There was of course, when Stryker (who rocked, by the way. I mean, granted, he stole his name from a lame Mortal Kombat character, but he was in 'Nam!) rounded up the mutant children and put them in a cell (read: camp)
Then there also some subtler stuff that maybe only I picked up on. Like where Jene Grey used her powers to part a giant mass of oncoming water, and died in the proccess, and the next scene was of Night Crawler holding a cross and praying. That HAD to represent something.
Anybody else notice anything?
― David Allen, Sunday, 4 May 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Or "The homosexual problem" or "The negro problem"? Or "The [insert minority here] problem"?I always thought Xmen had themes about intolerance in general, not any specific intolerance.
― webber (webber), Sunday, 4 May 2003 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Allen, Sunday, 4 May 2003 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Allen, Sunday, 4 May 2003 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)
That was unfocused, but it doesn't matter, because really the X-Men aren't a patch on the Inhumans. I am always harping on this when the subject of comics comes up but the Inhumans, Man-Thing, and Ghost Rider all had the X-Men beat on the I'm-on-this-earth-but-I'm-not-of-it schtick.
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 4 May 2003 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 4 May 2003 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 4 May 2003 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 4 May 2003 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Adolescence, race, queer issues, military conspiracy, the nature of faith in a confusing world, the nature of identity as isolationist versus assimalationist, martyrdom, the Oedipus conflict, superheros as americas defense, the uses and abuses of the psychiatric system-written like that the new X Men movie does not sound like the junk food rush expected of a summer actioner. This is selling Singer short though, he deals with all of those issues with a consummate grace, Professor Francis Xavier runs his residence as a way to bring children into their own talents and gifts. The chief villain a William Stryker, talks like Strom Thurmond used to talk about african americans, and how Rick Sanatorum talks about homosexuals. Iceman, a teenage mutant, is forced to admit this to his parents under extenuating circumstances in a scene lit and written like a pitch perfect parody of coming out, most of the third act in the plot takes place in an abandoned army research facility in Northern Alaska. Nightcrawler, is seen praying the rosary when confused, isolates himself in a church, goes through a steel wall thanks to the lords prayer and comforts everyone at the end with the King James translation of the twenty-third psalm. Pyro, a close friend of Iceman, is frustrated by the non violent resistance of the X Men and joins Magneto who hates humanity and wished to destroy it, at the end Jean Grey dies so they can leave Alaska, Wolverine, who has the subplot about finding who he is ending up with him as the son of Stryker. In admist of all of this their is the involvement of the X Men and Magnetos followers with the president. In the midst of these plots, subplots, allegorical readings, myth founding and laying down history for the rest of the franchises, their are comic moments (when Iceman tells his mother he is a mutant, she replies ""Haven't you tried just...not being a mutant?"), product placements (Wolverine drinks Dr Pepper), action sequences choreographed with a hong kong grace (A woman is found to be the other person with adamite claws, violence ensues) The movie is also directed with great beauty, art direction that can show the huge variety of emotions needed. A damn crumbles catastrophically, cops approach an upper middle class home, black op soldiers raid a school and terrify children, a boy and a girl fall in love over lunch, a massive and complicated computer lets Professor X see all of humanity, an industrial research lab is built subterraneanly- all of these things are drastically different, and it takes a great director to shoot all of them with similar care and tender. This is a movie for the deep thinkers and the shallow drinkers, and it works on multiple readings, it was in many ways a painful work, and deeply honest. That honesty is told with a visual style that is not sugar coating for bitter medicine, but integral to the text. Along with Ang Lee directing the Incredible Hulk, and the zen-messiah kung fu of the Matrix, this may be the begining of a new kind of action film, one that considers the implications of its characters, and something beyond wham-bam explosions. This, I'm looking forward to.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 4 May 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 4 May 2003 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 May 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 4 May 2003 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)
(i realise that the structure and story are the same as in the comic, but I could'nt help seeing this)
― bert (bert), Sunday, 4 May 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm just wondering if they're going to make Colossus into a commie in X3.
― J (Jay), Sunday, 4 May 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Oh come on man. Man-Thing's empathy attracts him to people feeling fear, but when he touches them, they burn? Man-Thing was actually the first case of me finding something that I'd rejected & ridiculed at 12 and seeing it in a whole new light (i.e. as bitchin' and deep) at 14.
Silver Surfer design-wise will not be denied, but I think he's always been overrated as a character.
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 4 May 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 4 May 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Allen, Sunday, 4 May 2003 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)