my new neighbors have GOT TO GO

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my old neighbor who lived across from me moved out a few weeks ago. he was a bit of a mook, but a friendly, quiet mook who kept to himself and was cordial. today, our new neighbors moved in. i haven't actually met them yet, but i've been treated to them all night. first, i came home to find our landing now has two chairs, an ashtray overflowing with cigarette butts, and several bud cans. fine, whatever. as long as they go away the next day, y'know? so nancy and i are sitting in the living room tonight, trying to watch a movie, and it's like these fools have set up camp outside our door. (it's a landing, not a lounge, morans.) talking loudly, making some kind of hellafied racket with what sounded like a piece of metal at one point, kicking an empty beer bottle down the steps, repeatedly slamming the door, bass on blast from inside their house (with their door closed for chrissakes.) finally nancy got fed up and went out and asked them to keep it down. "oh yeah, sure, sorry." well, folx, it's 1:22, and as of five minutes ago when i went out to get some water they're still out there, making roughly the same amount of noise. to add insult to injury, i overheard them talking about when nancy chastised them, repeatedly referring to her as a "bitch". (being stark naked was about the only thing which prevented me from going out there and flipping out on them.) thankfully you can't really hear anything from the bedroom (where i am now), but hearing "man, i don't care what that bitch says, half the people in this complex don't even get up to go to work in the morning" and "we're gonna get evicted, but who cares" has just put me on screaming hate mode, and it's been one day. i'm gonna see how things progress over the weekend, but if you hear of a washington state man killing three white townies who refer to themselves as "nigga" (kill me now please), don't be surprised.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:27 (twenty-two years ago)

GAH

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:27 (twenty-two years ago)

opportunities for grada a passive agressive hijinx are not to be dismissed jess - rent animal house and the 'scott tenorman must die' episode of south park immediately.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

it's like god has decided to punish me for slackening even slightly in my distate for this town

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

buy a red sharpie. go to a red lobster, rummage through the dumpster until you get a couple of good grocery bag fulls of empty lobster shells. get a few issues of the local alt-weakly, disassemble them and then wet them down. buy some eggs, crack them, scramble (DO NOT COOK). lay disassembled alt-weaklies in a pile in front of their front door, scatter lobster shells on top, pour eggs onto shells and doorknob. on door (or on paper taped to door) right 'THIS IS YOU. ASSHOLES.'

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:38 (twenty-two years ago)

that or constantly invite them to imaginary parties that are nowhere near where you live.

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always wondered, what does mook mean exactly? I'm really confused; I've thought for the longest time that it has something to do with Florida, New Jersey, and Limp Bizkit, but I'm really not clear beyond that.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 2 May 2003 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)

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MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess they seem resigned to the fact that they are gonna get evicted so fuck em - start proceedings to get the S.O.B's evicted. I dont know what US law's are like for noise and un-gentlemanly behaviour but they have become pretty strict in the uk. Is it a private apartment block? if so it must have a landlord - get on his back about it - let him do the dirty work, and in the mean time get together with your neighbours and see if they are affected - mob handed can be better - and if they dont bend to the pressure thern pressure the land lord to get them out.

Bastard neighbours really fucX me off as i have had to live next to two lots of them - so you def have my (long distance) support

james (james), Friday, 2 May 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

my advice is to stay away from these freaks. let your landlord know you are less than pleased. document everything, dates and times of all disturbances. i went through the same thing last year. another thing, it really helps to have other tenants file complaints against them -if you can work that out. eviction can be tricky when its a one neighbor vs another neighbor dispute.


kephm, Friday, 2 May 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

do they have mullets?

kephm, Friday, 2 May 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I think you should go over to their apartment bare-ass and ask them if you can borrow some vaseline. That will keep em quiet.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

with a cucumber in one hand and death metal playing in the background.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

get them to apply it for you too

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

dont escalate things, whether you are in the right or not can be scant consolation if they play hardball. i think being friendly to them is the way forward (even if you really want to stab their eyes out with a rusty screwdriver), like saying hi when you see them, smiling, all that stuff. it just makes it that little bit more likely that they'll turn it down whe you ask. it sucks, and yea, its bending to them, but what can you do?

course, there is nothing to stop you trying to get them evicted at the same time, just dont reveal your hand to them

gareth (gareth), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

especially if it's smothered in vaseline

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

hehe.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, you have my sympathies. Nearly all of my neighbors in this apartment are horrible and creepy, and even they haven't pulled anything as bad as what you're describing.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

What kinda fackers hang out on the landing? Don't they have, like, a living room or something? W...T...F!?!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

My sympathies indeed, they are clearly hateful assclowns. I agree with the 'bite down hard, document everything and get their butts out' approach...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yup. Get them evicted. They're already expecting it. Start gathering evidence. Don't retaliate until they're on their way out.

Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i wrote that in a fit of blinding rage last night. we'll see how things go tonight (it is friday after all, whoo hoo, party, etc.) oh, and i should note that all the landings are outside, exposed to the nice fresh air, and even i sit (or used to sit) and read out there, so it's not not so insane except for the fact you can hear everything through our walls. anyway, i'm going to go into today giving them the benefit of the doubt. but for some reason i have a feeling this thread is going to turn into a litany of me freaking out...

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

jess freaking out? noooooooo < /I love jess>

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

My neighbors have a really, really loud stereo upon which they play not only the hottest contemporary urban musics but also action films and very violent video games (at all hours of the day, night and morning). Yes, I know, everyone has this problem--but you have not heard this sound system they have. It's ridiculous, like so loud that we (next door) can't hear the TV and must shout to hear each other. Banging on the wall has the effect Jess described upthread: five minutes of slightly-less-noise and then (like we won't notice) back up to the original level. Also they lock their dog in a bedroom and let it bark allllll daaaaay and sometimes all night.

I shouldn't complain though--they are better than that apartment's previous tenants. They were small-time drug dealers and one night they apparently got into a little bit of trouble--someone came in and quite loudly kicked their asses (with a lot of thumping and cracking sounds) demanding "GIMME MY MONEY! WHERE'S MY MONEY MOTHERFUCKER? DID YOU SMOKE ALL THAT SHIT?" et cetera. They moved soon after. It is unsurprisingly quite cheap to live in my neighborhood.

Jess: all advice given is quite valid: both passive-aggressive torment and by-the-book getting-them-evicted are excellent tactics. I, when I had an 8AM class last semester, would put on Crowbar EXTREMELY LOUD right before I left for class (on repeat) and let them suffer. This also works with Atomsmasher (er... Phantomsmasher) and basically anything with a lot of really loud bass. Merzbow is sadly ineffective given his reliance on higher (read: non-wall-rattling) frequencies.

adam (adam), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, i should note that this is hardly the worst living situation i have ever been in. the "family" that lived below me in astoria were lead by a just ex-con/drug dealer, his medusa like wife, their giant scary dog, and three evil, evil children, who - aside from committing petty theft and knocking down old people around the neighborhood - would play the SAME TWO songs - eminem and some dancehall track (more white "niggas") - OVER AND OVER AND OVER AT TOP VOLUME until everyone was banging on the pipes. this went on for the entire time i lived there (1.5 years.) on the weekends their dad would do the same: with the beach boys.

ironically, when i lived in the actual ghetto in philly (the weekend after i moved in we had to vacate because they were demolishing a couple of projects), i never had any problems, noise or otherwise.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

and thank you all for your support...this just reinforces my idea that we all need to live in one building, ala save by the bell: the college years.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The last apartment I lived in had very thin walls/ceilings/etc. The people upstairs would FITE FITE FITE ("motherfucker, I'm gonna keeel you!" *sound similar to bookshelf containing 4 Encyclopedia-sets being slammed on floor* "goddamnit get out of my house right now fucker!" etc.), which would be followed by a bunch of physical boom bang pow and running-around sounds, then a period of like 1 minute quiet, and then they would start FACKING...HARD. Like, ALL the neighbors in the building heard it, felt it (the whole flimsy fackin building was SHAKING!). They would go on for like 10 minutes, and if you listened really close (NOT RECOMMENDED) you could hear them muttering really mean profanities at each other. And thus I was introduced to the concept of the "grudgefuck".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

re: listening habits of astoria fam - i am nurturing a fantasy wherein a debt-addled ethan was forced to hand over the entirety of his record collection to his dealer.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 2 May 2003 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

My sympathies Jess - apartment life in Oly suXor. I lived in ghetto areas in Portland and Seattle and neither of them were anywhere near as bad as the places I lived while at Evergreen. In Seattle my neighborhood convenience store had bars on the windows and surveillance cameras out front, and my neighborhood bar had metal detectors at the entrance. Yet nearly all the people I encountered were pleasant, and certainly not loud or disrespectful (aside from the crack dealing and occasional robbery, but neither were happening on my balcony). They seemed to have a sort of - I don't know - dignity or at least common sense that is totally lacking in Oly. When I lived in the B*tler C*ve apartments I had both the situations you described at once: a family with thieving children on one side and crank-addled townies on the other (one of whom had a GIANT 8-BALL painted on the hood of his rusted-out Accord).

chester (synkro), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, same universal strategy given the times applies here.

