Pronounciation of Scone and Glasgow

glahz-go

But my pronounciation is really f*cked up due to transatlantic childhood and Scottish grandparents.

Of course accents create prejudices, but you have to know the classes involved to hold those prejudices, which I don't.

glasgow, for me is glazz-go. but that is cuz i say in yorkshire accent, so i could never say glarz, i dont know what scots say cuz i dont know any

are you about at the moment ambrose, going out is in order soon? actually i am thinking you will be at warp nite, or should that be wap neet?

skon.

I say skon, but then I'm from the north. Similarly I pronounce the l in almond.

There are three ways of pronouncing scone, there's skune (as in tune) (sorry, don't know where to put symbols) which is how some people pronounce the place name.

Yeah, it almost sounds like "Glass-cow"! Ouch.

oh, and i meant the breadcake thing, not the place. although was that the orignal pronounciation? presumably...

i say skon and glazgo, both with short vowels, but that is an expection where i live. in fatc what prompted this topic was thinking about when i used to work in a cafe, and they sold scones (obv.) and these old women used to come in and ask for 3 'scoh-nes'. what a dilmemma! i never solved it. sometimes i just lived a lie and said it the same way as them, however alien it sounded, others i said it the other way, but was worried about sounding like i was correwcting them. so how do those in the service industry overcome this sort of problem?

as I say scown, and if the derbyshire accent really kicks in then it's a scowen.

Just never ask me to pronounce Billy Joel.

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glars go

Glahz-go (slightly accentuated first syllable), though I used to say Glas-go until not long after I moved there.

but then I veer between pronouncing my own name Ail-sa and Ail-za (accent on first syllable) so what would I know.

i made some scones this weekend.
in the preamble to the recipe it said to pronounce this word "skawn" which rhymes with gone.
pretty much everyone i've said this in front of corrected me to say (rhymes with bone).

stupid amurkins

Q: What is the fastest cake in the world?

A: S'gone! (scone)

how can "skawn" rhyme with "gone"?

Rhymes for me, I just say scone (cone).

I used to say scone as in gone and would defend that to the death. But inexplicably since moving to the US I have started calling them scooones as in bones. I have some blueberry ones sitting on my counter actually :D

how can "skawn" rhyme with "gone"?

Presumably it was an American recipe. They don't have the /ɒ/ sound that British English uses in 'gone'.

I will never call a risotto a ris-OH-to though. NEVER!

scone to rhyme with on. glasgow as either glez gah or glaz go.

that is how you pronounce risotto though?

??

I say /skəʊn/ (like 'bone') rather than /skɒn/ (like 'gone'), but I'm in the minority.

riz-otto as in lotto = ok
riz-oh!-to as in Kyoto = dud

btw did you know that you are insane, because no one on Earth pronounces "risotto" so it rhymes with "lotto" unless they are mispronouncing "lotto"

Er...I've never met anyone who *doesn't* pronounce 'risotto' to rhyme with 'lotto'.

lotto rhymes with risotto. you're the crazy one. in a nice way.

Ris-OH!-to is the American way.

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OH! to rhyme with "Joe"?

Yep.

it even has a nasty diphthong to make it even more painful -- /ow/

rih-SOHT-ow!

Also of interest, although probably not much: there's a cafe on Rivington called Bruscheteria that has the pronunciation written parenthetically underneath, pointing out that the "ch" is a hard "k". Because we say it soft, like the ch- in "chef".

As long as we're talking Italian cuisine: broo-SHET-ta or broo-SKET-ta? (I say the latter, but I suspect the former is more common in these parts.)

OMG xpost!

I've just realised why my scone pronunciation changed - there is a brand here called 'Sconehenge' (lol) which forces you into the wrong pronunciation. I think I just affected a Bristolian accent to mock the name sconehenge and it stuck.

scone rhymes with own

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:37 (6 years ago)

scpne

oven hacking

rizzo D'oh!
i was just doing the 8 year old thing of "no-it-isn't, yes-it-is" X like 100 over the skawn vs scone(henge)

with a coworker, who's a punk know-it-all

As long as we're talking Italian cuisine: broo-SHET-ta or broo-SKET-ta? (I say the latter, but I suspect the former is more common in these parts.)

― jam master (jaymc), Monday, 5 April 2010 22:23 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think I say something clumsily between the two, like broo-shket-ta.

the other one I get wrong is chorizo - I'm pretty sure it should be chor-EE-tho, but that's never what I end up saying.

