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I'm just dusting off and finishing the script to a planned project of mine. Okay, I admit - nothing will come of it. Probably. But I'm giving it a bash anyway and need to have some feedback as in what you think might work from this idea, if you'd be interested in it, if you find the idea funny/ unfunny etc

So yup I'm swallowing humble pie and asking you lovely ILXors to go to www.sleazydans.co.uk and check out a barmy bizarre idea that came to me one drunken night whilst at uni chatting about weird movie ideas with an old friend of mine who looked like Jesus Christ (that's him on the website). I came up with a born again Christian using a strip joint to attract sinners to God.

Told you it was mad. But feedback appreciated - and if it's feedback of the 'you suck, it's shit' kind then please give a reason.

Ta in advance.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Web site is done by a good buddy of mine by the way, we've just not updated it in over a year. Which might be stupid I guess.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Feedback: you suck, it's shit.

Reason: you are Calum.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Feedback: you suck, it's shit.

Reason: you are Calum.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Feedback: you suck, it's shit.

Reason: you are Calum.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Feedback: you suck, it's shit.

Reason: you are Calum.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Feedback: you suck, it's shit.

Reason: you are Calum.

― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay! Thanks guys... that really puts all the positive feedback that we've had on this for two years straight now.

It in fact sucks!
Not that James Blount, for instance, can offer us anything creative because he just sits around on his fat arse slagging me off all day.

The others I could care less about, but I've warned you Blount. You are a complete moron with no life who badly needs to be strangled.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

It needs more twists (write yourself into the script like in Adaptation)

― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Explain further please. As I said, the script is now done but I want to keep working on new takes on it, try and get as much input as possible.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate it.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

needs more titties.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is the reductio ad absurdum of the kettle/pot scenario.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaorn, why do you hate it?

The idea is not to exploit the strip club angle, titties aren't really needed.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds like something Michael Landon would've starred in.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

why are you making a movie if you don't want to be exploitative?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

http://members.aol.com/cadetteel/mikevf.jpg

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Also there should be a Mick Hucknall cameo.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Calum Rxxxxx Wxxxxxx - you WARNED me? I'm not a eight year old girl Calum - you don't pose a threat to me.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I never said I didn't want to exploit something - it's a satire on Born Again Christians and the sexual repression of religion more than anything else. I just didn't feel the urge to exploit nudity in the film over the satire.

I'm not making a movie away. I'm still floating the idea around, and have priced up one only one sequence. I only finished the final thing recently and have no idea if anything will ever come of this, it's just an idea I like and the comedy it allows I (and others involved) like as well. Which is why I asked for feedback...

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaorn, why do you hate it?

Because you are Caulm.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

*zing*

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

The idea sounds sort of weak to me -- like, what, a "quirky" Guy Ritchie rewrites Coyote Ugly? -- but I suppose it could be well-written. On one hand it seems like the particular sort of "dumb" that plenty of people like; on the other, it wraps itself up in all of this sleazy-and-wholesome is-it-a-paradox stuff that will fall completely flat if it's not handled well on a really non-"dumb" level. It's not like we can offer much feedback on this without actually seeing more content -- e.g., your handling of the time period -- and getting a sense of how you'd go about the actual themes. Since you're, you know, Calum, it's easy to imagine that your approach to such things would fall into a category most of us reading here would find anything from irritating to clod-stupid to reprehensible. But I'm sure many of us would love to get a look at some of the finished script.

Anyway, best of luck.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)
















― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

James - please offer me something! I just need to see that you produce something other than piss and shit. Are you creative? Do you write? Do you do anything?

I'd also ask the moderator to remove the swans otherwise I'm just going to give up on serious threads and go back to the shit. I'm sorry, but if this cunt Blount - who I now have an ambition to meet in the flesh - is going to keep acting like a retard then that's the way it is.

I'm unlikely to post the script here considering the reaction I've got from some arseholes, but for the record - the script is set in modern times. I felt the web site would work better if it was portrayed in a certain period and that's what we worked at. Oddly enough, the web site has fooled a ton of people who actually did think it was real including Christians!

