So, who wants to give me a reasonably paid and vaguely satisfying job, then?

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Rule of three, mwah hah hah!

And is this more important than getting a decent shag?

(Though I must say, having bootycalled HSA on the way back from my jog yesterday after a hell day at work, the latter does help distract from the former...)

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I blame Mark C and Stevem, they made me start this thread, and now they won't post on it. You suck!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I think, despite how contrary to my nature it might seem, a reasonably paid and vaguely satisfying job is more important than a a decent shag. Not that I don't appreciate the latter.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

You're just happy that someone didn't blame you for once. ;-)

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I really know what job satisfaction is.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

but do you know what a decent shag is nordicz?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I like to think so, julio.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil and Kate flirting again shockah!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

What's all this about "decent" shags and "reasonable" pay, anyway?

The internet is killing our ambition!!

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd happily settle for ONE only of 'reasonably paid' or 'vaguely satisfying', as long as I get to keep the decent shag as well.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I know in a way what he's saying. I mean, I've never had a satisfying job/career, but I've found fulfillment in things like making music and writing and art - more vocations or callings, I suppose than a career, not least of which cause I never made any money at them - than I've ever had out of a relationship.

I hate these sorts of terms, but being *actualised* - feeling like your life has meaning and importance - is more important than a relationship in terms of my well being. I suppose for some people, being in a relationship is the thing that actualises them. It just doesn't seem to do that for me.

I've spent a long time looking for *something* to make my life worthwhile. I always thought it would be a good relationship. That makes life bearable, but it's not what makes it worthwhile.

:-(

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, what I meant was I appreciate a decent shag, but I'd rather have a world-stopping, mind-bending, totally kick-ass and crazy...

job?

NO A FUCK, of course.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

(Oh, and in regards to the shagging - by "decent" I mean of course mind-blowing, breathtaking, wow-was-that-an-earthquake-or-an-orgasm amazing, of course!)

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

but kate isn't that expecting too much? At least from us males...

(nevermind me, I'm gonna roll back over and go to sleep)

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I mean, that's what I am getting on a fairly regular basis. :-)

So surely this should be enough, and I should just shut up and Be Seen To and quit bitching about hating my job?

(And if we're going with these outdated gender roles, when do I get to quit my job so HSA can support me on his grants? I mean, sure, yeah, he has to spend the money on materials and things that help him with his art and stuff. But surely backrubs and blowjobs come under that category?)

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think that you should "just shut up." Although I'm not a fan of being dissatisfied all the time (as I am currently), it ideally should help you realize what you can do to change things in your favor. Ideally, of course.

As for me, my situation's fucked. At least I'll have the time to grow a beard soon.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

And is this more important than getting a decent shag?

yes because a decent shag will only last what, 5 minutes?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

unless you're shagging Sting.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean you know, once you spill red wine on it its all over

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ouch

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

take my mother in law...please

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Though I must say, having bootycalled HSA on the way back from my jog" --

Dude... were you, like, all sweaty and stuff when you went over there?!??!

― absolute skittles, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Decent job? Decent sex? Who says you can't combine the two occasionally? Like... on your lunch break... wherever there's an empty conference room or something?!?!?!

― absolute skittles, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

of course porn stars can have their cake AND eat it

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

...as long as it doesn't all go to their thighs.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

http://members.aol.com/dubplatestyle/mase.jpg
Ma$e would say 'go get a cup of shut the fuck up Scott!'

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

"Though I must say, having bootycalled HSA on the way back from my jog"

Dude... were you, like, all sweaty and stuff when you went over there?!??!

Yes. He didn't seem to mind. Actually, really, I didn't technically bootycal him. I was just turning the corner up Southampton Row when it started to pour with rain, so I meant to just shelter at his flat until it stopped raining, but I got there and he was all "you're soaking wet!" and all sorts of punning hillarity and "let's get you out of these wet clothes" shennanigans ensued. ;-)

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"of course porn stars can have their cake AND eat it " --

yeah, but you can't have an ILX-caliber conversation with some 19 yr old runaway/wannabe-starlet from Ohio between takes of "Campus Sluts, Vol. 8"...

