Weird stereotypes: Where do they come from? Do they seem to have evidence?

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Some weird stereotypes I have encountered:

Women who wear jewelry made of Black Hills Gold are salty old bitches.

French Canadians like baseball.

There are others I can't remember. Is this just a regional thing? Where did these ideas come from? Can you share any examples?

Fivvy (Fivvy), Friday, 9 May 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The Irish, they like to drink: very true.
The Irish, they like to fight: utterly baffling.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 9 May 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"Chinese people are made out of candy."
this comes from Louis CK, in his comedy bit about how there should be positive, though equally ignorant, racial stereotypes.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't forget that Mexicans can fly!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 9 May 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I would like to take this opportunity to be perfectly unreasonable.

People from East Texas are idiots. The whole drawling, drooling lot of them are dumb as a bag of foreskins and should be fucking shot. Starting, perhaps, with all my Aunts and Uncles on Gramma's side. Let's stop prison overcrowding. Kill my relatives.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

People from Wigan have only two interests: pies and rugby.

Actually, that's true.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe we should have a "stereotypes that you yourself defy." Like for me it would be Jewish people have lots of money. Wrong! Or skinny people are in good shape. Nope!

bnw (bnw), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

or the old "tall people are good at basketball" one for me

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"kissing a smoker is like kissing an ashtray" no ashtray does tongue action like me.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

French Canadians like baseball? I've never heard this one, and I live amongst the French Canadians. (I mean, maybe they like baseball fine, but you'd think the Expos wouldn't be expiring so painfully if they did)

slutsky (slutsky), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't defy a stereotype because I don't belong to a single group. Well, except maybe the "mutts are smart" stereotype.

hstencil, Friday, 9 May 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

but you'd think the Expos wouldn't be expiring so painfully if they did
Western Cdn stereotype response: Them thar frogs are just used to getting everything from the Federal Gov't's coffers. They love baseball, but they don't wanna PAY for it, unless it comes out of transfer payments.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

People what gotz brown eyez gotz brown eyez cuz they'z full of shit.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

that poor people don't have money.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Mormons have devil horns...WTF??? Or they sacrifice rabbits?

Fivvy (Fivvy), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

People what gotz blue eyez gotz blue eyez cuz they'z full of blueberriezz.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

White guys have gi-normous penises. I disprove this popular myth.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I have ginormous penises!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I have several as well.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Mormons have horns? I thought that was the Jews.

rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

by ginormous, I assume you're referring to the cauliflower-like growth?
In which case...

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i have the cock of an ox.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I saw Fear Factor the other night too.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Now they're eating ox cock on Fox? Where will it end?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

In a box?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, nevermind. That's on NBC, isn't it? Joke ruined, life over.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

but sometimes they have a fox (like the all-Playmates edition) eating ox cocks in box with locks.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe we should have a "stereotypes that you yourself defy"

I must refer my learned colleague to my earlier missive.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe you were just so drunk that you forgot all your fights.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

When you look at the black race, black people are very gifted in what we call worship and celebration. A lot of us like to dance, and if you go to black churches, you see people jumping up and down, because they really get into it.

White people were blessed with the gift of structure and organization. You guys do a good job of building businesses and things of that nature and you know how to tap into money pretty much better than a lot of people do around the world.

Hispanics are gifted in family structure. You can see a Hispanic person and they can put 20 or 30 people in one home. They were gifted in the family structure.

When you look at the Asians, the Asian is very gifted in creation, creativity and inventions. If you go to Japan or any Asian country, they can turn a television into a watch. They're very creative. And you look at the Indians, they have been very gifted in the spirituality.

When you put all of that together, guess what it makes. It forms a complete image of God. God made us different because he was trying to create himself. He was trying to form himself, and then we got kind of knuckleheaded and kind of pushed everything aside.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It is clear though, than when we form God, like Voltron, which is popular with the kids and what-have-you, that the white people are the head. People keep forgetting that. People need to remember.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Mr. Diamond sounds like Dubya, except for the last part.

hstencil, Friday, 9 May 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking Ross Perot, if you include the last part. Especially if you throw Voltron in. And then he'd show a chart ("Voltron" / "God") and maybe some action figures, and they'd fight.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Unfortunately I cannot claim authorship of that bit of wisdom, it was from the mouth of former Green Bay Packers defensive end Reggie White.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, good ol' Reverend Reggie.

hstencil, Friday, 9 May 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

20 or 30 people in one home is a spiritual capability, or a clown car ability?

