Wrestling's John Cena: flow or no?

i heard cena's rap on last week's sd! and i thought 'you know, i'd totally buy a single by him.' there is something nicely growly about his voice

Cena hasn't been booked very strongly, from what I can tell. His match a couple weeks ago against Eddie Guerrero had him receive a nonstop assbeating from Eddie until Cena hit the Death Valley Driver out of nowhere (a move that, vis a vis Cena, hasn't quite been established as an F5/Rock Bottom/Stunner-type "no matter what, you hit it and it's over" maneuver) and won. He also hasn't met his full in-ring potential (though I've heard he's damn near Sting-level good), and he probably needs a while longer to develop the actual wrestling persona to match his character persona. If he faces Lesnar at Backlash I don't really expect much of anything of interest.

But yeah, on the mic he's definitely classic. And wrestling's easier to cover than a dearth of charisma.

For the record - I stopped watching wrestling in 1999 for two years because of the prevalent misogyny which I found troubling in ECW and WWF/E. The reason I mention this is 1) I still find men hitting women on the show VERY troubling indeed and wish the WWE would cut it out and 2) Martin Skidmore recently sent me an email telling me he'd contribute to sensible threads of mine (such as the WWE one) but not anything that is misogynistic. Now, I personally wouldn't say I've posted one misogynistic thread - I only hate women when they're not with me! - but I find this attitude bizarre when the constant stream of very real misogyny that is in WWE is nothing short of shocking. And it's sexist too (unlike Martin I see a difference between sexism and misogyny) - Torrie Wilson being used as an example of a success simply coz she gets her togs off for Playboy surely sends the wrong sort of message to young female viewers?

Or rather it's a sure way of nulling any potential female viewers. It more likely sends a harmful messages to the little boys brought to the live shows by their ignorant parents.

ROW-DEH!

Secondly, Cena... hmmm. He's not the best worker ever, but then again, neither was The Rock. However... I'm not too convinced by his ring psychology. At least Orton seems to have picked up from the veterans. Cena can't really tell a story in the ring. Even so, he's got the size, the look, and the marketable gimmick. Vince is no doubt lining up the perfect opportunity to turn him into the promotions #1 face. Because, on top, he would shift merchandise. Whether he'd do shit to PPV buyrates... that's a push.

still

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Of course, the Vader of WWF in the late 90s was similar to the modern day Big Show, a big man letting his body go whilst simoultaneously having any heat that they would get simply by "OMG HE'S HUGE!!!" being killed off by a booking committee that didn't know that it was doing. I mean, you just have to look at Bam Bam Bigelow for an example of a big guy who never got booked right.

You should really get to see a dentist right away, then.

So John Cena is the first wrestler since Randy Savage to hold a WWF/WWE main event belt for 365 days. I can't help but think that ILx bigging him up four years ago was instrumental in this. Yet another blow for MIA's self-esteem: we could break Cena, but not her.

Also Cena is the best main event WWE worker since Hollywood Rock. Just a heads-up.

We will not see Hollywood Rock's like again.

Actually, Jimmy Jacobs managing Necro Butcher in ROH may actually be the new best thing in wrestling ever.

I only hate women when they're not with me!

I just clotheslined myself with an actual clothesline halfway through reading this thread.

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For the record - I stopped watching wrestling in 1999 for two years because of the prevalent misogyny which I found troubling in ECW and WWF/E. The reason I mention this is 1) I still find men hitting women on the show VERY troubling indeed and wish the WWE would cut it out and 2) Martin Skidmore recently sent me an email telling me he'd contribute to sensible threads of mine (such as the WWE one) but not anything that is misogynistic. Now, I personally wouldn't say I've posted one misogynistic thread - I only hate women when they're..."

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I still can't feel sorry for the McCanns, though, even if they had nothing to do with Maddy's disappearance, because they've milked the media for all it's worth, and although the milk's now turned sour, they still have to drink it.

I don't think ANYBODY emerges with any credit whatsoever, be they police, family, media, or man on the street. Credit's quite hard to come by in child abduction cases, mind.

I'll repeat again that this has become big news BECAUSE it's been so widely reported, not the other way around, and so I do comment upon it, but I comment upon its newsworthiness and its treatment in broadcast, not-"

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Cena needs surgery, out 6-8 months

by Dave Meltzer

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John Cena was diagnosed today with a complete tear of the right pectoral muscle by Dr. James Andrews and will be undergoing surgery today.

He is expected to be out of action six to eight months. The injury took place when Cena gave Mr. Kennedy a hip toss in last night's Raw main event from Cleveland.

Because of the surgery, Cena's championship reign, the longest in company history since Hulk Hogan's title reign from 1984-88, has ended.

The company will now decide on who Randy Orton will face on Sunday's PPV for the championship. HHH would be the most likely opponent, but they just shot an angle for HHH vs. Umaga last night.

Not steroid related. Not a steroid related injury AT ALL.

They're so fucked right now, this _has_ to be the shoe that needed to drop for WWE to finally go back to 1995.

lol at message board douches thinking that Jericho's return will enable him to be the new torch carrier. Being as great as Jericho's first title reign was.

He's baaaaaack. Just won the Rumble as surprise #30.