Women Requiredfor International Rock Revolution!----------------Join Courtney Love'sTouring Band and get famous,see the world!-----------------Must play BASS or GUITAR (Really Play)and look like a Goddess.----------------We like Emily the Strange, Lolita Goth,Patty Schemel's drumming, Nuggets and"Performance" the Movie. We love Flea butdon't want you to play like him.----------------We start NOW.NO BOYS.-------------------
The "rock revolution" crap is a bit played out, but Courtney is an interesting enough artist to me (please, no H4t4z) to be interested in playing with her.
So where the heck can I get an NTSC video recorder? Sigh. (I'm not sure about the "looking like a goddess" bit unless that goddess is Kali on a particularly bad planet-wrecking day, but I can play well enough.)
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
You might as well try out just to say you did. I read an article on a local dj in the paper the other day and they mentioned a long list of bands she had tried out for, never mind that she never actually played with any of them.
So you have to have a special type of video recorder for this???
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm arrogant enough to be convinced I'm actually the person she's looking for. But not creative enough to think of a way to prove it. Hrmmmm.
(BTW, it is NOT Hole. Definitely not Hole, hence why no Melissa or Eric.)
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
This sentence will stick with me for some time, I have no idea why.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sonny m, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
Eh, I just want an excuse to whip it out on Courtney (since I've had to see her nekkid-self so many times now, I think it's only fair that she get a taste of the nekkidalicious).
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sonny m, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
But whatever, that's another story. If I get pissed off about that sort of thing, I probably shouldn't work for Ms. Love, then.
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
And if you are talking about Drowned in Sound. That really was not a favour, in fact, you were going to write to him and recommend that I don't write for the paper. : - )
Sorry. That's the way the music industry works but that's not how my friendship works. You know?
― Sonny M, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
But the other way 'round ... seems sort of not on.
― Sonny M, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
in two weeks time i'm going to play 4 Non Blondes 'Whats Goin On?' really loudly and feel it man
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
Do you mean a camera, Kate? All VHS players made in the last 2 years or so should support PAL and VHS - the ILF answer
Go for it, Kate! NOW! You are ideal (from what I know about you)! - the ILE answer
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
I don't even know if I want to get involved with the music industry again. I've been more and more of the "Well, actually, I'd like to have a normal life for a while, you know, have a boyfriend, go back to school, get a job I don't hate, etc..." tip lately. And I'm wondering if I should be dragged back in.
But being a rock star when you're on *that* level (as evidenced even by my short exposure on the Bangles tour) is fucking fun. Oh, I don't know. What can it hurt to try? What do I have to lose? Except to set myself up with a huge big pile of expectations which will only be dashed when cruel reality impinges again like it always does.
I wish I weren't so freaking DOWN today. I hate PMS. I will make the decision next week when I'm not all PMS-ing to hell.
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sonny m, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― piscesboy, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
Vegetarian non-smoking non-drug-taking Kate vs. C.Love - who do you think would drive who mad?
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sonny m, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― piscesboy, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
And someone next to whom, I looked fairly normal. ;-)
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sonny m, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
Here's more:COURTNEY'S BANDMATES BAILSource: Sorelle Saidman - August 31, 2001
Louise Post and Corey Parks have left Courtney Love's new band Bastard. Bastard have been recording a punk CD for Epitaph Records, while Love's primary band, Hole, remains on hiatus due to a label dispute. Post defected because of a personality clash with Love. "It was sad to leave, but I felt I had no choice," says Post, who quit after one day of recording with the band and an intensive period of writing and practicing. "I felt Courtney was becoming a friend, and I was very close to [drummer] Patty Schemel -- it was so great getting to play with her. But things just went in a different direction." "I wish her well," Post continues. "Courtney is a powerful force, and she'll do whatever she wants to do. It's a shame we couldn't get along." Love praises Post's vocals and guitar work on her Web site. "She could be excellent if she applied herself," reads a recent note. "I love her playing." Bastard's original lineup was Love, Post, Schemel, guitarist Kat Bjelland and Rockit Girl bassist Gina Crosley, who recently joined Post's main project, Veruca Salt replacing Suzanne Sokol. Bjelland, who has a long history of clashes with Love, pulled out soon after, and Crosley was put on ice while Love courted Parks, the fire-breathing, leggy blonde best-known for her stint in Nashville Pussy. Parks did eventually join the project, says Post, but left after just a week or so.
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
What all do you need to audition, kate?
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
And Sonny, sorry to be blunt, but re your contact, you don't seem to be being much of a friend.
― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 1 May 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 1 May 2003 15:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
Bjelland told NME.COM that she was approached by Courtney's management with a list of rules stipulating how she should conduct herself if she was appointed - before she had heard any Courtney's new music.
Prospective members of Bastard - which Courtney is said to have described as a "female Megadeth" - were also told that they would be under contract to Courtney, not to Epitaph Records.
Kat told NME.COM: "(Courtney) didn't approach me personally; her manager called my manager. She had this whole concept down, outlined something like 15 rules.
