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yes, another footie thread, seeing as they are rejuvenating ILe so wonderfully. Basically, I want yr all time x1, in their correct positions, I want style of play and I want 3 subs.

go to it.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

The temptation to just post the AFC Wimbledon first team is so strong because they've rejuvenated football for me and given me the greatst pleasure of any eleven players. Though I might put Sanchez, Earle and Beasant on the bench...

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I've jusrt realised, this is going to take ages to do.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Manager: Terry Vanables, style 4-4-2, sometimes playing a diamond midfiled with Zola playing just behind the front two.

1. Erik Thorsvedt (GK)
2. Paul Parker (QPR style) (RB)
3. Stuart Pearce (Nottingham Forest prime) (LB)
4. Fabio Cannavaro (CB)
5. Franco Baresi (CB)
6. Bryan Robson (CM)
7. Chris Waddle (RWM)
8. Paul Gascoigne (CM)
9. Marco Van Basten (CF)
10. Gary Lineker (GH)
11. Zola (LWM)

12. Frank Rijkaard (M)
13. Peter Shilton (GK)
14. Jurgen Klinnsmann (CF)

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Southall; Stevens, van den Hauwe, Ratcliffe, Mountfield; Reid, Steven, Bracewell, Sheedy; Heath, Sharp (subs: Arnold, Harper, Gray).

You didn't expect me to say anything else, did you?

(I might give a proper answer later).

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

i love how jels football answers are as immediately identifiable as his music ones

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 15 May 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

ha! (I've no idea who Terry Vanables is either!)

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Schmeichel, Carr, Cannavaro, Thuram, Maldini, Giggs, Zidane, Gascoigne, Ginola, Robbie Keane, Klinsmann.

None of that holding midfield bollocks. The spirit of Ossie Ardiles lives!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Although maybe I should drop Robbie Keane in favour of Cantona.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Matt DC - My team would over run your team, except two of them would have split loyalties and might become emotionally distressed playing for two competing teams simulateneously.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, where are my loyalties?

Baardsen, Kerslake, Nethercott, Vega, Edinburgh, Howells, Samways, Caskey, Dozell, Doherty and Rocket Ronnie Rosenthal upfront.

BEAT THAT!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

you forgot Jason Dozzell

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

NO I DIDN'T!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, I was looking at this website of Spur's transfers, and they listed Vega as being transferred to Celtic for the price of the bus fair.

Personally, you'd be better off with Steve Sedgley instead of Caskey, his "wanker" hand gesture behind the back of one of the Forest players from the '91 final is an all-time classic.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

and you need Sedgley coz he invented the pulling your shirt over your head goal celebration: http://www.mehstg.com/sedgley.htm

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Right; here's the team I've assembled in the Master League on ISS PE2 (newest version) on the PS1;

3-4-1-2 (nominal wingbacks pushed well forward and basically acting as wingers; holding midfielders pushed forward too!)

Gordon Banks
Franco Baresi; Franz Beckenbauer; Frank Rijkaard
Garrincha (WB); Johann Cruyff (DM); Ruud Gullit (DM); Michel Platini (WB)
Zico (in the hole)
Pele; Van Basten

Various people on the bench, the two who get used most being Maradona and Di Stefano.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 15 May 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Thirs sub would = Lothar Matthaus (he can play anywhere) and the style of play is "fucking cavalier".

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah you didn't! Sorry Matt I must have subconsciously erased him.

You forgot Chris Armstrong and Jose Dominguez.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

not to mention Ruel Fox

― chris (chris), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

and Jason Cundy

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

And Justin Edinburgh

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Jason Cundy played for Old Rutlishians against AFC Wimbledon in a charity match!

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Playing 4-3-3

1. Cudicini (Chelsea, best keeper ever)
2. Josimar (Brazilia 86)
3. Micky Pejic (Stoke, Everton - 'best buggergrips' award 1977)
4. Des Walker (Forest, the first time)
5. Matt Phillips (Barry Town)
6. Ken Houghton(Hull City 1970's ballwinner, good engine)
7. Paul Donellan (King's College 5th XI 1985-88 - he can run, he can shoot!)
8. Alain Giresse (France 80's)
9. Me (bagsy number 9!)
10.Zola (Chelsea)
11.George Best (Man U - cos he's the best)

Subs : Pat Nevin (Chelsea), Clive Allen (the 40-odd goals season), and that frightening no.3 for Bulgaria in the 1990's (wore no.3, played centre-back - Ivanov?)