― absolute skittles, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

sweaty sex rulez.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

So does post-rained-on sweaty sex.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Unexpected "oh, I just dropped by" sex rules.

And here I thought that he would be all upset that I invaded his privacy and just dropped by without calling or asking first... and he was VERY VERY PLEASED. (Are you pleased to see me or is that an oscillator in your pocket?)

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm, I'm almost tempted to say that maybe you should just shut up about your lousy job now, kate!

(kidding)

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Skittles, how do you know? Some of these troubled teens might find ILX exactly what they're looking for.

So, porn star. Is that it? Sorry I didn't post earlier, kate, I've been playing football and possibly breaking a rib. Ow. Maybe I should have waited another 15 minutes for thre codeine to kick in before posting for that comedy skagged-out tone.

Another vote from the Putney jury for rain-soaked sex, yes.

― Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

your all a bunch of Lloyd Dobblers.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, you see what's happened! I tried to start a nice thread about fulfillment and satisfaction in employment, and hstencil turned it into another SEX THREAD!!!

HSTENCIL!!!

(Imagine this said in that comedy-irate tone of voice as in "Seymour and the Superintendent" sketch in the Simpsons...)

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd be very interested if it was indeed an oscillator in his pocket.
Mine barely fits in a backpack.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

HSA has some, like, mini-oscillators. Hand-held oscillators. Pocket oscillators. I am the operator of HSA's pocket oscillator!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Now, that's just dirty.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"Ma$e would say 'go get a cup of shut the fuck up Scott!" --

Really? You mean, in addition to bustin' phat-ass rhymes with the slow-flow-like-Mrs.-Butterworth's, he also quotes 15 year-old girls on behalf of anonymous website moderators??? I knew that guy was sumthin' special...

*ALTERNATE RESPONSE*

Not if I offered him a fat-ass Philly blunt, he wouldn't...

― absolute skittles, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

HSA always says that SoundArt is just sexual display because he wants to sleep with arty upper middle class girls... maybe he should just go whole hog and make a selection of dirty dronerock sex aids which are combination oscillator/vibrators!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I cannot believe I have just posted that. That would have been low, even for Dan Perry! Eek! Is it an INTF trait to have a dirty mind?

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

wow! he'd make a killing.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Erm... only if all the girls in the world were like me... I have a feeling Dirty Dronerock Girls who would be impressed by such a thing are quite a rare bird indeed. Then again, I dunno. HSA's certainly had his share of laydeez. < /insecurity >

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I want a new oscillator! No wait, I'd have to bother to start working on my synth again and I need a circuit board before I can do that.

Kate's mojo is outta control, this is grebt!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

It'd prolly be a better idea if it was marketed by you, though. I mean, that whole world of The Wire has a bad enough image regarding females anyway.

Oh kate, don't be insecure about other girls. You should be happy.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

But who has him now, kate? You.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

It might work better if it were marketed at Wire-type BOYS...

"Hey guys, want to attract super-sexy arty upper middle class chixors?" (Picture of Kate fondling an Oscillator/Vibrator/Harmonic Generator/Orgone Accumulator) EXPERIENCE THE ST.CLAIRE EFFECT WITH THIS NEW WIDGET!!!

Erm, yeah. Maybe I should suggest this idea to HSA tonight! This is my new job! Pitching oscillator sex aids to Wire-type boys!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

see, I think it's a good idea for those of us frustrated with our jobs to go into business for ourselves.

(can I get the American franchise license?)

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

You can run our NYC branch of the shop! Perfect!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

heh, I'll run it out of my home.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm...maybe ILXCorp should start making and marketing these, instead of potbellied pigs. After all, if I remember correctly Tom E. is in marketing and has hands-on experience in making vibrators.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Hell no! Cause the whole point of this is me getting OUT of accounting!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"I call this one the Sonic Boom..."

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, my impending unemployment has rekindled my idea of starting a boutique record label. Don't know how I'll pull this off without any money, though.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"And I call this one Rocket Rocket HSA..."

