On the alternately terrifying and incomprehensible diagrams created for the Total Information Awareness program.

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Are these as sinister as they appear to be? Or does their obscurity merely suggest a bunch of bureaucrats desperate for a place in the military-industrial leadership sexing up their mundane proposals with language borrowed from A.I. and avant-B.S. (that's "business school")?

http://www.darpa.mil/iao/images/TIA_graphic.gif

http://www.darpa.mil/iao/images/babylon_ppt3.gif

http://www.darpa.mil/iao/images/EELD_ppt2.gif

http://www.darpa.mil/iao/images/genisys_ppt1.gif

http://www.darpa.mil/iao/images/genoa_ppt3.gif

http://www.darpa.mil/iao/images/WAE_ppt2.gif

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The second to last is my favorite.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought these brodys got their funding cut?

hstencil, Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

that's what they want you to think--they're actually watching you...right...now...!

slothrop (dhadis), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

that's what they want you to think--they're actually watching you...right...now...!

HELLO ECHELON!
http://www.stop-fascism.org/images/oia.GIF

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha look where that beam of light is pointing!

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

we must never again let powerpoint fall into the hands of the government.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I like those half-assed blobby things in the first one.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the useless Uranium model in the third one.

jm (jtm), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

the second one is a total waste of space! [all facets of picture]= "it's a translator"

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I see graphics like this all the time in proposals. You can always tell whan a proposal author has come from government -- he or she seems to think that Powerpoint shows and snazzy graphics make a lame argument look more substantial. But in the third slide didn't they have any clip art of people dressed for manual rather than office work?

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the iPod garnished with scary-green-colored molded plastic that serves as the "Babylon" prototype.

Also is it possible to make heads or tails of that last diagram in under 72 hours?

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

And why is "Warning" capitalized? And why is "Analytical Process" marginalized?

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I like how in the third one, the lathe operator is made a female for some reason. Even when you are turning your country into a police state, you have to be poltically correct.

Also, that is not a Uranium model, whatever it is. I think its supposed to represent netwerks of terrorist contacts, or something.

fletrejet, Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

the second to last one is perfect! close one eye and allow your other eye to go all blurry, and voila! a mushroom cloud.

jennpb (jennpb), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)

My gut instinct: if the government thinks we need PowerPoint presentations to stop terrorists from blowing up New York City, we are soooo fucked.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i love diagrams

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Church Of The Sub-Genius to thread!

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Friday, 9 May 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

These would all make great T-shirts.

adam (adam), Friday, 9 May 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Jim: haw haw haw. (or was that an unintentional gag?)

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 May 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread scares me, yet I am laughing my arse off. Maybe thats their PLAN! OK now I'm even more worried.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 May 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

no, completely intentional

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 9 May 2003 02:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The Designers Republic bid too high.

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Colecovision!

JesseFox (JesseFox), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

And why is "Analytical Process" marginalized?

Amateurist, do you know anything about America?

teeny (teeny), Friday, 9 May 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I prefer to think of it as margarinized.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I know I'm supposed to laugh at a joke about American not being analytical or something, but I actually don't see how this is true at all.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a crush on that hott lathe operator.

Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm gonna hit it one by one. I see these all the time and I understand them now (no worries - this kind of stuff gets talked about but never implemented, at least not while it's still relevant or 'useful' in the environment)

1. Actually this makes perfect sense to me. I don't see what's so perplexing about it. The only 'new' thing about it is putting the "collaborative multi-agency working environment" in there. HAHA WHATEVER DUDE. I like the repeated use of 'options' in these things - it's meant to symbolize the various ways to go and stop terrorists, but when I look at it I think 'a. axe b. bomb c. lasers from space'

2. This is another DARPA project that has nothing to do with TIA really. They already have a laptop that sorta does this for Serbo-Croatian and it's in the field. Yes, voice recognition and xlation w/ synthesis. Yes, we live in the future.

3. This is an example of the kind of behavior patterns that the advanced analytical engines are supposedly going to be able to recognize and follow, from gabillions of tabulated gigabytes of raw data. HAHA WHATEVER DUDE. I hope you have fun with all that contract money, though. Can I get a slice of that?

4. Once again I don't know what's so confusing about this one. "Transactions" = fone calls & txtmsgs & email & chat, goes into big fat unrestricted DBs, is filtered by prewritten 'queries' that find the juicy bits and then everybody looks at it and then I suppose whatever they produce "Uncle Mogo's gonna do sumthin BAYAD" goes into another database and sits there to wait for a postmortem congressional inquiry. I added a little bit of my own presumptions there.

5. Once again 'options': I'll shoot the Mac-10.

Virtual collaborative environment = that thing I laughed at in #1
Structured argumentation = "arguments" here I think refers to indications of activity that would not be readily apparent without, say, a policy axe to grind. Who knows or cares what they really mean.
Corporate Memory = an institution documents and records everything so it doesn't make the same mistakes over and over. Once again, I've never seen this pulled off and I doubt I ever will, in the private or public sector. Fuck off wasting my time with this shit.
Knowledge Discovery = what it sounds like. In high school we called in learning.
I have to admit the arrows in this one are a little disturbing and backwards, at least the way I always learned the "Intelligence Cycle" went the other way.

Okay, the big one. Amateurist is going to owe me a beer at least.