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm playing 3-4-3, in the rampaging, pass and move liverpool groove style

Zoff - one of my earliest heroes
Goikoetxea - my destroyer, the one who doles out the reducers
Baresi - the organiser, my emmissary on the pitch
Hansen - excellent defending

Barnes - in Liverpool mode, not England
Boban - clever and ruthless
Souness - just like Boban, only more so
Platini - very French, very good

these next two, playing just behind the front, point man
Dalglish - huge arse, huge talent
Cruyff - god

Rush - best goalscorer evah.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Ray Clemence, Mitchell Thomas, Gary Stevens, Steve Hodge (they're all going to put on a show for you), and don't forget Ossie, especially 'cos he, back in '81 he had his dream come true. Nico Claesen, Hughton and Galvin, don't forget Clive and Paul Allen too, Richard Gough and Chrissy Waddle, Gary Mabbutt and Glenn Hoddle, and Danny all the goals are going be for you.

Two of them would be subs

― Jonnie, Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone has to rhyme it from now on.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Managed by the immaculate and inflamatory Fabio Capello, I'm going for swaggering, arrogant, elegant all-out attack, playing 3 across the back with Carlos and Figo providing the ammunition from the wings and ‘the Doctor’ and Boban pulling the strings in midfield. Watch out for ‘the Doctor’s’ trademark backheel and that killer ball right over the middle from Zvonimir for Van Basten to volley home. Zico, of course, has a free roaming role just behind the strikers as it would be foolish to try and shackle the boy's genius, with Van Basten playing slightly behind the likely lazy but nonetheless brilliant Stoichkov. At the back, ‘The Kaiser’ runs the show, breaking forwards safe in the knowledge that the all-Italian pairing of Cannavaro and Baresi will keep the door shut behind him. If anything gets through, Banks is always the man you want between the sticks. The bench is just the final intimidation. The only problem would be on free kicks, where you’d have 7 players fighting to see who takes it.

10. Stoichkov (CF)
11. Van Basten (CF)
7. Zico (CF)
5. Carlos (LMF) 3. Socrates (CM) 9. Boban (CM) 8. Figo (RMF)

2. Cannavaro (CB) 4. Beckenbauer (CB) 6. Baresi (CB)

1. Banks (GK)

Subs
12. Pele (CF)
13. Zoff (GK)
14. Maradona (MF)

― Alex K (Alex K), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm, about that team formatting not quite coming out right....

― Alex K (Alex K), Thursday, 15 May 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Side thought: why the lack of Maradonna love on the recent splurge of football threads?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

too wayward, too ureliable, Goikoetxea broke his legs in training

― chris (chris), Thursday, 15 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The highest-scoring legal* XI possible from the BBC Fantasy Premiership site for 2002-03 would be:

Friedel; Neill, Bridge; Gallas, Ehiogu;
Jensen, Kewell, Scholes, Geremi;
Henry, van Nistelrooy

(* - no more than two players from any one club and total cost under £50m [of BBC fantasy money]; without cost restrictions it's more like:

Freidel; Riise, Le Saux; Gallas, Hyppia;
Pires, Kewell, Scholes, Geremi;
Henry, van Nistelrooy)

I like Dr C's team.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 15 May 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Zoff
Cafu
Roberto Carlos
Johan Cruyff
Matthaus
Hierro
Beckham
Zidane
Van Nistelrooy
Ronaldo
Best

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Manager Brian Clough

Goalkeeper Gordon Banks
3-man defence of Franco Baresi (captain), Paolo Maldini and Des Walker.
Midfield of Franz Beckenbauer (some defensive responsibility!), Johann Cruyff, George Best, Zinedine Zidane
Two supporting attackers: Jairzinho and Diego Maradona
Spearhead: Pele

Subs: Peter Scheichel, Michel Platini, Marco Van Basten

Style: I think the chances of getting that mob to play defensively are slim, but try to outscore us!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

At risk of being disgracefully Celtic-biased (except I am)..

Ronnie Simpson
Jim Craig
Tommy Gemmell
Bobby Murdoch
Billy McNeill
Jim Clark
Jimmy Johnstone
Willie Wallace
Stevie Chalmers
Bertie Auld
Bobby Lennox

All born within 30 miles of Celtic Park and the first British team to win the European Cup.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only one not to include any players from my favourite team? Admittedly the temptation is less when you love Bristol Rovers than Liverpool or Celtic or maybe even Tottenham (The Pinefox sloped off early last night, and I missed my usual company for the walk to Trafalgar Square for the night bus, so I'm in a mood to wind him up. Sorry to the lovely Matt and other Spurs fans!).

