that they're flaneurs later...(think I might also get "couch flaneur" tatooed in gothic script across my lower back)

winterland, Friday, 12 March 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

when it warms up a little more (in like a month) i wanna tool around on my bike more. foot flaneuring is sort of pointless in most american cities. block after block after block zzzz

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 12 March 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Reciting flaneur adventures is a bit like narrating your dreams or holidays or amorous adventures. It's boring for everyone else because the essence of the experience is the unfamiliarity, the sense of things happening in real time, the texture of things, and the glimpses of unlived imaginary lives and unsuspected parallel worlds afforded.

Monday, Stockholm. Me and a Japanese girl took the first bus and ended up at the docks. Wandered around some sky walks, a big business hotel, looked at a closed art centre called Magazin 6, skirted an Indian warehouse. Vast liners at the quay, pine trees, gritty ice underfoot, a grey sky. The blasted rock of the 'tunnel train' tunnels, the Valhalla feel of the subway stations. The department store where Anna Lindt was murdered. Snapping photos of escalators and elevators to post to ILX. Elevator in Swedish is 'hiss'. Up is 'hit' and down is 'ned'. So elevators say 'HISS HIT NED' and escalators say HIT and NED.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 12 March 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, what did you do to the Swedes?

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 12 March 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

That's so unfair. I have a 3-letter name, why doesn't it mean something that enables me to have enormous neon signs talking to me?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

You really don't want to know what 'liz' means in Laotian.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

You're probably right.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 12 March 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, what did you do to the Swedes?

!!!

Clearly I didn't appreciate Abba enough as a child and now the country wants me mocked eternally. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

someone MUST photoshop ned into that picture, just below the arrows pointing towards "NED"!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus, to me the essence of the experience of my last post wasn't much what you said than an occasion to talk about two encounters I had with hazard, the first one made me think about where I am in my life right now and the other one was just a sensibility thing. Both encounters were meaningful to me, I think that's what made it interesting. I noticed they were narratable and worth posting here, the feedback I had makes me think I was right to do so.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 12 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://wendyk.org/hitned.jpg

Ned is found in Stockholm.

lyra (lyra), Sunday, 14 March 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't worry about it Sebastian, if Momus had had ths idea before you he'd've declared it revolutionary instead of boring

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 14 March 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

momus is alright too.

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 14 March 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I look very evanescent.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i heart mr mountain goat

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, evanescent Ned = hard light layer overlay to hide my lack of "removing picture backgrounds evenly" skillz

lyra (lyra), Sunday, 14 March 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i've taken to walking down various side roads that i've never been down before/haven't been down in ages in the area i live in,rather than my usual walks along the seafront or whatever,its a good laugh...

not quite the idealised flaneur perhaps,but enjoyable nonetheless...

among the discoveries
-a road within 200 metres of my house that i've never been up before,with all these really weird completely cubic houses with really tiny windows around the side and none on the front wall

-an internet cafe in what i would have presumed was a house which was completely full of chinese people at 3 in the morning on christmas day (didn't see anyone else at all for about an hour)

-an entire area i didn't know existed between two roads i use regularly

-a near euphoric early morning down by the pier near my house,while listening to selected ambient works two by aphex twin...the light gave the world that weird clarity it tends to have the morning after taking acid,which rarely occurs naturally (the only other time i remember it was one time in venice on holidays with my parents,just as i was thinking about the similarity to the morning after acid my dad commented on how the day had a strange clarity he hadn't seen in years,which was kind of weird)

amsterdam is an incredible city to wander around,as is venice...
was only in london once but id like to go back and buzz around,also the only time i was in new york i walked around most of manhattan's areas one day,which i really enjoyed,and am going back to do again for a week in the next few months...

robin (robin), Sunday, 14 March 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

I revive this thread in my capacity as captain of joie-de-vivre, bon vivant extraordinaire, and shamer at large of the l'homme moyenne sensuel. Besides, I like it.

Aimless, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 01:41 (seventeen years ago)

I was thinking today how I used to be a flaneur and how I miss it, and that it's probably all because of the damn internet. Hanging around cafes is probably healthier than what I'm doing right now.

B'wana Beast, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 03:02 (seventeen years ago)

Yes.

Eazy, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 04:36 (seventeen years ago)

I am one (presently retired).

The essence of flâneurism, in my view, is randomness and consequent surprise. Hence the secret key to prolonged and effective flâneuring is extensive, inexpensive public transport. Without it:
i) the early stages of a day's flâneuring become unfulfilling as one's immediate surroundings inevitably become familiar and mundane;
ii) later stages become goal-orientated i.e. one's path is determined by the direction of home; and
iii) the middle parts labour under the constant dilemma of whether to strike further from home or not, and the choices cease to be random.

The capacity to maintain novelty from start-point to arbitrary end-point not only makes the flâneuring fulfilling at beginning to end, it liberates all choices in between from any import. Choices between random elements, all of which (from the temporal perspective of the chooser) are of unknown and hence equal value, cease to be weighty choices at all, liberating the flâneur to think 'woah, check that crazy house with the flags all over it! I wonder who lives there?!'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 07:17 (seventeen years ago)

Hmmm, If I'm in the right state of mind, properly sensitized, immediate surroundings become a microcosm and I don't have to move on, though I usually do. But walking is not too slow. Also, there are places with such a density of stimulation that you never want for a new tangent. Say, NYC. If your rambles have dull sections you might consider a bicycle. Proper public transport helps, to be sure, but I don't think it has to be necessary.

B'wana Beast, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 08:30 (seventeen years ago)

This is such a lovely thread.

I took a different walk home today, got off the tram many stops early and wandered down the local streets of my suburb... I was suprised to notice all these awesome homes I'd never really seen or paid attention to passing by on busses and such.

Whenever I walk around the local area - especially in the evening as the sun is setting - I love the atmosphere of warmly-lit homes, cooking and comfort. I always think of the line "Past smells of different dinners" from the Larkin poem "Ambulances" (even if that poem itself doesn't exactly have an air of casual flaneur about it, heh).

Its very much a voyueuristic thing, wondering what other peoples lives are like tucked away in their homes. I get great comfort from it.

Trayce, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 08:42 (seventeen years ago)

eleven years pass...

walked semi-aimlessly around my city in the early-spring sun this weekend. "semi" because I had slight goals - to reach the Fraser river yesterday, to cross a certain bridge on Saturday etc. - the wee pedometer app on my phone says I walked 47km. I'm a big walker generally and hoping to hike a decent amount this year so this was good conditioning but it was also just extremely pleasant and very good for my mental health

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Monday, 9 March 2020 16:57 (five years ago)

Good job Jim! What happened on your walk?

ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 9 March 2020 18:36 (five years ago)

nothing exceptionally interesting but some very pleasant vistas and places that weren't too far from where I live that I had never seen before.

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Monday, 9 March 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

can't beat a bit of a flâne

fetter, Monday, 9 March 2020 19:42 (five years ago)

https://mgl.skyrock.net/big.113434530.jpg?50955236

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 9 March 2020 19:44 (five years ago)

A Quebec staple. Such a thing would be unthinkable in the land of Baudelaire, obv.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 9 March 2020 19:44 (five years ago)

i am a couch flaneur
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 15 April 2003 23:14 (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^^remains true

mark s, Monday, 9 March 2020 19:46 (five years ago)

You’re really doing flaneuring wrong if you walk 47km. Tip o’ the hat to you though!

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 March 2020 20:05 (five years ago)


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