Cough really badly in their presence.. mumble about "quarantine" and "SARS" a lot. Put some black and yellow tape around your landing.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

ooooh - do that one, yes

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The problem with putting a CD loudly, on repeat, just before you leave the house is that you won't be there to lie or otherwise defend yourself if the neighbords complain, or the landlord happens to stop by. That's the only thing that's kept me from employing that tactic.

The "let's turn it down for two minutes and then crank it back up" move in-fucking-furiates me. In my Boston apartment, I would occasionally fantasize about sneaking into the apartment just below and snipping the power cables to all of their electronics.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(And of course slaughter the lot of them on the way out.)

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Since I moved to an apartment again, I have to deal with similar issues though not nearly as bad as most have stated above.. the worst is that there is a really active, plodding, crying toddler in the flat above me. Thankfully, I've had friends over on Sat. night playing loud rock music and really obscene prank phone call CDs til around 3am, and no complaints.. I think Mom upstairs has, as they call it, "rizpect"... so hence the yang for the yin. My other neighbor is this super cool hiking/camping type that's oh-so-popular in the Pac NW. (My only complaint is that he tends to overcook his salmon often, stinking up my floor.)

My point is: my old cabin/two bedroom flat I shared had zero noise issues (aside from very active wildlife scurrying across the ceiling over my bedroom) and didn't share walls with anybody.. but I was FAR more miserable because my immediate neighbors were extremely snotty, passive aggressive, and at times just plain evil. I'm much happier with some noise issues and cool neighbors.

Odd thing is: that last place in question was just TWO HOUSES AWAY.

Which brings me to my final point.. Jess? Is there anything keeping you and Nanc from moving to another complex, like a fascist lease or what not? Are you guys on an income restriction bond? Or is your complex just way below market value compared to others? Cuz I vaguely remember you having to get your place in a hurry initially, due to certain evil ex-roommate issues from last year, or something.
Maybe you can upgrade your flat *and* possibly get a better deal?

Anyway , just wanted to say that even a very short move away can vastly increase (but also potentially further decrease) your lifestyle, financially and mentally -- and can be worth the typical hassles of moving.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

...because I have this strange sense of hope that one *can* live in a juggalo/mook-free habitat in Olympia. Call me idealistic...

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

There are nice places in Oly, it's just that 1) thx to students rents are kinda ridiculous, like equivalent to a nice neighborhood in Portland or a decent one in Seattle; 2) there is a massive amount of low income places that are much better deals, but because Oly is still mostly a homeowners community tenants' rights are seemingly non-existent.

Not sure where you live Jess, but places downtown tend to be a lot quieter and many nice ones are earmarked for broke-as-a-joke folx. I think there's a list somewhere (sorry, not very helpful, I know).

chester (synkro), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i live on the westside in a broke-as-a-joke complex. the ironic part is of course that it was must quieter, nicer, etc when it was filled with wellfare families. now that they're making the switch to college students (and college age townies) it's getting noiser, more aggressive, etc.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

and no, there's nothing preventing us from moving, except that we dont really have the money for a new downpayment, etc. hopefully, maybe by the end of the summer...

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 May 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
I don't give a shit if I seem like a square... These NYU fucking assholes need to die.


October 30, 2004


Dear neighbors,

For the second time, you have held a party that kept me awake until 2am. If it happens a third time I will write a letter to our landlord.

I am a first year law student who, even on weekend nights, goes to sleep around 11pm. Your living room is directly above my bedroom. When lots of people dance and stomp around, you play music loudly, and you or your guests yell out the window, it is impossible to sleep.

You have never paid the courtesy of asking beforehand if a party would bother me. And, as far as I can tell, have made no attempt to keep the noise to a reasonable level. Either of these would have made me much less angry than I am now.

I hope this does not continue to be a problem.

