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Bush has been on the stump banging on about how he would bring American justice to the perpetrators of the suicide attacks on Western compounds in Riyadh. Now correct me if I'm wrong but surely this is outside US jurisdiction. I am increasingly worried by the our way is the only way tone of the Bush junta.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Now correct me if I'm wrong but surely this is outside US jurisdiction.

Well, it still involves the deaths of US citizens, thus the statement. (Never mind about the person who died in Israel protesting the military there...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

With every passing day I believe less and less that this shit is entirely a joke.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm sure what he mean by american justice was throwing them in a 6'x4' cell in their cuban military base – without any rights whatsoever, only allowing then out for 15minutes a week and keeping all acusees there without evidence indefinately. that'a what he must've meant.

funny how places like riyadh didn't become a problem untill recently.

― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

If the alternative is Saudi justice, than I'm sure anyone caught would much rather spend the rest of their lives in Guantanamo than be beheaded. I know I would.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

At one time "American justice" meant things like trial by jury, guilty until proven innocent, and the right to a lawyer. All that Bush means by that pharse is revenge: death, or being taken to Guantanamo to be tortured and held indefinitely w/o any outside contact.

Since 9/11/01 Al-Q have launched two major attacks. There were many, many warnings that something was going to happen in Saudi Arabia. The war on terrorism as it is now being waged in a joke.

― fletrejet, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Like I said, I'd still take Guantanamo over being beheaded.

And I don't get why y'all are surprised about something happening in Saudi Arabia. Do you not remember that Americans were killed in two separate terrorist attacks there in 1995 and 1996? And that hey bin Laden's from there, and it's the home of Wahabbism? The only thing that's keepin' Dubya and his cronies from going ape-shit is that hey we're actually pals with the Saud regime. Actually, according to that fink from the Rand Corporation, we should've invaded the kingdom already!

― hstencil, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Saudi "justice" = letting little girls burn to death in a school building cuz they didn't have on burqas, cutting off hands for shoplifting, etc, etc.

American government = all about promoting "democracy" in the Middle East, except of course for that particular MONARCHY they happen to be 'friends' (aka "deeply involved business partners") with. Oh what interesting (last) days we live in.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not suprised by attacks in saudi arabia they happen with alarming frequency, this time they won't be able to pin it on acohol smuggling turf wars.

Going to guantanamo means you can go before a military court and be executed or handed back to your own nation and er, probably be executed.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The speech is just to remind us all that we're in a WAR ON TERRORISM. Y'know, in case you forgot. They definitely don't want anyone to forget that there's a WAR ON TERRORISM going on between now and, oh, next November. Notice how the White House is now calling our recent invasion the Battle of Iraq.

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I just enjoy the fact that nobody seems to notice these massive failures of intelligence as long as they don't occur at home. Oh, the WTC, launch a congressional investigation and find out why we didn't prevent it!! Heads will roll!!

Oh, Bali/Riyadh/Khobar Towers bombing, which the FBI chief eventually resigned over because he couldn't get any results - we don't give a shit etcetera. Let's try and pass another flag burning amendment.

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, it's more consistent than you think. Hell, even when they finally got around to naming a Sept. 11 panel, they put Henry fucking Kissinger in charge of it. And have you seen any heads rolling yet? "Intelligence Failure," of course, will be the perfect name for a book about the Bush years.

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

How is American intelligence meant to protect a nightclub in Bali? I am surprised that the residential compound wasn't more heavily guarded considering they had already evacuated some people because of the threats. (Oh and fuck Al-Q for killing people who were going to leave their precious land in the coming months.)

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank god for that, I thought you said moths.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

US intel is devoted worldwide to finding out about terrorist threats and pre-empting them by alerting local authorities if necessary. Last time I checked.

No, Jesse, I haven't seen any heads rolling, but I did see a lot of pressure placed (appropriately) on the people in charge to prove that they hadn't screwed up and that they would fix whatever needed to be fixed and pronto. I was pointing out that while there was massive concern over 9/11, we don't seem to be particularly concerned with overseas incidents beyond simply reporting them.

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think we're that concerned, as a populace, over 9/11 anymore, either. Why Dubya and his cronies have gotten what amounts to a free ride over that is beyond me.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

They certainly haven't done anything to convince me that they didn't allow it to happen.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The comission investigating 9/11 is severely underfunded, has wasted half its time waiting to get security clearance to see top secret docs, and now the Bush junta is blocking them from seeing presidential papers from 9/11 claiming executive priviledge. The best way to protect America from terrorism would be to try and find out what the fuck went wrong w/ 9/11 and fix it, but most Americans don't seem to care.

― fletrejet, Tuesday, 13 May 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

So Bush is upset about the seven dead Americans in Riyadh, but remains mute on the bombing(s) in Chechnya? Why is it that he only seems to get upset if it's Americans who are harmed?

Hell. Forget it. I am not going to start thinking along these lines - it'll just make me progressively more pissed at the current state of national and international politics. And the lack of human rights. And the loss of human liberty. And the complete loss of balanced justice.

― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Justice comes around in the end. Even if it's after somebody's been long dead, history remembers. this administration will get its well-deserved comeuppance, just as Nixon's did. The current climate will be remembered for exactly what it is.

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know Millar. The Bush Administration has blocked documents from the Reagan era from being released, and has changed a lot of the rules for disclosure.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

that didn't help Nixon though, did it? It all comes out in the wash.

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

It was already too late for Nixon! Plus most of his dirty laundry became public thanks to G. Gordon Liddy and pals....

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i could've cared less what bush said. what chilled me to the bone was the massive cheer that followed, like the kind you'd hear at a football game or in the roman coliseum.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

At least he's not talkin' "Texas Justice"-http://www.geocities.com/entertalkmentsite/texasjustice.html

Altough it would be funny if terrorists got prosecuted on a daytime TV Show.

― Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

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