hated people in britian

Blair and Thatcher taking up two thirds of the top three. John Major not showing. (!) Someone suggested that the reason the Queen was so high was that people were grudge-voting because she didn't show regret at Diana's death, which is a sad and dull thing if so. Jordan at number two, why?

Will Self really outdid himself for punchable smugness on the show, didn't he?

And I now want to kill Alex Zane, who is the most odious art-college smug hipster middle class fucknight I've ever laid eyes on.

I mean, I can understand why some of the names are on the list (e.g. Tara Palmer Tompkinson [sp?], Chris Evans, and David "LOOK AT MY CRAZY GLASSES AS I MAKE A FOOL OF MYSELF ON INTERNATIONAL TV!" Dickinson), but it really seems as though either envy or a sense of "It's really not cool to admit you actually like these people, so we're just going to vote for them to land on this list" reigns therein.

Man, I wouldn't assume ANY politician that high up in their country's respective government structure would tell the truth all the time, no matter what their political affiliation. Seems like a good defensive stance to take!

the other thing was no one in prison, hence no Archer.

i thought chappie from viz was v funny, and i'm in the pro-Self camp also.

Dee, thatcher was responsible for 18 years of pure misery in this country that cripples every public service to this day, and there will be a HUGE FUCK OFF PARTY when she dies.

The threeAM girls weren't even nearly high enough either, and Thom Yorke wasn't in the top 100, thereby making it all irrelevant.

OR DAMON ALBARN

(Hi N.)

Chris, hi! (you are probably right but just cause someone's a big enough cockfarmer to enjoy being disliked doesn't mean I'm going to like them).

"I will be speaking to my agent in the morning" cunt.

Yes, I have an opinion on most celebrity chefs.

What about that fish man?

1. Chris Eubank - The genius who spent 6 hours of Celebrity Big Brother in riding a scooter in a gold cloak and talking into the mirrors about how great he was, ignoring everyone else. Genius.

2. David Beckham - Beckham should not be near this list. And I'm a Liverpool fan.

3. Countess of Wessex - I'm sorry, Britain, but she has a life to be getting on with as well as parading a succession of tasteful hats on page six of the Daily Mail.

4. Richard Madely - Richard is a legend. He's been on camera so long he's passed caring and his massive enthusiasm for everything that comes on his show is a delight. Yes, he's ill-informed and wet. That's why we want him on telly.

5. Ant and Dec - I don't watch ITV so I still find them lovely. They released 3 of the most hideous pop albums of all time and for that they are to be exhalted forever. Bring back PJ and Duncan!

6. Peter Mandleson - For his speech when he got re-elected. The most "fuck you" thing I've seen in British politics since the great Tory Clearout when Blair got in. And remember the second time he was stitched up.

Other than that I agree with the names if not the positioning. Of course the list is a bit wet, where's Fred West, John Leslie, Gary Glitter, Nick Leeson, Dennis Nilsen . . . . it seems being annoying is worse in our nations' eyes than serious crime. How very British.

6.

Ready steady cook has had a few that I actually like, though more that I despise, such as that twunt Patrick Anthony (thankfully only ever seen on RSC)

I think I may watch too much food tv

I know what you mean about Stein, Cozen, but yes, the food always looks great (and the recipes work)

"And when you're down there, on the beach, the muscled air weedling in under your nose, and the men, with their calloused hands, stricken through with the memories of their forefathers, when you're down there you can really taste... feel... the history... the whelks in the cup of your hand, as you run your fingers through the silty sand... etc etc"

Etc.

History.

(cue hilarious laughter)

Oh man. Next you're saying to say that Reagan is going to be personally conveyed up to heaven in a golden chariot when he passes beyond the vale of tears.

This is not to say that Clinton / Blair are great people (in think, Blair sucks ass; I think only slightly better of Clinton) but there's no empirical doubt that Thatcher is a bloody liar who should be licking excrement off the cloven hooves of Satan. In my humble opinion, anyway. And I'm not even a Brit.

(If Kitchens of Distinction and Morrissey both hate you, you MUST suck.)

I also can't understand the hatred for Jordan. What's to hate? She's not the brightest, but I would've thought she'd have got a bit of sympathy after what's happened to her recently.

As a United supporter I was pleased and proud to see Alex Ferguson as the most hated man in football. (Obviously no-one could vote for Keano.) Long may he continue to wind everyone up.

That sounds about right.

Or: "This Culture Has Hit Rock Bottom".

entertainment ?

Oddly enough the Daily Mail did a similar poll last year. I actually sent them a list deliberately stuffed full of people who fitted perfectly into the DM's worldview, plus a few other genuinely evil people. Here is a slightly modified version of that list (ie I didn't include Tony Blair then but, following the Iraq episode, I will include him now). The list is in no particular order.