Sincerely,

Aar0n Warsh@w
Apartment #1

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I went to sleep at 11PM.

good luck.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I could stay up till 2am without turing into old pissed off neighbor dude. *sigh*

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

my upstairs neighbors have a piano as well as one child who lives there and plays it and what appears to be a constant stream of other people with children who come by in the mornings and play it. i thought they were giving lessons, but it seems more like these little girls are family or children of friends or something, especially as much of the noise is just tuneless plunking. one song they've been playing lately is especially bad, as it consists mostly of repeatedly pounding out a chord with both hands. i've woken up to that one something like three times in the past two weeks i think.

off to the drugstore for earplugs today, i suppose. they've been at it for two hours this morning alone!

modernism, Saturday, 27 December 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

the dudes who lived upstairs when I moved in were annoying cuz there was a lot of 'thudding' from upstairs, but it was from the dog and ultimately it turned out to be mostly a non-issue.

they moved out, but have been replaced by dickweeds who are worse. For one, they have little asshole kids who think it's HEELARIOUS to run down the stairs, knock on my door, and run away. (I had it all set up where I was going to time opening the door as they raised their hands to bang on the door, but they didn't come back).

Secondly, they've begun blaring music at ridiculous volumes at all times of day. A little bleedthrough is expected in a condo, but my floor shouldn't rattle.

Now tonight, the children of the household are doing karaoke on a really crude machine with heavy echo and are screaming "WHIP MY HAIR", and banging up and down on the floor.

I started blasting "I Fucked a Sasquatch" on my laptop and when that didn't work, picked up a guitar and started singing it really loud in return, but that also didn't work.

I had to waste my time calling our neighborhood security, who I'm guaranteeing aren't going to do anything. Next is gonna be the manager's office since it's now a violation of the agreement they had to sign to move in.

It's not like I give two shits about people having a good time, but at acceptable levels. I cut the volume of the music I play in my house to not bother my neighbors, why can't they do the same? i can at least see it happening once or twice by mistake, not five or six times.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)

have you tried just knocking on their door and talking to them?

tehresa, Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

the one time i did nobody answered cos they couldn't hear it

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:46 (thirteen years ago)

Man, it's hard being a music lover and living in those close quarters!

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Colored on TV! (Mount Cleaners), Sunday, 25 March 2012 03:58 (thirteen years ago)

yay they stopped.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

(last night, not just now)

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)

My neighbors have loud parties all of the time, fortunately none of them play bad music. Which is probably deeply hypocritical. We don't live in the safest area, though and it makes us feel safer on a weekend night. Calms our pets down too so they don't freak out at night.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Colored on TV! (Mount Cleaners), Sunday, 25 March 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

Hypocritical of me, I mean. When I play punk records I don't play them very loud. I mean, I checked first to see if you could hear the punk records in the street before turning the volume up.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Colored on TV! (Mount Cleaners), Sunday, 25 March 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)

My new neighbours are chain smokers. I guess there are gaps around some of the plumbing in our building because now our bathroom reeks of stale cigarette smoke all the time.

smash williams, Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

four years pass...

what is an acceptable time to go over and bang on your neighbors walls for being too loud?

midnight? 1 AM?

, Sunday, 8 January 2017 13:29 (nine years ago)

10pm on weeknights
12am on weekends

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 8 January 2017 13:58 (nine years ago)

An 11:30pm warning round is also fine imho

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 8 January 2017 14:00 (nine years ago)

id have said 11 on weeknights and prob 2am weekends

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2017 14:21 (nine years ago)

loudmouth darraghmac

, Sunday, 8 January 2017 14:34 (nine years ago)

does the fact that they're 30 year olds playing beer pong with actual ping pong paddles change your analysis

, Sunday, 8 January 2017 14:35 (nine years ago)

Depends on how loud they are imho. I've loads of probs w my noisy idiot neighbor. If he's absolutely blasting his dumbass music for longer than 30 mins that's enough for me to go bang on his window again.

There's not an 'acceptable' time if their recidivist noise makers imho. If it lasts longer than 30 mins I'm going after it, however early or late it is.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 8 January 2017 14:45 (nine years ago)

11 on weeknights is the accepted standard, yeah

Number None, Sunday, 8 January 2017 15:41 (nine years ago)

how the hell do you play beer pong with ping pong paddles

Neanderthal, Sunday, 8 January 2017 15:41 (nine years ago)

(not that I ever got those games to begin with - if you wanna drink a beer just do it!)

Neanderthal, Sunday, 8 January 2017 15:42 (nine years ago)


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