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As I don't get HBO, I can't even stumble across it accidentally, but who here in the States feels from even just the ads for Band of Brothers that this will be prime sap that finally nails the coffin down on the baby-boomers-exhibit-embarassing-'we are so not as cool as you were! forgive us!'-hoohah-for-veterans phenomenon?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It has Tom Hanks David Schwimmer and Steven Speilberg. Is there anyway this movei could be good.

anthony, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It could be good if there were a Brandon Lee-style blanks vs. bullets accident and Schwimmer and Spielberg's deaths were immortalized on film.

But failing that, no, not really.

Nitsuh, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have no dount that this will be another load of the-US-won-WW2- single-handedly-whilst-being-thoroughly-modern-men-with-no-unsavoury- prejudices bullshit.

DG, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, I thought this meant "describe your". I've never heard of this movie.

maria, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, if you want to do that too, Maria, go for it. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
wow, this is our only Band of Brothers thread?

it's been on History Channel in exhausting marathon runs, and as far as i can tell, unedited apart from the s--ts and the occasional f--k.

anyway, i like it! first, i really like the attention paid to representing logistics and tactics, and by that i mean staging the firefights in a way that dramatizes the momentary crucial importance of a hedge or a tree or dead cow or broken window, keeping one's head down, moving quickly, keeping quiet, all that. too many movies (gladiator comes to mind) call a bunch of slo mo and some shaky camera work "aestheticized violence" as a cover for not really showing (or knowing) what the hell is going on. but one of the fawning "lessons" of BoB is Having Your Shit Together, and the combat set pieces really do, I think.

ok, the score is horrible (michael kamen). and yes, it is the piece de resistance of that whole greatest generation spielberg boomer reverse oedipal fellatiathon. and steven ambrose was a plagiarist, and kind of an asshole, i hear. but so what! however truncated a history is that priviledges and sanctifies this small group of men, i mean fuck! it's hard to not be impressed by the combination of luck and pluck that it took to get thru. Ned (singling u out as pricipal hata on thread) i wonder if you've read Sam Fuller's autobio and if you would be similarly dismissive of it?

there is some egregious stunt casting ie jimmy fallon as a truck driver coming out of the ardennes.

at this point i'm willing to say it's better than the Thin Red Line, insofar as it has the same thematic core: group of men upon whom we spend small bits of individual attention apiece attain some kind of "group soul" via their experience -- yeah it's def. more middlebrow, but BoB doesn't bother making this group soul that of a Lyric Poet.

also, Ron Livingston.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It's everything that was good about Saving Private Ryan with far less of the Spielberg schmaltz.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The very last set of interviews, where you hear from some of the real-life counterparts to main characters and one vet starts quoting the St. Crispin's Day speech makes it all worthwhile even if the first eight hours were terrible (which they aren't)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

see that's the kind of meedlebrow boy-ish schmaltz that i'm really wary of, but since it's in an interview, what can one say? let the old cuss say his shakespeare (and pass over the impertinent question of how much these guys have participated in their own deification over the years) (but shit, why not? regular joes save the world etc). plus all the interviews choke me up something crazy.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It could be good if there were a Brandon Lee-style blanks vs. bullets accident and Schwimmer and Spielberg's deaths were immortalized on film.

But failing that, no, not really.

-- Nitsuh (nt...) (webmail), September 7th, 2001 7:00 PM. (link)

nitsuh IS alex in nyc total shocka!!!!!!!!!!!

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

geoff i really liked your analysis btw

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

thx amst!

it will make nabiscohalex happy to note that schwimmer's character is a spineless lieutenant initially in charge of easy co. during training. all the officers under him sign resignation letters, resolute (RESOLUTE I TELL YOU) to not go into the shit under him. they're all busted back to privates, but the general knows their deal, and Ross is sent to some other training camp and never sees war. later he turns up as a big party pooper when 2 of the men gank a motorcycle and go joyriding in england. he's the closest thing the series has to a recurring villain. besides nazis.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

And he has to salute the trainee he feuded with. Recurring bully/villain who gets his comeuppance.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

really there are some great (if obv) moments in this! the handsome redhead altar-boy officer spacing out on the metro, thinking of the boys he's gunned down, alky sophisticate ron livingston getting into the eagle's nest wine cellar in austria. men checking the wounded's cocks first if they'd been hit below the belt, donnie wahlberg in general

the onion headline from 1946 is coming to mind: LET US NOW FORGET OUR WARTIME HOMOSEXUAL EXPERIENCES.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man, one day i have to tell you abt my co-teacher who told our class of 13 year olds that WWII was a big step forward for gay liberation

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 16 September 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

you have to tell us this now!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 September 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The Mattachine Society, m'friend.

i wonder if you've read Sam Fuller's autobio and if you would be similarly dismissive of it?