I get by with treating the z like it's two zzs, like in pizza and Rizzoli. Which is almost certainly wrong but it feels so right.

yeah, I'm sure I've called it Ko-reet-zo before!

and to answer the thread:

Scone like gone and John, Glaz-go ( short a like "cat", go like "Joe")

S'gone, Ris-OTT-oh, chor-EE-tzo.

Chorizo pizza - chorizza.

trying to get out of the 'glaaaaahzgow' habit.

chor-EE-tho

is right. i speak spanish after the latin american fashion and so pronounce it chor-EE-so.

I have been determinedly pronouncing "chorizo" as chor-eeth-o and usually get an Italian-esque pronunciation back, e.g. "koreetzo".

Pronouncing "risotto" like the t isn't doubled is confusing to me, but for all I know that's the Italian way too.

Broosketta

I have been determinedly pronouncing "chorizo" as chor-eeth-o and usually get an Italian-esque pronunciation back, e.g. "koreetzo".

'cho-' wouldn't be pronounced 'ko-' in Italian (or Spanish).

Pronouncing "risotto" like the t isn't doubled is confusing to me, but for all I know that's the Italian way too.

It isn't.

'cho-' wouldn't be pronounced 'ko-' in Italian

Actually, that's not quite right. What I meant is a 'ko' sound would be spelt 'co' in Italian and a 'cho' sound would be spelt 'cio'. I don't think the spelling 'cho' would exist, because there's no reason for the 'h' to be there.

?? Double tts are pronounced in Italian and 'cho' is ko not tcho.

Michael, my "it isn't" referred to the second part of the sentence (i.e. it isn't the Italian way to pronounce 'risotto' like 'Kyoto').

i've always pronounced it Rees (rhyming with the english word peas) - ot (rhyming with the english word got) - toe (as in pronounced like the english word toe).

I say "chuh-REE-zo."

Would never occur to me to pronounce it with a Spanish accent, but then I'm more likely to encounter Mexican chorizo here than Spanish chorizo.

There are three ways of pronouncing scone, there's skune (as in tune) (sorry, don't know where to put symbols)

.....

... skoon not skune for the town of Scone, of course. Meanwhile...

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I find it fascinating how the names of cities and countries are sometimes pronounced differently in the UK & US and wonder why.

A lot of pronunciations/word usages we in the UK consider American are in fact the way we used to say the words here - like saying "dew" as "doo" rather than the same as "due" or not putting a 'y' sound in Tuesday.

But did British people used to pronounce the last half of "Moscow" like the bovine animal and switch to "co" later? It's not like the Russian name Moskva influenced it one way or another!

A lot of pronunciations/word usages we in the UK consider American are in fact the way we used to say the words here - like saying "dew" as "doo" rather than the same as "due" or not putting a 'y' sound in Tuesday.

They still do in Norfolk and the West Country don't they?

They still do in Norfolk and the West Country don't they?

I never noticed it when I lived in Bristol, though I was there as a student not a working person so didn't hear as many locals as, say, Dog Latin. Maybe they do in Somerset, Devon, Cornwall?

In Norfolk there seems to be a lot of 'oo' going on, Funeral is Fooneral

Yes, they're even more enthusiastic about than Americans.

what's with the anomalous Essex / NE London scone/cone rhyming belt ?

where did the UK "los angeleez" pronunciation come from, i've never heard it from an american? and I know USers pronounce New Orleans a few different ways but most seem to emphasise the second syllable rather than the third like brits almost always do

in london there are the traditional pronunications of marylebone and holborn which seem to be used less these days, but probably varies by age, class, area of origin

which came first "noo" or "nyoo"?

"noo"

"nyoo" another london affectation like broad As and dropped Rs? or something else

That reminds me, I was watching Stephen Sackur interviewing Douglas Stuart about his novel, "Shuggie Bain", a few days ago and Sackur kept pronouncing Shuggie as Shoogie - since when was -ugg pronounced as -oog in English? Now, the author, who you would imagine would know how to pronounce the name of his own novel, was obviously mentioning the title pretty often, and yet Sackur ploughed on regardless. I just thought, posh arrogant BBC wanker who thinks he knows best, which probably says more about me than Stephen Sackur, but it was bugging - sorry, booging - me so much that I found myself saying "Shuggie... Shuggie... SHUGGIE!" out loud, through gritted teeth, each time he said it.

... hold on, is he called Douglas Stuart? Isn't that the guy in the BMX Bandits?

... yes he is.

shoogie and doogie

Your man from the BMX Bandits is Duglas T Stewart.

[I can never leave it alone, Scone the place is Skoon. Glasgow is Glazzgo]