"It was crazy stuff, like 'no talking about the past', 'no doing drugs in the studio', 'you're practising this many hours of the day', 'you'll get this amount of money'. It was really crazy, really restricting. I thought it was just kind of hilarious, 'cos aren't you meant to just ask someone if they're interested before you start doing that!
"I said I was flattered that they thought of me, but I can't write songs for someone else."
― No Way, Thursday, 1 May 2003 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 1 May 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 1 May 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Simeon (Simeon), Thursday, 1 May 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― daria g, Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 1 May 2003 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 1 May 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 1 May 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
and dont worry about not getting it, you have a good chance i'm sure, and even if you don't get it, you'll have had a go. the failure is not failing at something, the failure is not trying, that is the ultimate failure. send in the tape and you'll have already done something good in itself, regardless of outcome
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
Don't do it! I know whereof I speak.
― mei (mei), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Your tone seems to be that the end of result of studying mathematics at uni is far less important that a life spent on the coat tails of Ms Love.Guitar players may become more famous and make a lot more money and lead "cooler" lives than most people but I don't any serious person would consider their existence very important in any sense of the word.
― Roman (Roman), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
with the emphasis on "may".
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Going back to university has been something that has been on my mind a lot lately. Certainly that seems like a preferable option to rotting in this office.
― kate, Friday, 2 May 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 2 May 2003 11:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Friday, 2 May 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― toraneko (toraneko), Friday, 2 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 2 May 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 2 May 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
Art is nice but not that important. You can survive without art, especially the dribble passed of as art.Functional art like architecture is far more relevant than lilies on the pond.
― Food and Glory, Friday, 2 May 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 2 May 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
Thanks for judging my "tone" so defensively, Roman.
Kate, sorry for taking that "tone" but I didn't want to think that if your life took a turn towards a somewhat (arbitrarily) deeper career move, you would somehow feel inadequate and less important. This would clearly not be the case. Though I enjoy music immensely I do not think my life would have been wasted if I hadn't heard even half of the music I have listened to in my life.
― Roman (Roman), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
By the way, does Ronan=Roman?
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
Sarah,I guess the entertainment industry is serious business to some but not to all of us. The Julia Robertses and George Clooneys of the world are important in a sense I do not fathom. Maybe you do.
― Roman (Roman), Friday, 2 May 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 2 May 2003 21:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hamish (hamish), Saturday, 3 May 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hamish (hamish), Saturday, 3 May 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
I just found out that my former bassist - you know, the one who was too busy "working on her house" to continue being in my band - says that she wants to audition.
That has officially destroyed any desire I ever had, ironic or not, to audition. Yeah, I fucking hope that she gets it, too. I think about 5 minutes of working with Courtney Love will make her realise that maybe I wasn't quite so bad after all.
I fucking hate the music industry. I fucking hate it so much. I hate the way that it turns former friends into enemies and rivals and I still can't stop myself from feeling angry. :-(
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in Rotherham (alexfack), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― piscesboy, Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
Or maybe I'm just severely depressed because we got the sales figures from our album today and we're even more unpopular (and therefore I'm even less talented) than I previously believed.
Can this week get any more crap? :-(
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
I really do feel like this is just final confirmation of my total talentlessnes. The sales figures have spoken. I truly am shit as a songwriter and a musician. I should just give up, burn any dreams I might have had left and go home. I will never be anything other than an office slob who hates her job.
I really just want to cry. Oh christ, I am crying. Time to go hide in the bathroom for a bit.
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
As to the cavilling about sales, talent and the rest: my first book never sold as well as it should have after I'd worked damned hard to make it good. Disappointing as that was, it still means a great deal to me to meet people six years later who not only bought it, but cherish it. At the time I was concerned that a) my PR wasn't doing enough with the contacts I gave her and b) the marketing department were even worse. Hence not very many sales after mostly brilliant reviews. If you beat yourself up over an apparent lack of interest, it only hurts you and kind of makes all the people who *did* go and see your gigs and buy the records feel a bit chopped liverish.
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
Courtney: "So, do you like the Ramones?". My friend:"Well..(pause)... I think they are incredibly influential, though I don't listen to them every day, day in and day out,..."
My friend found out the desired answer was "No". She never got the gig. (based on that question alone, or other reasons, I have no idea)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yes, Kate - Cheer up! Look at the Top 40, ferchrissakes, record sales do not correlate with talent! I love the Lollies tracks I've heard, and I know talent. And you're one of the most talented ILX posters! ;)
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
So, while I don't think you should let it get you down or discourage you, Kate, I can DEFINITELY empathize with where you're coming from. I also think you should audition for Courtney, if only for the opportunity to call her an asshat if she does something stupid.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
No, I've decided not to do it, for more reasons than I can outline. Not the least of which is, my gut reaction says "don't do it" and I'm trying to listen to my gut more. Hell, it's big enough.
I'm recording this weekend, I've decided to concentrate more on making music (even if it's just in my bedroom) that makes *me* happy, and stop trying to make a "career" out of music. You have to make too many sacrifices that I'm not prepared to make.
― kate, Friday, 9 May 2003 08:12 (twenty-one years ago) link