Anyway, I fully understand (being a huge movie buff) how fringe, comedic ideas can lapse into tastelessness - and I guess my current script does in places. I've tried to create a really funny set piece every five pages, and tried to keep the satire very obvious, but with social comments being included in both subtle and very 'in your face' way. I've also introduced the script with some background on the character - his upbringing, the reason he is how he is etc etc

The web site is an introduction to the main idea.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Have you read The Peacock Manifesto, Calum?

― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

'Social commentary' from Calum = the catalyst for my heartiest laugh this week.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Shouting on moderator before I start posting umpteen threads on the topic of ol' Jamesy boy...

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Not read it, sounds interesting.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Calum a good way to endear people to you would be to NOT have tantrums when things don't go your way.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

(Calum there's no reason that the mods should remove lots of swans from a thread)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm, and if I start hijacking Blount's threads with OBSCENE pictures????

I think I have me an idea...


It's the choice of ILX. I'm asking nicely at least...

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)



























































































― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Swans are just obscene, Calum, not OBSCENE.

― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

fire away Calum Rxxxxx Wxxxxxx - we're no girl scout troop, you pose no threat to us.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

No Calum, it's YOUR choice. ILX shouldn't have to defer to your tantrums for fear of whatever obscenities you wave over its collective head.

There's an elementary difference between porn and glowing wiremesh swans. If you cannot see this, then I weep for both you and the fates of all the wiremesh glowing swans in your immediate vicinity.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

[name] sends people child porn
[name] sends people child porn

My account is harrassed by [name] who sends people child porn
[name] is currently being researched by Operation OAR.
Be warned [name] is into child porn
He sent me an email with child porn
[name] is a pervert and should be shot in the nuts
His obsessions are unhealthy
[name] child porn
[name] child porn

[this was posted under james' name and his e-mail address but from calum's IP. i've edited it down to prevent googleability, but i'm not letting calum off the hook by deleting it outright. - mark p]

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

my obsessions are unhealthy!

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

James Blount is the centerfielder for the Oakland Athletics
James Blount is the centerfielder for the Oakland Athletics
James Blount is the centerfielder for the Oakland Athletics
James Blount really knows how to fry an egg
James Blount is the fifth Monkee
James Blount has an OPS of .837
James Blount wakes up with a pile of twenty dollars bills at his feet every morning
James Blount prefers Manhattan to New England Clam Chowder

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

James Blount wakes up with a pile of twenty dollars bills at his feet every morning

Bastard. Share.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

never - all for me!













― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

For christ's sake Calum I already warned you about doing that on ILM. Here you've been even less provoked than over on that thread. This is no way to make friends, or get useful input for that matter.

(ps i think its a terrible idea for a whole movie, but a decent gag for a one-off in the course of a novel about something else, like a vonnegut precis on a kilgore trout novel or sumthin')

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Fine then I'll go on record and say that James Blount HAS been posting obscene pictures to me at my hotmail account. If googled I hope someone holds him responsible for the FILTH I've been recieving.

And you can believe THAT. Blount you are an Oakee twat.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I told you what I want. When it's done you have a heareby honest promise from me that I will stop posting anything of a dubious or stupid nature.

Surely too good to resist?

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. It can be a good idea for a whole film, I think, if enough set pieces and background are put into the script. Which was my intention.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And all I wanted was some useful input!

This is discrimination!

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

*chokes on irony, dies*

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.wnychildcare.com/parents/Parenting_Tips/temper/crying_baby.gif
Calum Rxxxxx Wxxxxxx