Ha-HEM!

Hstencil, sorry but starting a boutique record label is a way of LOSING money, not making money!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"I wanna take you for a ride, take me through the other side"

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Dirty dronerock dildoes.

We have reached a new low!

― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

No, kate - a new high!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

exactly, kate. I figure though I'll be broke anyway, why not do something fun for a change?

― hstencil, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

This model we call the 'Balls of Confusion'.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

your all a bunch of Lloyd Dobblers

This is what I have always wanted.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"The new Lloyd Dobbler tremelo pedal is not just an effect pedal but also a..."

― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

HSA and I discussed this last night, and figured out that (with a twist that we won't discuss here because I well might be able to copyright it) not only might I be able to make an actual widget out of this idea, but that I could make conceptual Sound Art out of it. Since he's proved himself very good at getting grants, hrmmm, maybe there might be something in it...

― kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll go into accounting, it pays you more and at least it's better on yr CV then more blooming PA experience. Job swap? You'll have to come to Woolwich though...

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Woolwich. and also Charlton.

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Why?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the free ferry, Poundstretcher, the M&S sandwiches... but that's about it. And today I'm going to Game to look at the 2nd hand playstation games. Ah it's not that bad for a town of teenage pregnancy stats. My office is a DIVE though.

― Sarah (starry), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)

it reminds me of Bonn. and also Shipley.

i forgot why this was a good thing

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Charlton as well, but I think that's because my own preconceptions have turned it into the fluffy cuddly equivalent of Woolwich and Plumstead. This may be in no small part due to the football club, which I also have a soft spot for.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)

What does Alan Curbishley think about all this unsensible sex, perhaps a stopgap like Neil Redfern is necessary?

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

You want to be playing straightforward, unglamorous sex - preferably up the wings, scoring once and covering your back.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i think that sex is more important than work because the memory of great sex will get you through your working day a lot better than the memory of a great piece of work will get you through the nightmare of bad sex.

but i also believe that the concept of finding happiness is impossible, certainly in western society and possibly universally and so you should probably just accept the fact you going to be unhappy with your job most of the time. who hasnt worked their tits off to get a new dream job only to get their on their first day and be told by all the incumbents just how shit it is.

we arent built for happiness! we need the motivation of desire, disappointment etc. temporary contentment, consoling fantasies and nostalgia and topped off with spurts of pleasure.

that is as good as it gets!

― arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I need the motivation of desire right now.

My work, my career has never been my primary motivation. It's always been my music first, and then the urge for sexual/romantic satisfaction and the job was way down there on the list.

Now I no longer have that musical/artistic outlet, and I've achieved a sort of sexual/romantic satisfaction, so I've got nothing left to strive for, I feel like I've got very little to look forward to, and the general sense of dissatisfaction with my job has become overwhelming.

I need to find a new DREAM and that's much harder than finding a new job.

― kate, Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Well today i find out if my job will be satisfying, its yearly review time. hmmm.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:31 (twenty-two years ago)

a lot of menatlism at work here, Woolwich is a dump (I get off at that station and ctach the bus almost every day).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i can thoroughly recommend getting made redundant.

it is early doors for me but i got paid off, even on their mean terms it was a necessary financial boost and it is forcing me to think very hard what i want to do and i am going to retrain for a complete different profession [i hope - if i get on the course]

― arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

got passed over again for a promotion. unfuckingbelievable. Im out of this fucking hell hole. i told my boss that his decision gives me no choice but to look elsewhere because obviously my career is going no where here. F-him.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry Chris.

― shtencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Too bad, Chris. Good luck on the search.

― Sarah MclUsky (coco), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

(I can't believe I misspelled my own name)

― hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil shtencil. Oy, whatever.

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks peeps. Well at least he knows Im looking. Whatever.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Dang, Chris. Best of luck indeed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I think what I really need to do is go into his office with a boombox and "Come Get To This" on it, in my robe and slap my bean bag on his keyboard. He'd probably promote me on the spot.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

― hstencil, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

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