do you need experience to judge pleasure?

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everytime you do something pleasurable [e.g. eat a curry] it becomes a little less special or does it?

and do you need a reasonable quantity of curries eaten to really know?

― arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

What's this question really about, hmm?

― alix (alix), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

it is about whether you can apply the theory of diminshing returns to human experience...

― arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't had a curry in a while.

: /

and there was a time that I thought I never would have a curry/would not like it if I did.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Given the difficulty of quantifying pleasure, I reckon every curry is equal. But some are more equal than others.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

They're talking downtown, right?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

there must be a way of quantifying pleasure.
otherwise surely the entire AI project is doomed?

― arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

In what sense would the AI "project" be doomed?

― Madeline Alsmeyer (madders), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

the idea of the human mind being replicated.
you could not do it without some form of pleasure drive, i reckon.

otherwise you would just be building some kind of huge calculator.

i think it is almost certainly possible to analyse and quantify pleasure. and then i hope we can make some kind of analysis of whether human behaviour and how it is driven...

― arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Hume would say that we need *more* experience to be able to judge pleasure better.

― alext (alext), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Well there are many purposes in AI, and they are not all to replicate what humans do and how think and are indeed driven, thats more, I would say, cognitive science....

― Madeline Alsmeyer (madders), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I shall let you know just as soon as I've finished eating this curry.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

excuse my ignornace about cognitive science.
as an ex humanities student i was just wondering about uniqueness of experience and how much specialness contributes to pleasure

i think specialness is probably something that you only realise afterwards and the extra pleasure comes from the memory rather than being acknowledged at the time by a brain that does not know how much it is going to experience this pleasurable curry eating moment in the future.

can you not have some kind of brain scan thing that measures endomorphins or something. it would be fun to make a record of these levels and then compare them to your memories idea of how much pleasure it was having at certain times. obviously your memory would differ but it would be interesting to work out why...

have i bored everyone to tears now?

― arthur woodlouse (arthur woodlouse), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha I don't understand this thread at all. it is great.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

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