How long is a generation?

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I used to say 25 years, but now I think it may be shorter.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Neil Howe and William Strauss, who have done a lot of research on U.S. generations, break the 20th century into the following categories:

G.I Generation: 1901 to 1924
Silent Generation: 1925 to 1942
Boomer Generation: 1943 to 1960
13er Generation (Gen. X): 1961 to 1981
Millenial Generation (Gen. Y): 1982 to 2003

Which is an average of 20 years per generation.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

How long are marketing cycles?

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"Silent Generation" = uh, we couldn't think of a stupid catchphrase.

Haha Mr. Diamond OTM.

amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I should also note, "a lot of research" != "good, well-argued books." I have no problem with pop sociology (I like David Brooks), but for as important as Howe & Strauss seem to think their work is, it could do without the cutesy chapter titles, "Straight Dope"-style cartoons, and "USA Today"-style infographics.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Characteristics of millenial generation, I'm guessing, are a rapidly increasing dependence on and interest in technology in daily life. I was thinking how different my own life is than it was, say, 10 years ago. Pre-internet seems like a diff generation to me.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

(Annoyed only because I think it's a potentially fascinating research topic.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, dleone, my 42-year-old office mate is always amazed that I grew up with computers, instead of learning them in college. But the extent to which I "grew up with" computers was that my parents bought an MS-DOS system when I was 7 or 8, and we weren't online until I was 16. (I'm 24 now.) So I can hardly imagine kids who've always had Internet access.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

They brought computers into our 4th grade class (Apple II's, this was probably around '83) -- and I quickly learned BASIC and making little pictures move around and such. But somewhere along the line, I got out of it, and I remember in '93 or '94 seeing some kid in the dorms with the internet, and thinking it was pretty neat. And even then, I didn't really start using the internet for a couple of years.

The only reason I'm not totally sure the internet launched a new generation is because in general, people don't seem that much smarter to me. ;)

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

jaymc:

Are you absolutely sure about those generational numbers? Because I thought there was a "War Baby" generation that consisted of people born between 1941 - 1945, and that the "Baby Boomers" didn't come into effect until 1946. Also, I could've sworn I read in a ca. 2000 article in "American Demographics" that "Gen X"'s youngest were born in 1976 and that "Gen Y" started with those born in 1977. I even looked up a recent news piece on ABCNews.com that seems to back up that year as the earliest year for "Generation Y".

I know I definitely don't feel as though I belong under the category of "Generation X", nor do I feel that my parents were anything other than "War Babies" who certainly didn't get the cultural advantages the "Baby Boomers" got.

At any length, the, er, length of a "generation" seems to be purely dependent on historical and social factors. Some generations seem to last only a few short years; other generations seem to last a couple of decades. Just my personal observations, of course.

Dee the Semi-Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Strauss and Howe = interesting, but didn't they base a great deal of their conclusions off the Bible and astrological charts as well as hard sociological research?

justin s., Wednesday, 7 May 2003 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Hrm I had always vaguely placed myself in the genX category (only very tenously though) and I was born in 1971. To me such generational constructs are more to do with marketing and trends than actual birth years. Certainly nowdays anyhow.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 03:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Justin, the two books I've read don't mention any Biblical/astrological stuff, but I wouldn't put it past them!

Dee, I think there's naturally going to be a lot of variation on those dates. I just used Howe & Strauss because they're the most prominent "experts" in the field.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I remain convinced that this is all complete nonsense.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Hrmmm. Very interesting. But remember that the basic sociological unit is a "cohort" rather than a generation. (Trying to remember exactly what a cohort is - I think it's four or five years on either side of you - basically someone you could have been at high school with.)

Because actual geneological generations are getting *longer* - people tend to have kids in their late 20's or early 30's now - while cultural generations are speeding up, as technology progresses faster.

kate, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking about this the other day. I was thinking about 10 or so years in cultural terms, and that may only be a recent thing though. The probaly is its very hard to draw firm lines. 20 woul be good from a biological sense, it that that's how a generation has to be to start procreating in this day and age, more or less.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)


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