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 16 May 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm presuming this thread is for your favourite XI, rather than trying to come up with an objective best. So I have to go for all United, and I'm not picking any players that I've never seen (hence the lack of Best, Edwards, Billy Meredith etc).

And because I'm picking my favourite players, I'm not even going for the best United XI from my football-watching life. On footballing terms there should be room for Bruce, Beckham, Scholes and Van Nistelrooy, but I had to make some harsh personal choices. So....

Goalie - Peter Schmeichel
Back four - Gary Neville, Jaap Stam, Gordon McQueen, Dennis Irwin
Midfield - Steve Coppell, Roy Keane(C), Lou Macari, Ryan Giggs
Strikers - Mark Hughes, Eric Cantona

Subs - Gordon Hill, Bryan Robson, Ole Gunnar Solksjaer (of course).

It broke my heart to leave Gordon Hill on the bench (he was my first ever footballing hero), but Giggs in full flight is something special.

― James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

We were talking about this over the weekend, and it morphed into no.1 team of gingers, and no. 1 team of baldies. Of course, some, like John Hartson, can go in both. WE had trouble thinking of a ginger keeper, and my mind got a bit scrambled, so I can't remember whether we came up with one...

― Vicky (Vicky), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Also a jailbirds XI which seemed to have a preponderence of Evertonians in it innit?

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 19 May 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't Steve Ogrizovic a bit ginger?

― James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

There was nearly a fistfight between the 'Oliver Kahn is blonde' and the 'Oliver Kahn is strawberry blonde' factions.

― Tim (Tim), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Mike Hooper!

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

I have been watching a DVD of the 1960 European Cup Final, reading Garrincha's biography, Maradona's autobiography, and the Brilliant Orange book, trawling Youtube for black+white footage and watching that History Of Football DVD, and have assembled a splurge of "Classic" teams on the new Pro Evo - think Arsenal with Brady, Henry, Wright, Ball, Adams and Jennings; Barcelona with Lineker, Stoichkov, Nadal, Kocsis, Maradona and Romario; Inter with Meazza, Mazzola, Matthaus, Brehme, Zanetti and Facchetti; Real with Puskas, Di Stefano, Zidane, Kopa, Santamaria and Breitner; Roma with Voller, Falcao, Cerezo, Conti, Totti and Aldair; United with Charlton, Best, Edwards, Giggs, Hughes and Schmeichel; Milan with Van Basten, Nordahl, Baresi, Maldini, Gullit and Rivera; Juve with some criminals; plus Classic Europe and Classic South America teams for players like Fontaine, Beckenbauer, Yashin, Eusebio, Franchescoli, Garrincha, Varela and Figueroa who played for clubs I can't be arsed (or don't like enough) to research... and I keep thinking that if I did an ultimate XI it would be something like...

Yashin
Krol, Beckenbauer, Ruggeri, Brehme
Rijkaard, Edwards
Zico
Garrincha, Puskas, Cruijff

with

Schmeichel
Gentile
Matthaus
Falcao
Eusebio

on the bench. Capello could manage, and style of play would be, once again, "fucking cavalier" - Brehme coming forward to cross and shoot from range, Krol and Ruggeri sitting last men back, Beckenbauer loping up, Edwards and Rijkaard running the engine, Zico floating in the middle, Cruijff doing what Cruijff does vaguelly on the left, Garrincha dancing on the right, and Puskas scoring a goal every ten second.

I love old football players. Much more interesting than current ones.

― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 February 2007 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

The wanky football as art x1 (not gonna pretend i have seen any football from beyond 30 years ago so fuck di stefano):

Casillas
Cafu Koeman* Chivu** Maldini (c)***
Rijkaard Vieira
Haji
Messi Henry Cryuff

Subs: Zoff; Campbell, Carlos; Xavi, Riquelme; Stoichkov, Litmanen.

Managed by Wenger considering Cryuff is in the team.

*For free-kicks alone.
**Such a shame Jose hates him and he cracked his skull open.
***Most probably should be Cole but you know, he's a cunt.

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 March 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

Schmeichel
Brazil 1970

― DarraghmacKwacz (darraghmac), Monday, 22 March 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

real talk

― LiveJournal (acoleuthic), Monday, 22 March 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

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