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

ATTN JAMES BLOUNT: If you post those swans again I'm deleting them.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(I'm not delting the baby, though; TOO DARNED CUTE)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 11 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.
Looks like he is that dumb, James. Know any good lawyers?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

did you check the message headers against james (or anyone else's?) I got attached images of a woman being fux0red by a dog thee other day (really) but it was spam. if the messages are still in the waste basket, look at the headers, and check the IP address. If it's that bad, complain to the ISP. If it's that bad, and it's spam, learn to use the message rule function in yer mail app, and look into server-side filtering.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread started so well.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

nah, it's not 'that bad', vaguely threatening (and I do mean VAGUELY), I might act on it I might not (probably the latter). I offerred him a truce - don't be a troll and yer threads won't get hijacked - and I'm hoping he'll take it but we'll see.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

haha that was aimed at calum's compaining of being sent skanky images, but i suppose it fits just as well to your complaint james!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

james why do you validate calums behaviour? where has it got you?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

semiotics in action: James the whol fuX0ring POINT of the swans is to actually change the disussion to something else. Paul's orig. wistful "i like swans" was so left-field, so out-of-the-blue, such a breath of fresh air, that it seemed natural to maybe just head off into a discussion of how awesome swans are (or whatever) and ignore the little pest trying to talk about nekkid chiX0r. but usage changes meaning; perception changes reality: at this point the swans are TOTALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE because they're short-hand for "fuck you calum" instead of "swans are beautiful" (or whatever) so they accomplish exactly what they were designed to avoid: escalation of hostility and further progress along thee road Calum wants us all to drive on, DO YOU SEE??

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(sorry to get overheated but it PISSES ME OFF to see beautiful images of wonderful creatures become code for this kind of dumb penny-ante needling, much as i get pissed off to see a grebt place for talking become same!!)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but you must admit that it's awfully nice to scroll down several screenfuls of swans in between "fuck you"-a-thons.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yes their preternatural soothingness knows a rare resilience

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

also i love how this thread, which technically belongs in the "hype" or even "gratuitous spam" category, is introduced by calum as his attempt at "eating humble pie"?! up = down, right = left

calum, to actually answer the question i think this movie idea is one of the most spectacularly bad ideas i've ever heard (those of us who live in Southern Cali may have heard worse, though?)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Scrolling down an entire thousand-high page of those wireframe swan pics while listening to the Chemical Brothers is my new hobby.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, the is a definite 'fuck you' element to my use of the swans, but the main reason I've posted them so, er, voluminously is that it prompts/neccessitates 'page downing', giving a nice sort of hypnotic effect I find and also leading one to skip over the the other nastiness like a pebble on a pond. Also the 'where has it got me' (and even I'm not sure of this after todays and yesterdays trollathons I must bear at least 50% of the blame for) if Calum's denigrating me it means he's distracted from denigrating women, etc. (ha, more like , which frankly he was NEVER gonna get bored of doing. I imagine he might get bored of having every thread he starts eventually turn into just another Blount bash, though who knows, maybe he won't. I've offerred him a deal (see mod thread) and maaaybe he'll take it, who knows. I don't doubt he can start good threads, the Disney one was a good idea and I do apologize for jumping the gun there, and he is a horror geek which could be a plus, but let's not pretend if I wasn't responding the way I have Calum wouldn't still be starting up 'I wanna cum on Baby Spice's bosom' threads.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

That's bullshit dude. Quit posting the fucking swans.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

much as i get pissed off to see a grebt place for talking become same!!
Ha. Tracer in OTM sh0x0r!!

I think the neon wireframe swans are lovely. I would really like a real neon wireframe swan of my very own actually.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

James I'm not a horror geek. I'm a fan of cult films regardless of the genre, but I'm a horror film geek then please explain why much of my writing is geared towards very serious concern at the genre's sexual treatment towards women (I know what misogyny looks like, I've seen it on film many times and it upsets me hugely, be it 'Straw Dogs' or 'Cannibal Holocaust'). I do enjoy many horror films, especially the work of Argento and Romero, but my favourite films are a hugely mixed bunch taking in action flicks from Hong Kong, several Disney movies, numerous Bond flicks, classics like Casablanca and It's a Wonderful Life and epics such as The Godfather, Apocalypse Now etc etc

I'm a huge film buff I'll grant you that, but I hate being lumped as a horror movie geek which paints the picture of this anti-social greasy haired, fat, lonely nerd slavering over slasher films which I promise I am not (much as you might want me to be!).

In response - I AM sorry for the allegations and would ask the moderator to remove them. I was recieving some really bizarre shit in my hotmail account this afternoon - nothing illegal but a bit more aggresive than the usual porn stuff you get as spam.