1. Enoch Powell
2. Harold Shipman
3. Margaret Thatcher
4. Norman Tebbit
5. Richard Littlejohn
6. Alistair Campbell
7. John Major
8. Andrew Rosindell (ultra-right-wing Essex Tory Boy and MP for Romford)
9. N*ck Gr*ff*n (leader of the B*P)
10. Osw*ld M*sl*y (former f*sc*st leader)
11. J*hn Tynd*ll (former leader of the B*P)
12. Peter Hitchens ("The Abolition of Britain", etc, etc.)
13. Thomas Hamilton (perpetrator of the Dunblane massacre)
14. Mary Whitehouse
15. Cardinal Thomas Winning (homophobic Scottish Catholic bishop)
16. Nicholas Fairbairn (obnoxious deceased Tory MP)
17. Liam Gallagher
18. Estelle Morris (particularly dislikeable NuLab character)
19. John Redwood (particularly odious Tory MP)
20. Dr Richard Beeching (destroyer of British Railways)
21. Paul Dacre (Daily Mail editor)
22. Simon Heffer (Mail columnist)
23. David English (former Mail editor)
24. Robert Henderson (racially-obsessed writer, notorious on Usenet)
25. Fred Trueman (racially-obsessed ex-cricketer idolised by Robert Henderson)
26. Stephen Pile (Torygraph hack)
27. Boris Johnson (Spectator editor and Tory MP)
28. Iain Duncan Smith (Tory leader)
29. William Hague (former Tory leader)
30. John Townend (racist ex-Tory MP)
31. Laurence Robertson (Tory MP and apologist for John Townend)
32. Christopher Gill (racist and obsessively anti-EU ex-Tory MP)
33. Teresa Gorman (see above)
34. M*rt*n W*bst*r (long-term leading member of the B*P and similar organisations)
35. Michael Ryan (perpetrator of the Hungerford massacre)
36. Christopher Martin-Jenkins (cricket commentator and journalist)
37. Graham Gooch (ex-cricketer and apologist for Apartheid South Africa)
38. Mike Gatting (as above)
39. Noel Gallagher
40. Cliff Richard
41. James Whale (the "broadcaster", not the film director)
42. Kelvin MacKenzie (ex-Sun editor and owner of TalkSport radio)
43. Cynthia Harrod-Eagles of Northwood, "Middlesex" (fanatical Redcoatandwellygraph letter writer)
44. G. St John Penney of Bishop's Castle, Shropshire (see above)
45. Paul Johnson (Mail hack)
46. David Lovibond (Spectator hack)
47. Derek (aka Derrick) Turner (editor of Right Now! magazine)
48. The Earl of Burford (demented hereditary peer who grabbed the headlines for about five minutes when he jumped on the woolsack in 1999 and claimed that the expulsion of hereditary peers from Parliament was "treason")
49. Michael Parkinson (Smellygraph hack, among other pursuits)
50. Peter Barnard (Times and Radio Times hack)
51. James Sabben-Clare (Tom Ewing's old headmaster at Winchester College)
52. Nick Tate (educationalist and another Winchester headmaster)
53. Dr Eric Anderson (educationalist and former headmaster of Eton, among other public schools)
54. Chris Woodhead (right-wing educationalist)
55. Ray Honeyford (former comprehensive school headmaster in Bradford, and a notorious supporter of racial separatism in schools)
56. Stuart Millson (ultra-right-wing member of both the Tory party and the B*P, at various times)
57. Bob Sims aka "Wotan" (a notorious ultra-right-wing Usenet character who calls people "wogs" and blames everything on the Jews. Also fond of the term "ethnocide" and considers modern TV to be "deprived racial integrationist propaganda")
58. Idris Francis (anti-EU conspiracy theorist)
59. Tony Bennett (ditto - this is, obviously, not *the* Tony Bennett)
60. E.M. Wellings (deceased cricketer)
61. Marcus Lipton (former Labour MP - "if pop music is going to be used to destroy our established institutions, then it should be destroyed first" was his reaction to the Sex Pistols, shortly before he died. And this was a *Labour* MP!!!!! Unsurprisingly he was a Communist sympathiser.)
62. Norris McWhirter (for his extreme right-wing and anti-EU conspiracy theories)
63. Ross McWhirter (ditto)
64. Rodney Atkinson (another extreme anti-EU conspiracist. Brother of Rowan, would you believe!)
65. Dr Sean Gabb (anti-EU blah blah)
66. Dr Chris R. Tame (ditto)
67. The Dowager Lady Birdwood (a leading post-war British anti-Semite who was protected too often by her Establishment connections)
68. Ian Stuart/Stewart (leader of the neo-Nazi skinhead band Skrewdriver)
69. Sarah Ferguson / Duchess of York (pointless waste of space and time)
70. Mark Thatcher (ditto)
71. Carol Thatcher (ditto)
72. Edward VIII / Duke of Windsor (Nazi apologist)
73. David Icke (mad conspiracist)
74. Tony Blair (Prime Minister and 51st State poodle)
75. Geoff Hoon (ally of the above)
76. David Yelland (editor of the Sun)
77. Trevor Kavanagh (political editor of the Sun)
78. John MacGregor (transport minister at the time of rail privatisation)
79. Jeffrey Archer (professional liar)
80. Gillian Shephard (Tory MP and apologist for the above)
81. Michael Crick (another apologist for Archer)
82. Gerald Corbett (former chief executive of Railtrack)
83. Joe Elliott (dickhead singer of Def Leppard)
84. Mike Read (hypocritical moralistic "broadcaster")
85. Dave Lee Travis (self-righteous git "broadcaster")
86. Peter Sutcliffe (the Yorkshire Ripper)
87. Myra Hindley
88. Ian Brady
89. Frederick West
90. Rosemary West
91. Dennis Nilsen
92. John Thompson (the mass murderer)
93. Nicholas Scott (Tory MP deselected in 1996 after being found, quite literally, in the gutter "pissed up on booze" at a party conference)
94. Roy Faiers (editor of This England magazine)
95. Nicholas Soames (obnoxious Tory MP)
96. Sir Patrick Mayhew (classically ill-chosen Tory Northern Ireland secretary)
97. Michael Fallon (another obnoxious Tory MP)
98. M.B. Reckitt (former chairman of the Croquet Association and outrageous snob)
99. Troy Southgate (insane pagan neo-Nazi, the very worst of the "back to the land" school crossing over with vile fascist and racial separatist views)
100. Lynda Lee-Potter (the Daily Mail incarnate)

