on the topic of how rare it is to find people you can really relate to

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in the Real Way that is.
is it just me or does anyone else find it unusual to come across people that just 'click' in all those really important ways?
'people' in general are fine i guess, but over the years i have found it quite rare to meet someone who shares enough of my interests to a similar degree, to make it Great.
a wide circle of acquaintances is something i seem to end up with, and a Very Small number of real friends inside that. ( and i mean SMALL ).
i know people who have huge numbers of 'close friends' and they all seem to get along so well, but this never bluddy happens to me!

donna (donna), Saturday, 17 May 2003 07:25 (twenty-three years ago)

i have at the moment, 2 people in my life that i can consider to be Close Friends.
please tell me in not alone in this!

donna (donna), Saturday, 17 May 2003 07:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I so agree with you! Tis indeed a rare and valuable friend or partner who you can relax and be yourself with, I have only a few friends like this also. I value their friendship fiercely :) Everyone else I kinda feel like Im just someone they know.. yknow?

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 17 May 2003 07:36 (twenty-three years ago)

i have found it quite rare to meet someone who shares enough of my interests to a similar degree

join the fucking club.

The trick is t meet people like you, not people EXACTLY LIKE you. "Enough of your interests" -- Am I wrong to assume that the 'Enough' in this phrase means 'Totally?'

At a certain point one must reach adulthood, and the most unfortunate and tragic consequence of adulthood (now referred to as 'setting down') is dealing with the consequence of a spouse who is not your ideal --- inconceivable a century ago, when noble studs had their pick of the whitebread litter--- it is truly a burden for the offspring of the hipster class to mate with the sows and hogs of the uneducated and common base.

At best we can hope for some variety of miscegenation which leads to a superior breed of idiot. Then, and only then, will the human race rise to its true potential - the primary producer of unlistenable music for the universe.

PS I am HAMMERED. OH MY GOD I AM FUCKED UIP_ but I didnt woant= to delete this bcz it was to funky to let it die/

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 17 May 2003 08:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Who wants too many close friends anyway? I count my good friends on one hand, and I've always thought this is the way it should be. Beyond my friends, I don't really have any acquaintances, unless I include ILX fappers in this. I'm always unsure of how I describe ILX peeps, as they are more than acquaintances but not exactly close friends (ie I don't call them up and talk rubbish, or hang out in town or go to the pictures). Maybe, if I went to more faps, I'd strengthen friendships.

I'm not sure I'd agree with having similar interests as being a key part of friendship, with my pals, it's that I've known them for years and we've got to know each other. Maybe, we share a world view more than anything else.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 17 May 2003 09:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I lucked out in the early '80s. An old pal (we'd been at school and Cambridge together) and I started a comics fanzine, and we got in touch with a list of people whose work we had liked in other mags. Through 1981 we met a bunch of people (one was Andrew L, who brought me here), and clicked with them. My list of best friends has hardly varied since - one guy moved to Scotland, and a few have been added, but that same group are still the friends who mean the most to me. I was out with most of them on Thursday night.

I'd always considered myself fortunate to meet this lot, because I'd not met many people over the next two decades who suited me nearly as well. Very soon after coming here, I felt as if I'd suddenly found dozens more. When I was coming to my first FAP, almost exactly a year ago (it was the Sunday before the Champions' League final), someone pointed me at some photos of a London FAP crowd, and my first reaction was that they even looked like my friends - not on an individual basis, but collectively (though you lot are younger). I guess a common breadth and depth of cultural interests is the thing. I remember, for instance, meeting John Cooper-Clarke one day and talking to him for about 45 minutes. I went into work the next day and mentioned this, and no one had heard of him. I like being somewhere where I can take it for granted that at least most will know who I'm talking about. I have been the cleverest and most culturally knowledgeable people in most circles I've moved in, but that's not by any means the case with my old friends or here, and I like that a lot.

