thor heyerdahl: visionary, nitwit or LEGENDARY NORSE GOD?!?!

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apparently all but one of the six-man crew is now dead :(

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Kon Tiki and I" by Erik Hesselberg wz one of my favourite books as a kid, and I built a little Kon Tiki out of actual balsa-wood and made pipecleaner men for the crew!!

(haha blimey "pipecleaners" = word from a dead cold planet all by itself...)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 1 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

where is the love?

mark s (mark s), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

I had the kon-tiki expedition as an sudio book as a kid. I still want to sail the pacific on a balsa wood raft. there's not enough becuase its there, because I can anymore.

Ed (dali), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hah... I built a little Kon Tiki raft out of balsa wood too for elementary school English class also.

Anyway, Heyerdahl is all of the above.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

My god I didn't know anyone else knew about the Hesselberg book. I loved the drawings.

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I never built a Kon-Tiki raft out of balsa wood. I feel deprived!

what proportion of pipecleaners bought are actually used for cleaning pipes?!

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
http://www.f6blk.net/photos/LI2Bshack_x1.jpg

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

thor heyerdahl shares my birthday. um, more accurately, i share his. so he gets 'Norse God' vote from me.

andy

koogs (koogs), Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

watching the film right now

it really brings home how totally nuts they were to try it: heyerdahl couldn't swim and only *one* of the six had any experience at sea (and obviously not in a tiny balsa-wood raft)

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link

also hullo 14-years-ago me

all the crew are dead now, knaugland died aged 90 in 2009 :(

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link

92 in fact

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDrnF4BXkAAqmMA.jpg

^^^more hesselberg

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Heyerdahl was crazy, courageous, charismatic and probably 100% wrong in his theories, despite his surviving the voyage.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link

less than 100% (acc.wikipedia, citing this): polynesians do apparently have a partly south american genetic heritage, from around the time the islands were first settled

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link

Genetic material could be shared because Polynesians sailed east and then returned, which, given the impressive navigational abilities of the Polynesians, would make more sense to me than Native Americans drifting west on balsa rafts and accidentally making landfall on a place like RapaNui, the most isolated piece of inhabited land on earth.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

in which case he was not 100% wrong

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDrTvSvWsAAgffr.jpg

mark s, Saturday, 1 July 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

70th anniversary of the arrival at Raroia atoll.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 August 2017 03:29 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

thor heyerdal proved correct (jared diamond wrong wrong wrong)

https://www.science.org/content/article/famed-polynesian-island-did-not-succumb-ecological-suicide-new-evidence-reveals

"In a bonus from the work, the team found that Native American DNA comprised up to 12% of the ancient people’s genomes. That finding supports earlier hints that Polynesian Rapanui mixed with Native Americans from South America some 600 to 800 years ago, perhaps by making round-trip voyages to the South American coast"

mark s, Thursday, 12 September 2024 18:56 (three months ago) link

(aimless also wrong)

mark s, Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link

I saw somebody convincingly stating that the "used all the trees" theory was discredited recently, I'm sure it's still going to be repeated by people who repeat that kind of thing for years to come tho sadly

Yuwen Hu's army (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:03 (three months ago) link

If Heyerdahl's hypothesis was that Polynesians sailed their very sophisticated outrigger crafts to South America and back, how does building a crude balsa raft based on South American designs and materials and starting out from SA prove that?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:08 (three months ago) link

that wasn't his hypothesis lol

mark s, Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:17 (three months ago) link

Has everyone forgotten about the even more bonkers Ra!?!?

pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:20 (three months ago) link

right. which is why proof of contact between polynesia and south america does not prove heyerdahl's hypothesis was right, but that he got it backwards. the origins of the contact was not from SA into polynesia, but from polynesia to SA.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:21 (three months ago) link

heyerdahl proving that sun ra did come from saturn by flying in the opposite direction in a spaceship made of papyrus leaves

mark s, Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

I was super into that Ra book when I was a kid, my parents had it

I always assumed the southern pacific ocean was already well navigated/travelled (back & forth) long before we gave them credit for... and of course that old rumor that pharoahs in Egypt had cocaine in their tissue! Coke only comes from S America

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 12 September 2024 19:39 (three months ago) link


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