Har Har I'm Gonna Talk About How Much I Love Meat That'll Teach These Vegetarians!

you should grow some tolerance, john !

*it bothers me zero.

Nickalicious rules.

bevo eats baton twirlers.

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you mean like this thread ---> MEAT!!! -- started by yours truly?

seriously -- there's a difference between explaining why engages in a certain behavior (which you do in yer posts re vegetarianism, John) and sloganeering spam about the same behavior (i.e., the "support a meat-free world" guy).

as fer me, i have no real ethical reason for or against meat-eating -- i eat meat because it tastes nice, and tend not to think of it otherwise. which means that i could theoretically be persuaded to vegetarianism, though if i do go that way it would probably be more for culinary reasons than ethical ones. and as it is, i do avoid some kinds of meat -- like pork -- but for health reasons (and a phobia, because i once saw a tv documentary of some guy who ate bad pork and they ended up pulling a really long worm outta his intestine because of his eating the rancid pork!)

Ryan upthread is OTM, you actually make me want to tease you like yr my little sister or something. My gawd.

well, i hate them. who gave them the right not to eat dead animals? bastards!

"i think that some of their thoughts on the subject are a little utopian..."

yeah, heh-heh, reminds me of those crazy-ass people who wanted to give (snicker) women the right to vote...or the bleeding hearts who wanted to abolish slavery...when are people ever going to learn that it's impossible to change the way things are?

"...i.e., society at large isn't gonna give up eating burgers and ribs;"

no, society at large (codetalk for obese persons?) won't...only people who are tired of getting bypass surgery, like dick cheney. 'I'LL GIVE UP MY BABY BACK RIBS WHEN YOU PRY THEM FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!' (slogan of n.m.a., the national meateaters' association lobbying group)

anyhow, vegetarianism/veganism was a passing fad. each year there are fewer and fewer of them. heck, you can't even find tofu or soymilk in health food stores anymore.

Not really.

aaarghh....nicole, please tell me what exactly in my post made me out to have a 'judgemental and ignorant attitude'... ('ignorant attitude', what does that even mean?)

also, maybe you find my posts obnoxious, fine, but this is at least the third time that you have personally insulted me/made some nasty comment directed specifically to me, when i have never, ever attacked you or anyone else personally in this forum. what is the deal?

for the record, i've met veg people in real life who were very lovely and also some who were total assholes. same with meateaters. making ad hominem attacks/judgements has nothing to do with the issue at hand...

Which is exactly what you did. Re-read your original post.

Dan, it's not just howling extremists who find parallels between the three isms you cite.

Every week, however, his heart in his mouth, he watched The Animal Kingdom. Graceful animals like gazelles and antelopes spent their days in abject terror while lions and panthers lived out their lives in listless imbecility punctuated by explosive bursts of cruelty. They slaughtered weaker animals, dismembered and devoured the sick and the old before falling back into a brutish sleep where the only activity was that of the parasites feeding on them from within. Some of these parasites were hosts to smaller parasites, which in turn were a breeding ground fir viruses. Snakes moved among the trees, their fangs bared, ready to strike at bird or mammal, only to be ripped apart by hawks. The pompous, half-witted voice of Claude Darget, filled with awe and unjustifiable admiration, narrated these atrocities. Michel trembled with indignation. But as he watched, the unshakable conviction grew that nature, taken as a whole, was a repulsive cesspit. All in all, nature deserved to be wiped out in a holocaust--and man's mission on earth was probably to do just that.

I LOVE Chess. Too bad I have no one to play it with. :,(,

Unless you grow your own food, the cultivation, growing, processing, packaging and transporting of even the most touchy-feely of vegetarian/vegan goods entails a mastery of nature that would've been impressive to people from a hundred years ago, to say nothing of our hunter/gatherer ancestors.

I don't like to play by myself.

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Hehe

I have the album with that song. Pual Ferguson isn't the drummer though. : (

Hehe

The Killing Joke album is over.

I don't want to become a vegetarian, ever!!

The problem with the whole vegetarian debate is that it's the holier-than-thou ones that apparently speak for all of them (sometimes that is true, but sometimes that image is projected by the non-vegetarians upon the vegetarians unfairly), and everyone makes it a black-and-white issue with what's allowed to be eaten and what isn't.

Look, I'll eat a Starburst candy if I want to. That has gelatin. That's just as bad as rennet or even flesh. it's just a matter of degrees to me, not a list of vegetarian commandments that I have to follow. As long as I don't go around condemning other people's diet choices (and I do not do that), then who cares what I eat or what you eat. We each make our choices.

I feel kind of bad for bitchily reviving this thread, but Kenan's smug "you vegetarians can't *possibly* get the same pleasure out of your fag food that i get out of my meat" argument really got under my skin today. I'm a vegetarian of seven years; I love to cook, I love food, wine and beer, I consider myself pretty handy in the kitchen, and after a simple but delicious stir fry with marinated tempeh tonight, I came upon this thread, which made me seethe.

Being vegetarian forces you (well, encourages you) to be more creative in finding balanced meals. I would not have discovered so much wonderful Indian, Mediterranean, Thai, Ethiopian, etc. food were it not for my vegetarianism. And I certainly would not have learned to cook at a fairly early age. My passion for food has a lot to do with my being vegetarian; what seemed once like constraints have opened a lot of doors.

I think this is very key! There's such a wide range of stuff you can swiftly learn to appreciate, even if you are not vegetarian like myself but have friends like the good DB who are. Mind you, when I extolled the Ethiopian veg dishes I had had to Nitsuh, he reacted (in mock outrage but still) with a note that apparently the meat is more essential/expected than you might think.

(Ironically, the whole "fag food" line is funny, because I don't know a single gay friend of mine who isn't a ravenous carnivore.. in fact, they are the ones who give me the most shit and lame arguments against me being a vegetarian if anybody ["psssh.. why are you such a picky eater? You know that's bad for you.".. oh, don't get me started] ... but I think that's just my weird circle of friends.)

(I'll also add the the 5% of the time that meat essences and smells have indeed made my mouth water, they have occurred mostly when I was in an Ethiopian restaurant, so Nitsuh has a point)

Hahaha

You only need to deny me twice more, DB, and then that cock will be crowing.

DB was OTM about holier-than-thou-ness, though: I won't eat a Starburst or cheese that I know has rennet in it, but if I don't know, I don't worry about it. No reason to stress out.

Er.

Let the crowing commence!

I'm a vegetarian, and most of what I cook doesn't involve fake meat at all--lots of pulse/grain combinations, lots of soy stuff, lots of dairy, etc. Tonight's spaghetti-and-veggieballs notwithstanding.

no shit. it amazes me how wound up people get about meat-eating. i currently eat fish but when i'm in veg/vegan mode i usually avoid mentioning it, because lots of folks seem to take it as a personal attack and launch into spiels about how meat is tasty, ethical, healthy, blah blah. I DON'T CARE. EAT WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT. unless requested i would never give anyone a lecture about the benefits of soy, so please extend the same courtesy to me.

C'mon bro get with the sweetest meat.

-- vaginatarian (cunni(at)ling.us)

I think it's one of the best posts ever to appear here. Thanks.

boy, someone was angry in 2003.