Al Qaeda's USAMA/ Osama BIN LADEN
The growing intelligence of the evidence of Al Qaeda's Osama bin Laden's terrorism network
Yet more evidence this was reported yesterday ! September 9, 2001 - On Videotape, Bin Laden Charts a Violent Future
He tells followers that there is nothing to fear from the United States and that their Islamic faith — and their willingness to die — is enough to neutralize America's military might.
Much of the tape focuses on the current upheaval in Israel and the Palestinian territories. What is not clear, say intelligence experts, is whether Mr. bin Laden plans to mount direct attacks on Israeli targets, or whether he is firing followers' passions for attacks elsewhere. "Our brothers in Palestine are waiting for you anxiously, and expect you to strike at America and Israel," Mr. bin Laden says. "God's earth is wide and their interests are everywhere."
What more evidence do you require?
― DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Bin Laden's appointment confirmed that a center of international terrorism is being set up in Taliban-controlled territory, the ministry said in a statement.
Now, Bin Laden-financed; another story. It's not as if he's even a terrorist -- he is the Yoda of terrorism.
But my suspicion is that the conclusions of a bunch of kids on a music discussion forum will have very little to do with the reality of the situation, so unless Encyclopedia Brown is now to ILE, speculation might be out of order.
― Nitsuh, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― mark s, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
U.S. intelligence officials tell CNN "there are good indications that persons linked to Osama bin Laden may be responsible for these attacks."
I suppose "linked" = "Yoda-d."
Who else is involved?
Bin Laden has connections with stacks of extremists across the middle east and north africa. This is fact not fantasy fiction.
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm As for whether he is connected with this incident, I'd hazard a guess that indirectly, almost certainly. Directly, time will tell. There are few things more comforting in times like these than conjecture, wouldn't you say?
― ogden, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Ans = because it was all rumour and flimflam. If it's him, then he has been out in the world swaggering at full volume: this is hardly clandestine. So Intelligence Officials have zero excuse for not knowing more (they have far more resources than he does). They did not make more of it because they did not believe he was capable: why do they suddenly do so now? Of course he is prime suspect on TV: TV has lots of good sinister footage of him wearing funny Taliban-type hats.
I am sorry martian: I do not trust these kinds of sources, on this kind of a day. If it was HIM they have no excuse for not knowing.
At least we can safely rule out Breton separatists.
― Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Johnathan, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
After all, it's a bit late to lock the doors if the bogeyman's already hiding under your bed.
Re: the original question, the bin laden quote only suggests incitement, not specific involvement. There's a difference between saying "[they] expect you to strike at America and Israel" and saying "Dive-bomb these targets. Imran'll meet you for flight X at Boston, he's got the plans" - how little involvement would the man have to have in order to be considered directly responsible for these acts?
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
John Miller: Mr. Bin Ladin, you have issued a fatwa calling on all Muslims to kill Americans where they can, when they can. Is that directed at all Americans, just American military, just Americans in Saudi Arabia?
Osama Bin Ladin: As we mentioned before, Allah ordered us in this religion to purify Muslim land of all non-believers, and especially the Arabian Peninsula where the Ke’ba is. After WWII, the Americans became more aggressive and oppressive, especially in the Muslim world. We are surprised this question is coming from Americans. Each action will solicit a similar reaction. We must use such punishment to keep your evil away from Muslims, Muslim children and women. American history does not distinguish between civilians and military, and not even women and children. They are the ones who used the bombs against Nagasaki. Can these bombs distinguish between infants and military?
― stevo, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I really don't like saying this ever, but I think this thread is reckless to the point of being dangerous, and I request that it's deleted.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
You might remember also what happened after the last major terrorist act on US soil, when all fingers pointed to the middle east, until it turned out to be an American.
I'm not calling you anything here: I understand that it's all very mental, and that it'd be great to be able to say "I did something", but this isn't the right thing, and I think that it contributes to a dangerous mood. I even think, and it's hard for me to express enough how much this makes me squirm, that it's more important not to have this here than to have it. I'd have no problem with in a few days, but I'd rather not have the bloodthirst that's sure to crop up in the next White House statement turn up here until things have cooled.
Peace,
― DG, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Of course in aftermath of such an event, especially such a tragic event, the rolling news - so good at capturing the as it happens horror of the event - if left with endless talking shops and again this need to attribute blame and be first. By all means we should be discussing what this means and how NATO responds (because it will be NATO) but the spirit should be merely that - discussion of interesting and not necessarily all that informed participants. I would keep this thread too DG. And keep up the fine moderation.
― Pete, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
OBL does not like the American way of life (although strangely no mention of Fred Durst) and the US meddling in the middle eastern affairs.
― DJ Martian, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― nick, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Pete, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Nick, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tim, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
tell us more....
― cabbage, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Queen Mother theory two is a corrolary of theory one which suggests that the QM organised it herself and was indeed on one of the planes figuring its best to go out with a bang.
― gareth, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Snakes On A Plane!
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 13:55 (seventeen years ago)
this meme has peaked now.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 13:56 (seventeen years ago)
Don't tase me bro?
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 13:56 (seventeen years ago)
If anyone else wants this thread deleted mail me. If enough people agree with Mr Farrell it'll go. -- DG, Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:00 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link
oh the power
― DG, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)
If enough people agree with Mr Farrell
^^^pretty sure this never happened
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)
DJ Martian, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 01:00
WHAT DID HE KNOW
― That mong guy that's shit, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:01 (seventeen years ago)
-- Dom Passantino, Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:56 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
i'm in
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:02 (seventeen years ago)
WTF @ "queen mother theory"
― StanM, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:10 (seventeen years ago)
OBL does not like the American way of life (although strangely no mention of Fred Durst)
o_O
― onimo, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)
Too soon.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 14:14 (seventeen years ago)
CNN says Bin Laden is dead
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 May 2011 02:53 (fourteen years ago)
Just heard about this. Obama about to address the US (10.30 pm EDT?)
― staph white pulvules like (Schlafsack), Monday, 2 May 2011 02:53 (fourteen years ago)
on telly i mean
http://files.myopera.com/bcdc/albums/35555/osama%20bin%20laden%20(bert%20is%20evil)_jpg.jpg
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 May 2011 03:03 (fourteen years ago)