Fivvy (Fivvy), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

It's all about "structure." Hispanics know how to stack bodies like cannonballs for maximum space efficiency.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

ASIATIC
Asians are pretty cool. Only half of them can handle booze but they all have perfect toes. Some of the older Chinese people can be really mean when you're just asking a simple question but that's just because they are a more confrontational culture. Like the Jews or the French they are just arguing and you shouldn't take it personal. The Chinese refer to white people (Americans mostly) as 'fat and sentimental,' which is basically true.
Japanese people are basically the best race. The women are babes and the men are incredibly smart. Want a computer invented? Ask a Japanese guy. Want to see a babe? Ask a Japanese lady.
Koreans are pretty bad, especially the communists. Lots of war has made them ruthless, and it's perfectly normal to have your ass whipped right off your body for talking in class. Note that the worst Asians are still better than the best Micronesians. One of the few bad things with Asians, especially Chinese, is that they think sleeping is an indulgence and drink tea 24 hours a day to stay awake and that leads to general craziness.

INDIAN
These guys are pretty smart and resilient (see Gandhi starring Ben Kingsley). The women are also babes (except for the occasional fuzzy one) and the guys make good doctors. Unlike black people they CAN sunburn, which is a problem because a lot of Canadian ones will go down to Mexico and act all tough and then get fried (they go kind of purple). They used to stink but they don't anymore.

AFRICAN
Blacks tend to have sickle-shaped blood cells, which is fine in hot temperatures where your blood is thin but can lead to trouble in colder places where the thicker blood cells will stick to each other and cause sickle-cell anemia. Another thing about them is that their heels tend to be right angles instead of bulging out at the back like normal.
In 1974 John R. Baker broke down the Africans into two categories: Sanids (Bushmen) and Negrids. This is too complicated. There are way too many different kinds to understand. In America, for example, there are the hard-working, educated ones that are even better than white people. They do all the good things that good white people do but they are less hokey and can party. The bad American ones are fucking scary and are rarely discussed. Abroad the same pattern follows but more exaggerated. In Africa the nice ones are so educated they invent entire cultures. The bad ones, however, would eat the bad American ones alive. If you've ever seen how fearless a Zimbabwean gas attendant is during the night shift in the heart of Queens you know what we're getting at. They are used to watching lions eat their friends so it's like 'bring it on.'
The rest of the places - West Indies, Barbados, Jamaica - are just fun-loving jolly people with rich and interesting accents.
Incidentally, mulattos have an incredible metabolism. The same way a purebred dog is a weak one, mulattos take the best of being white and the best of being black and make a person that is smarter and fitter. The only drawback is the increased metabolism means more B.O. (see any Lenny Kravitz party).
Here's another weird thing. They have this rule where if you have a drop of black blood you're black. That means Arabs are black. However, Arabs are Semites like Jews, so Jews are black' They became white after moving to Europe so I guess they're mulatto. Mediterranean people like Italians are kind of mulatto too. There should be a new category here called HYBRIDS but fuck it.

AMERICAN INDIAN
These people used to be really cool but are basically fucked now. They used to only have to work 15 hours a week for food and shelter and therefore still love sleeping. Another interesting thing about them is that they have weird earwax. It is powdery and not waxy at all.
Soon there will be no American Indians because they will have been killed via disease and 'culture smushing' by the white man (see bottom of chart).
Eskimos also fit into this category. They are capable of much lower temperatures than other races (duh).

POLYNESIAN, MICRONESIAN, MELANESIAN
These are basically Spanish Asians. That's why they're brown. Polynesians are the lightest of these tropical island people and Melanesians are almost black. So black, in fact, that they used to be considered abbos.
These three races include all those island people like Hawaiian and Seychelles people'the ones who wear hula skirts and can kill you with a blow dart. They are incredibly agile (note how all DMC champions are Philippino).

EUROPEAN
White people are a funny bunch. Many Asians will note, upon their arrival to America, that 'white people smell like hamburger.' They did very well a few hundred years ago but are kind of over now. At best the good ones will own a lawn care company (or something) and like the Who, but they are drastically outnumbered by the bad ones. Unlike other races the bad ones fall into two groups. There are the rich ones: Jack Welch, Dick Cheney, and the like. These men would let the whole world sink into the sea if it meant another SUV for their daughter. The other kind is called white trash. They would sell their baby for crack no problem. Many use the phrase 'good while it lasted' when discussing this group.

AUSTRALIAN (ABBO)
Not exactly killing shit as far as the babe population goes. Almost extinct thanks to white people, the abbos haven't been doing well for about 500 years now. One weird characteristic about abbos is that they have this point in their life called a 'walkabout' where, sometime around 18 years of age, they will just start walking and walking and walking. They leave all their stuff and start a new life when they get to wherever it is they end up walking to but they all do it and nobody knows why.