6. The green square called 'Development' encompasses all the things that need to be done to develop a model for terrorist behavior. Past observed behavior is compiled, plus information on why they did it and what they were trying to get across when they did it (motivational & intent signatures respectively). Then it moves on to 'Operations' where you use the historical info to build prevention and warning models that are overlaid on to 'all source information input' (those big fat databases we saw earlier). The results of this complex data mining are used to generate projections about terrorist activity (attack/no attack = do something now/stare at it a little longer) and then this info gets passed on to 'Options' AGAIN or if it looks spooky but not immediately threatening we analyze it further (the 'analytical process' and 'intervention options' boxes here are like having a little box in the corner of the ATP cycle (remember biology) labeled "muscle activity."
The 'motivation' box and 'support information operations' bits are about PSYOP basically. If you know why somebody wants to blow himself up at a bus station (eg he's a second class citizen with no job, no prospects and little education and he believes that stuff about the virgins) then you can attempt to perform a 'hearts and minds' type thingee where you make him content to never put on that fancy plastique belt.

I think that covers everything really. I think the mushroom cloud one is easily the stupidest and/or most disturbing. I doubt anybody really understands that besides the guy who made it, and he's evidently confused himself.

Millar (Millar), Friday, 9 May 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I am dumbstruck. By getting the point, Millar, you have missed the point entirely.

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, right, because the point hasn't been made, several million times, by other very intelligent people everywhere else all over the world. Why would I need to make that point again? Give me a little fucking credit, please?

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I'm sorry let me fall into lockstep with everybody else. God forbid we have an informed debate versus everyone slapping each other on the back and repeating the same tired jokes.

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Say that fucking Echelon one again. It's good stuff.

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember when this thread was v. funny

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar I kiss you. Or alternately I can buy you a beer if there ever is an "Amateurist visits NYC" FAP.

You're right that with a little staring these become moderately comprehensible (some, like the translator one, are disturbing precisely because they are so obvious)--what's funny is the levels of euphemism and doublespeak, which I see you find it easier to navigate than I (a skill that will no doubt help your job prospects if you end up in the private sector).

I also like how the charts seem overly labyrinthine, like they took a simple structure like a half-circle and twisted it around until it looked like a double helix crossed with reindeer antlers--as if their very obscurity will be daunting enough to encourage people to put money in DARPA's lap. Or just scare people, I dunno.

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 10 May 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a matter of occupational terminology. I don't, honestly, think that the purpose of these terms is to confuse- for my supes and my supe-supes et al. I'm sure this makes some degree of sense. If you were to read an anatomical diagram of the body, or go check some pathological data on various bacteria, I doubt you'd find it any less impenetrable. Note that specific discussion of infectious diseases shares a great deal of the same characteristics.

At the same time I want to reiterate the point that these systems are quite unlikely to be implemented in the near future. It's taken long enough to deal with current tech standards - 802.11 et al. I doubt that any such mechanism will be in place and be useful to anyone, for 'security' purposes or otherwise, until long after Bush2 has reached his term limit.

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 06:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes but you've explained what they're talking about quite clearly. The pathological data of bacteria is a complicated topic, I think, and not easy to get across to someone who doesn't have the background.

But the things you're describing aren't really that difficult to grasp, and yet they're being presented in overblown and unclear ways. I mean, the "knowledge discovery" lingo aside, those arrows do not point in sane directions, and the slides are far, far too cluttered and busy.

I should go on but I'm tired and have suddenly lost all my energy.

Chris P (Chris P), Saturday, 10 May 2003 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I have nothing to do with the US military or political areas, but I see diagrams that aren't much more comprehensible than this in my area, computing. I get brochures for some product or other with all these grotesque ways of representing what are often reasonably simple points, when rendered in text form.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 10 May 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

A translator machine doohickey called "Babylon"? That is not very righteous. Haile Selassie would not approve.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin - most of these diagrams were probably cooked up by gearheads. I've seen the computerworld versions too. It's all some kind of 21st century pop-art, if you ask me. I would definitley get #3 as a back tattoo if I were cool and had the money.

Nate - everything you say comes out in a foreign language AND it has a tape-delay simulator.

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I know I'm supposed to laugh at a joke about American not being analytical or something, but I actually don't see how this is true at all.

Sorry, my mistake, I read your inital comment as 'margarinized'...and maybe (unlike me) most people don't do their best thinking whilst hunkered down in front of E! smashing a stick of margarine into the sugar bowl and licking it clean.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 10 May 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm one degree away from a coast guard recruit who shoved a stick of frozen butter into his own ass.

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't knock it till you've tried it, Millar.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 10 May 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes but in the interest of fairness, don't try it until you've knocked it. I mean you have to first go "that's crazy!" but then the idea of sweet creamery butter stays in your head until you have no choice but to actually go for it. Eventually you realize that you have a frozen stick of butter up your ass and then at some later point you get really drunk and tell everyone and suddenly you become the guy who put the frozen stick of butter up his ass. And then someone else hears about it and knocks it but can't get it out of his head... it's the circle of life.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 11 May 2003 06:30 (twenty-two years ago)

(Oh please oh please baby Jesus will you inspire Chris V. or Sean C. to make a convoluted diagram out of that last post.)

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 11 May 2003 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)


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