I wouldn't mind reading that at all!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Ron Livingston is great

milo z, Monday, 8 October 2007 04:53 (eighteen years ago)

I thought this thread was going to be about the Kings of Leon.

Laurel, Monday, 8 October 2007 04:54 (eighteen years ago)

So did I!

President Evil, Monday, 8 October 2007 09:18 (eighteen years ago)

i don't get why the boomers getting a conscience is a bad thing :/

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 8 October 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

I thought it was going to be about Darjeeling Limited

Hurting 2, Monday, 8 October 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

this thing rules

and as a fan of actors it's cool to see dudes from it popping up here and there

gff, Monday, 8 October 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

i love love love band of brothers.

s1ocki, Monday, 8 October 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

was ILX breastfed on Spielberg hate?

Dr Morbius, Monday, 8 October 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Better that than sucking down Spielberg's brand of formula.

Aimless, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

I can see THIS is going to go somewhere good.

Laurel, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

[cocks a snook for good measure]

Aimless, Monday, 8 October 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

I thought this was going to be the thread where Ned renounced his one-time Oasis worship.

jaymc, Monday, 8 October 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

Has amateurist told us the story about his teacher and WW2 as key moment of gay liberation?

ogmor, Monday, 8 October 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

I thought this was going to be the thread where Ned renounced his one-time Oasis worship.

Nah, I just let that slide away. *hides*

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 October 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

this will be prime sap that finally nails the coffin down on the baby-boomers-exhibit-embarassing-'we are so not as cool as you were! forgive us!'

when do we get to do this for the boomers

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

who's going to search for the Winters/Nixon slash?

milo z, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

find & replace

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.bostonsucks.net/wp-content/050407-1532-bostonbeing1.jpg

omar little, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

Wild Bill, Buck and Bull pull a train.

milo z, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

lolol xpost

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

gk darby: saving private ryan's penis

Heave Ho, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

hey this is so great!!! this is like really amazingly terrific this series!!!!

max, Monday, 8 November 2010 00:57 (fourteen years ago)

i mean jesus!!! sometimes its as good as the thin red line!!!

max, Monday, 8 November 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago)

the battle scenes are so gripping--and they look so well planned and orchestrated, like you have some sense of whats going on (though not a great one obviously) vs. just sort of... thrown together. and the acting is across the board great. whoever the dialect coach is did an amazing job--half of the actors are british and youd swear theyd never left the states in their lives.

i sort of wish theyd save the interviews for a separate piece instead of having them before every episode. and the title credits are really long and the irritating score undermines all the good stuff. but mostly... yeah. great.

max, Monday, 8 November 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I never get tired of watching it. The Bastogne (?) episode in the forest is my favorite... All the exploding dirt & snow, just relentless shelling, it really puts you right in there

That is the stench of tyranny (VegemiteGrrrl), Monday, 8 November 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

I love this series SO much. SO much, I swear I think I watch it at least once or twice a year.

Dunno if there's a thread for it but I will now rep for The Pacific. I gave up on it the first time around bc it felt so draggy at the start. But once the Peleliu storyline starts up, goddamn there is some seriously devastating stuff tucked away in that series. (Also the shoreleave episode was shot on location in Melbourne, including at the Railway Hotel in South Melbourne yay)

I am fail though, I forgot to rewatch it yesterday.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)

I thought this thread was going to be about the Kings of Leon.

― Laurel, Monday, October 8, 2007 12:54 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

nine years pass...

(i really hate this thread title, curse you Raggett)

HBO has released a 20th anniversary podcast for the Band of Brothers series
First 2 eps went up today & they are vv good
hosted by Rog Bennett (Men in Blazers)
prologue - w Tom Hanks
curahee ep 1 - Ron Livingston

lots of great tidbits that i hadnt heard:

Schwimmer’s character Sobel irl tried to commit suicide after the war, and his son showed up at an Easy Company reunion demanding to know why they treated his Dad like that (!)

Livingston became good friends with irl Mrs Nix. He said when she first met him she made him order a cocktail, he thinks bc she wanted to see how he handled his liquor lol

Hanks said the real Buck Compston told Neal McDonough that he had had a nervous breakdown at Bastogne - until then it wasn’t part of the narrative. Ambrose had included it in the original draft of the book but to a man, none of the surviving members of Easy Company would let Ambrose keep it in, they felt that strongly about it. Buck was the one who said to McDonough he was ok with it being in the movie.

HIGHLY recommended listen if you are a fan of the series (Five out of Five Lugers)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:23 (four years ago)

link here https://www.hbo.com/band-of-brothers/podcast

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:24 (four years ago)

Band of Bruvs Innit

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:46 (four years ago)

Three miles up three miles down

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 04:47 (four years ago)


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