As already quoted once by Ramosi, the above is from Vice's pretty funny guide to the races. http://www.viceland.com/issues/v9n2/htdocs/the_vice_guide.php

N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"white people smell like hamburger" - HA!

(I find this funny cuz I was sweating a lot last night and somebody told me my BO smelled like ganja and roast beef)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

My mom says, "It is a secret among blacks that, to them, white people smell like dogs when wet." She acts so proud for knowing this! But I am anosmic and white and would not know.

Fivvy (Fivvy), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, it's true. Black people say that white hair goes "sour" in the rain. And that they have caveman necks.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i am a dumb Polack. so's that entire side of the family.

Tad (llamasfur), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

all races seem to think all other races smell funny.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I think horse races smell funny.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Wacky Races is pretty funky too

stevem (blueski), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I personally stink when wet. And my neck is pretty gross.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone from Liverpool has a heart as big as the Mersey, and a great sense of humour. And they're salt of the earth, them.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

asians do drive like shit and are too submissive. except for me. I drive like a ninja on speed and will whip anyone into being my bitch.

Carey (Carey), Friday, 9 May 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

that's yr non-Asian side obviously

oops (Oops), Friday, 9 May 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

(When I first heard the Jews have horns thing as a young tyke, I'd sometimes wake up early and be totally disappointed that I was hornless.)

bnw (bnw), Friday, 9 May 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah my non asian side is polish so that isn't doing me anything.

Carey (Carey), Friday, 9 May 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Polish people are excellent drivers. Where do you think the term 'Pole Position' came from?

oops (Oops), Friday, 9 May 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't there a country near the equator where people have only one leg with an enormous foot which they use to shade themselves from the midday sun (when lying on their backs)?

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 9 May 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"In Bavaria a man without a beer gut is considered a cripple." - This is true.
"The Austrian national sport is sneering." - This is true.
"Men from the Rhineland wear funny moustaches." - The older ones like to, yes.
"Palatinates shout at everyone but no-one understands them." - Not true. They don't shout at strangers and they understand each other perfectly.
"Hessians are easily scared and suffer from logorrhoea." - This is true.
"At the North Sea the land is flat, the water is wet and the humour is dry." - This is true.
"Berlin people are mocking but good-natured." - I'm not so sure about the good-natured part.

Frühlingsmute (Wintermute), Friday, 9 May 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's a stereotype I'm proud to have come up with myself:

NYC: death metaller = Mexican or Puerto Rican

Can't remember the last time I saw any other ethnicity with long hair, headphones and a Deicide t-shirt. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough, but I'm generally talking about on or around the subway.

Scaredy Cat, Saturday, 10 May 2003 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Stereotype-shattering behavior from me (the list is half Mexican and half Spanish, just like me):

1.  I don't like Spanish-language music.
2.  I don't watch novelas.
3.  I don't particularly care for parties, nor would I go horribly out of my way for one.
4.  I don't have a single clingy outfit in my wardrobe.
5.  I keep my hair as close to my scalp as possible and even enlist the help of hairspray to achieve this goal.
6.  I cannot stand the taste of beer, or indeed most other alcoholic beverages.
7.  You would have to pay me to agree to a picnic or a barbecue in the following months: May - September.
8.  One of the things that makes me rush to the nearest restroom is food that has too much grease in it.
9.  I love being an American, and I love speaking English. I do not want to live in some mythical land that is essentially a Mexico where Los Lobos is the most revered musical artist out there, instead of Vicente Fernandez. Nor do I actually want to live in Mexico itself.
10. I do not vote for a candidate just by party or ethnicity alone, just as I wouldn't vote for the "cutest" candidate or the one who comes from the "right" area.
11. I don't wear clothing in loud colors. Loud colors = ick.
12. I don't wear huge earrings. Huge earrings = ick, too.
13. I don't like animal printed anything. Animal prints = ick, part three.
14. I don't have this undying need to be chased by a bull, or to do battle with a bull, or even to wear a silly hat.
15. I don't have a frilly old peasant-style outfit or a frilly old gyspy-style outfit in my wardrobe, nor do I feel compelled to go out and get one.
16. I'm not too keen on the idea of eating exotic animal parts.
17. I don't use saffron in everything I make.
18. See #6 (above) for my opinion re: sangria.
19. My family does not eat a buffet of little appetizers for every one of our meals.
20. I do not shake my hips while dancing, nor would I dance to something vaguely Arabesque that requires the singer to clap his hands while singing.
21. I don't care what the Iglesias clan are doing at this moment.
22. I don't exactly keep up with ETA's or GRAPO's activities on a daily basis. (I dislike them and wish they were gone, sure. I just don't know what they did last week, if they in fact did anything.)
23. I honestly have no clue what's going on in the world of soccer (football) right now.
24. None of my relatives ever knew Pablo Picasso personally.
25. I'm not really into nightlife or the club scene.
26. The notion that any one of my male relatives might be a good lover or a "Casanova" makes me either laugh or gag.