I can't honestly claim that any ILX people count among my closest friends, nor would I imagine any of them would call me one of their best friends, but it's early days and it might happen as time goes on. I hope so.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 17 May 2003 10:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I think your experience is very normal, Donna...it's certainly been mine throughout life. But the thing I wanted to mention is that it isn't necessarily based on shared experiences or common interests. Sometimes it's just that indefinable something. It can be very chancey and sometimes you just have to go out and meet a bunch of people in order to sift out the worthwhile ones.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 17 May 2003 13:48 (twenty-three years ago)

''I count my good friends on one hand, and I've always thought this is the way it should be''

''But the thing I wanted to mention is that it isn't necessarily based on shared experiences or common interests. Sometimes it's just that indefinable something''

yes and yes. I have two close friends but i don't have lots in common with them (they don't really know much abt music). it's just that i met them at college, and, even though we have gone on and done diff things since we still call each other but even then i only see them once/twice a year i think.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 May 2003 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

It's scarey to say it, but I don't think I have a single close friend right now, except maybe for one virtual friend, who I have only met in person once, but with whom I am able to discuss personal issues as well as a nice range of cultural subjects. Oddly, I don't feel any sense of desperation when I say that. I have had close friends over the years, not necessarily many at a time, but I'm not sure I would want to have that many close friends at one time.

Rockist Scientsit, Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I find it hard to meet people I'd like to be around more often in a friends way because I don't really like going out, I just like to hang out at home (whether my home, or that of my friends). In high school it was easy to just go to anyone's house after school, chill out, listen to music and read magazines or whatever. When I went to college and now that I'm working, it seems that people think it's somehow weird to just do that. (One coworker said in regards to our boss possibly coming to her home - "I don't want her to see in my HOUSE!!") I've decided the reason I can't meet new friends is because the people I'd get along with are all at home like I am, and you can't really go knocking on random doors inviting yourself in. Maybe when I get a bit more desperate.

Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:41 (twenty-three years ago)

It is valuable and rare, and I kind of don't even want to talk about it becasue it's depressing. I'm still optimistic about meeting more of them though. You gotta be.

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 17 May 2003 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

yes i guess i worded this badly, as in stating the bit about interests.
i dont expect to find 'another me', thats silly, but i do find it rare to come across people that i fit with. it gets more obvious at some times than others.
anyway, its morning here now and in the light of dawn i have decided i like it this way.

donna (donna), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought this was the kind of thing that you cared less about as you got older? or is that just me being optimistic?

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess I must be lucky.

or maybe I must just think I am.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I have absolutely no close friends. I'm happy this way. I prefer having a network of hundreds of acquaintances. It's less maintenance.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 17 May 2003 17:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm the opposite, I have about 5 or 6 close friends and fuck all acquaintances. I actually realised recently that since I stopped hanging out in college about a year ago I have absolutely no friends who are girls. This doesn't really bother me but if I was to have a party or something it would be like Club Tropicana. And not because my friends are like Andrew or George.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a lot of friends - some casual, some close, some very close, but it's really really really rare for me to find people who GET me. Luckily, I have a couple of those, too.

luna (luna.c), Saturday, 17 May 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

''i thought this was the kind of thing that you cared less about as you got older?''

oh yeah this OTM but it is always nice to have someone to chat to once in a while i suppose (though that's prob not 'close' to some but it is fine to me).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 May 2003 21:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually care MORE about it as I get older. Maybe in high school because I had a best friend I didnt think about it, or maybe I had more confidence or was more about myself, I dont know. Now, having spent large chunks of time alone, and having experienced the quiet joy that is just being in the prescence of another person and knowing you "get" each other totally, I think if I had no one like that I'd feel it.

Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 17 May 2003 23:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I would think you'd care more as you got older because you wouldn't have a family and you wouldn't make friends with whoever lived near you like little kids do.

Maria (Maria), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)

It is distressingly rare for me to find people I can relate to and care about. I've been lucky, though; I guess I have a good nose for sniffing out the cool, smart, interesting people in any given group. Although those folks usually stick out like sore thumbs anyway.

But I feel a lot less "alone" now than I did as a kid (and ironically, I had more close friends back then).

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's natural to feel noone gets you really or whatever, even when people do, because nobody is fully understood by the world around them.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 18 May 2003 10:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I have two best friends - and we have very little in common, on the surface. But we're all reasonably intelligent and interested in learning about new things - therefore we're developing some common interests, while still retaining our individuality.

I find it to be extrememly rare to have more than one or two people in my life, at any given time, that I feel completely at home and in tune with at all times. I've many buddies and pseudo-friends, but few who are what I would consider to be "close." And I'm fine with this.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 19 May 2003 00:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Most of my best friends I would unreservedly revile if I met them, now, in some tangential way. That said, no regrets.

Aaron A., Monday, 19 May 2003 01:03 (twenty-three years ago)


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