Finally, I did want comments on this as it's an idea I actually enjoy and have enjoyed working with for a while now.

― Calum, Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Calum it's like a punchline to a joke in a sitcom about struggling screenwriters!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Calum - I mean the term 'horror geek' with affection, trust me. some of my best friends are horror geeks, and I envy them for it (somewhat).

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

and if I misunderstood/misstated your film interests I apologize, knowing you put out a cult movie zine somehow got translated into horror geek in my mind, again mea culpa

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"Anyway, thanks for the feedback. It can be a good idea for a whole film, I think, if enough set pieces and background are put into the script. Which was my intention. "

It would be cool if it was just like a one scene play (like the Cube) and it should consist of many single shots over a long time. like a 15 min shot here, and a 20 min shot there. With maybe some fast pace shots of strippers. It definitly has to have some strippers in it. Maybe open the movie with a shocking scene of a Stripper.

― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 22 April 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

This GREBT cause its Calum, but this is just so silly its funny even when I try to remove your taint from this thread.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

huh huh huh. Noodles is trying to remove Calum's taint!

― Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

MOD NOTE: In order to Google-proof Calum's name, I had to delete a bunch of James' swans.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, sure Dan sure

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you saying Im more tainted then he?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHA "tainted"!

(Do you know what a "taint" is, Sir Noodles?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i dont even know whats going on

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

1.To affect with or as if with a disease.
2.To affect with decay or putrefaction; spoil. See Synonyms at contaminate.
3.To corrupt morally.
4.To affect with a tinge of something reprehensible.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

haha - that aint the taint (think xanadu)

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

When I think Xanadu I think Orson Wells so that aint helping.

Spell it out you rouges!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

'Taint ass, 'taint balls!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

the taint is the dmz between your genitals and your ass

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

...some of my best friends are horror geeks... KLON!!

― s trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

haha - trife have you seen final destination 2 yet?

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that was a choad.

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

no and i missed willard too : (

― s trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought that was a choad.

As did I.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

you're forgetting the dollar theater

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

choad vs. taint FITE!

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I just set the swans as background cos they're beautiful, as to the rest of this thread I genuinely couldn't give a rat's arse. But thanks for the swans.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

You saw the skyline of Sackville I posted, I got as much urban cred as lumberjack plaid.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

that urban dictionary is awesome :)

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Pah - Final Destination 2.

Okay, if you want the best horror films you've NEVER seen then seek out foreign movies, dim the lights and enjoy (make it your worldy quest to this little lot as they are weird, wonderful and delightfully insane and well made and horribly underseen by your average every day fan - except maybe the Argento ones which are increasingly more and more well known). And if you really want a challenge try and get a hold of the Italian remake of Jaws called 'The Last Shark' by Enzo Casteralli which was banned for copyright reasons from virtually everywhere and is utterly nuts (it has James Franciscus as Roy Scheider and Vic Morrow as Robert Shaw):

*Deep Red (Argento, 1975)
*Suspiria (Argento, 1976)
*Inferno (Argento, 1980)
*Opera (Argento, 1987)
*Mask of Satan (Bava, 1960)
*Uzumaki (2000, Higuchinsky)
*Dark Water (2002, Nakata)
*Funny Games (1997, Haneke)
*The Beyond (1981, Fulci)

And added because it's a zombie film from Spain which is reason enough to check it out:

*Tombs of the Blind Dead (Ossorio, 1971)

― Calum, Wednesday, 23 April 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Uzumaki's alot of fun, I will definitely seek out The Last Shark

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

those swans are beautiful; that dictionary is fun; it's a holiday tomorrow.

― Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 24 April 2003 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

RIP

― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

My god, ILX has IMPROVED it's discourse; I never would've dreamed.

― forksclovetofu, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (eighteen years ago)

no the first few responses on this thread are pretty much OTM

― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 18 June 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

If people describe their own ideas as 'barmy', 'bizzare' or 'mad', those ideas will invariably be shit.

― chap, Monday, 18 June 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

cf. Peter Sutcliffe

― Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)


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