I think that should be it.

Dee the Semi-Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 10 May 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Stereotype-shattering behavior from me (the list is half Mexican and half Spanish, just like me):

Heh. I knew this would be Dee. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Dee do you dig Morrissey?

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dutch people are really stubborn" -my dad, blaming my mom's genes for making me so obstinate

"Scottish people are really stubborn" -my mom, blaming my dad's side

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

the irish do love to fight,that's what makes dealing with town on a saturday night so shit,there's people getting rowdy everywhere

robin (robin), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, that doesn't happen anywhere else.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

one stereotype i have noticed is that the audiences of professional snooker tournaments are composed entirely of people who look like they play darts and wear man utd jerseys,and old women...

robin (robin), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

well i've been to paris,new york,florence,venice and amsterdam and none seem to be anywhere near as bad as dublin for drunk cunts starting fights
there's no comparison

robin (robin), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

come to London robin, better still London's suburban town centres - where probably only a small fraction of the drunken combatants have any Irish in 'em

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Hockey fans are totally insane!

Fivvy (Fivvy), Saturday, 10 May 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Come to Glasgow, Robin.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 10 May 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

14. I don't have this undying need to be chased by a bull, or to do battle with a bull, or even to wear a silly hat.

Dee hates fun. :(

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 10 May 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah no i am exaggerating,but it does seem to be worse in dublin
i mean i've been in london,maybe you just don't notice it so much when you're away or something
i still think the point that the stereotype of the irish always fighting is fair enough though

robin (robin), Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned said (hey, that rhymed):
Heh. I knew this would be Dee. :-)

Wow. After just 56 posts, am I predictable already? *grins*

Steve said (that did not rhyme):
Dee do you dig Morrissey?

Quite. Six feet under, in fact. Only kidding. No, I'm a fan of The Smiths/Morrissey, yes.
(What inspired you to ask that, btw?)

Curtis said:
Dee hates fun. :(

I don't. I have lots of fun. I have fun by listening to music, or by cooking, or by doing tons of other things. I'm just not crazy.

*grins once more for good measure*

Dee the Semi-Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Dee, Ned said that cause there's this huge unexplainable cult following of Morrissey among latin-american americans (mostly around the LA area, I guess), and to a lot of people it seems like a somewhat odd connection.

Dan I., Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

More like Steve said it, m'friend. ;-) To me the connection isn't odd at all!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess it's not to me either, but I can't explicitly think of a reason why that should be so... Like, what aspects of the culture does it hook into?

Dan I., Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe his type of singing? it's also hard for me to figure out why latin-americans would be into Morrissey so much.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:33 (twenty-two years ago)

My favourite, which my cousin pointed out and which I didn't believe at first - after several years of observation I can confirm that at least in my area this is true: (roughly) four out of five bad drivers turn out to be old guys wearing hats.

Poppy (poppy), Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

did Morrissey tour a lot in Mexico, or Latin America?

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

He only did his first solo tour of Central and Latin America a couple of years back. If you'd like an insight and tips for further reading, vamanos.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

And FWIW, I was at the UCI show referred to when El Moz said he wished he had been born Mexican -- it was actually the Maladjusted tour in 1997 -- and right after he said that and the crowd went nuts was when I looked around realized, "Holy fuck, not only is most of the crowd Mexican or Mexican-American, they're also all mostly about 15 to 20 years old." Since then I've quietly observed the fanaticism get even stronger, and I still think it's the most entertaining fuck-you to all the people who complained back in the eighties or early nineties that Morrissey would only ever appeal to Caucasian Anglophiles who didn't appreciate real rock and roll or whatever. Hey Dave Marsh, if you ever read this, ya bastard, how does it feel to be WRONG?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Did Anthony E not write about this aspect of Morrissey's support on Freaky Trigger not so long ago?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 11 May 2003 09:55 (twenty-two years ago)

A latino fan on telly said it was cause he was Irish (!) and in the UK, so he knew what it was like to be a Latin-American in the USA.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 11 May 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin is quite right! And I feel very bad for not linking to that -- viva.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i read about the Morrissey thing in The Face about 2 years ago

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 11 May 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

asian guys have small penises
what the hell is this? who started spreading this damn rumor? it's crippling to my game.

saul, Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)


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