it's true, of course, that my list was a "pure" 100 Worst Britons list while the C4 list was restricted by the usual bullshit criteria, but there are a good many people in my list (Littlejohn, Gr*ff*n, Norris McWhirter, Geoff Hoon, Estelle Morris, Paul Johnson ...) who didn't get in the C4 list and are perfectly alive and unjailed.

oh, and there is a fifth person in both our lists - Cliff Richard. but then even my mum doesn't like him that much now.

Hopefully that explains it all.

isadora -- I'm glad you like Trinny & Susannah, too. I would love to be on "What Not to Wear", but unfortunately American TV (namely, TLC) had to go and mess up that show as well (surprise, surprise), and so the two people who host the US version are total assholes whom I'd never let get near me with a 15-foot pole. Ergo, I'd have to specifically request the UK version of "What Not to Wear" and make damn sure there are two tastefully-dressed women who approach me on the streets instead of two clowns whom I'd seriously like to take a swing at.

I hold no brief for Toryboy Crick, obv. (though his work with the MUFC fans' Trust seemed broadly positive the last time I looked).

Ahhh a good old fashioned street party, bunting, jelly, cucumber sandwiches, Thatchers head on a plate.....

It is possibly I am falling for the sympathy factor here, however.

I didn't see the 'I' in this sentence and thought 'hey, what's wrong with him wanting to get to the disco?'. Mind you, is the Political Studies Association Disco any cop?

And Tim's right - he played a major part in the Man United supporters' successful fight against Murdoch's takeover of the club.

Plus he once gave me his unused return train ticket from Old Trafford back into town, saving me approximately £2.

b) Roger "state-sponsored murder of fine servants of the Royal Ulster Constabulary" Scruton - yes, of course, he's probably the most obvious omission from a list so slanted towards characters of the political Right. There are certain deliberate non-inclusions, though - two people I know were scarred for life when they were abused as children by their own father, and to include Jonathan King would somehow have suggested that famous paedophiles are worse than other paedophiles, the opposite of my own views.

c) N. - you are right. The cricket bias comes from the fact that I originally compiled the list last summer when I was grappling on both the political and cricket newsgroups with a certain Robert Henderson, a man with an odious racial separatist agenda and a particular obsession with the idea that players who are not "unequivocal Englishmen", ie white men born and raised entirely in England, should not play for England in any sport (although some of his other political views, especially his support for the principle of public services, are not that objectionable at all). If you were to read http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/stories/cricket.htm you'd understand why I included Gatting, Gooch and CMJ.

d) Martin S is dead right about Thatcher. In context, her tactics are almost like the equivalent of Blair presenting himself as an Old Labour man, and old socialists actually believing him.

e) My list was in no particular order.

Matt - the list is in no particular order, but I included Estelle Morris mainly because I didn't like her boasting that Labour had "learned to love" private education, and how great this was for the party - she just struck me as ultra-Blairite in all the worst senses. I originally compiled this list before she resigned, and she's rather fallen out of my mind since then - Tessa Jowell might be a substitute inclusion. I find them both *dislikeable* in the way I used to find Virginia Bottomley and, indeed, Gillian Shephard.

N. - yep, that's why I put the Gallaghers in. The first two names stevem listed are a) easy targets and b) have made individual songs ("For Your Babies" and "The Road To Mandalay" respectively) which I would rather listen to than, say, "Don't Look Back In Anger", the third has made far too many good songs and I don't really dislike him anyway - Alex James might possibly have been a candidate, though.