NYC ILXors - Oh, Why Not? <i>Belmont Stakes</i>, Any Interest?

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I figure a Belmont FAP (Saturday, June 7) is pretty do-able for New Yorkers -- we can get there easily via LIRR or subway/bus (directions here). First race is at noon, Belmont Stakes post time 6:04pm.

Who's in?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 May 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"Este es un caballo maravilloso. Nueva York, nullahí vamos!"

http://www.miami.com/mld/elnuevo/sports/5886197.htm

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't wait.

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

So do we go for the $2 general admission or spring for the $5 clubhouse admission? What kind of drinks will they have at Belmont?

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Long Island Iced Tea?

My favorite thing about Belmont is that it's in the town of Elmont.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha Long Island Iced Tea OTM. Looks like there'll be some nice merch on offer as well.

http://store2.yimg.com/I/allpro2_1738_5112496

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

NO LONG ISLAND ICED TEA. Remind me all to tell you my stories about the three months in which that was the only thing I would drink...

I might go. It's a Saturday? That'd be cool.

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 18 May 2003 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so fucking there it's not even funny.

― hstencil, Monday, 19 May 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually might be back in NYC on June 7th! Can I come?

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 19 May 2003 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

omg i get to meet the phil2?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 19 May 2003 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

now i have extra incentive to come home!! i can go shopping with MARY!

im a bit stranded in china since all the land borders have been closed due to sars and all the countries I wanted to go to after China [pakistan, kazakstan, and kyrgyzstan] have even cancelled flights.... so im in shanghai now looking for cheap plane tickets anywhere.. im looking at NYC, Johannesburg, London, Buenos Aires, Kathmandu, and Addis Ababa [strangely, the cheapest of the bunch]...

― phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 19 May 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Hell, go visit H. You know he's a suave motherfucker.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 May 2003 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I still lived in NYC b/c I could then be a cool NYC ILXor.

However I live in TX which allows me to be a cool ILXTX0r which perhaps rocks so much we can't even comprehend. You all should move to TX. It's cheaper.

― That Girl (thatgirl), Monday, 19 May 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)

East Coast: Horse racing!
West Coast: Um.. grunion running?

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 19 May 2003 05:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The trick is knowing which grunion to bet on.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 May 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yum...time to hang with the jockeys, win back the rent money, and shakin' up the earth. I'd come, but I dunno if I can make it up that early....

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 19 May 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

According to the NYT, the official drink is the Belmont Breeze: "an old colonial whiskey punch"!

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 26 May 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

complicated recipe

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 26 May 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm down.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 26 May 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

the lemonade and club soda seem excessive.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 26 May 2003 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm down too, this is on my birthday!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Well shit, then YOU HAVE TO GO, Tracer. We will buy you birthday drinks (but hopefully not that Belmont Breeze thingy).

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer I will bring yoooooou a biiiiirthday gift.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, OTBs offer gift certificates!

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I was more thinking a Latina porn magazine, but whatever.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

What's wrong with the Belmont Breeze? Sounds great.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

It's got way too much in it. If I'm going to drink that many ingredients, it better be a Long Island Iced Tea.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

it may be good, Mary, but it'll never be a Mint Julep.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Mint Juleps are not my style. Have you ever had one of those lemony drinks that have a bit of mint in them? What are they, caipirinhas maybe?

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

[funny rhyme answering in the affirmative]

I think I am going to wear a tie and a sportcoat.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I am wearing my I heart horse T-shirt today.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll wear my leopard print cowboy hat.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm probably going to wear my "It's War Emblem" t-shirt or my Derby t-shirt. Not sure which one I was wearing at the Preakness, but I should try to recreate that day's attire for maximum luck.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

wear your 'war emblem' t-shirt - hardcore!

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

uh, newsflash to JB: War Emblem is the name of the 2002 Kentucky Derby winner.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Now that I think about it, wearing the War Emblem shirt would be bad luck since he didn't win the Triple Crown. Derby shirt it is, then.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you have a Secretariat shirt?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

nope, but I bet that one web site has 'em.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

stence - puhleez I own a 'Welcom Fusiachi Pegasus' sweater*, I'm well aware of Bob Baffert's mighty steed.

*this may not be true

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I saw Fusaichi Pegasus win the Derby so EAT MY FUC, pal.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

well I RODE HIM IN THE DERBY so BRING ON IT FUCFACE!

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Please. You're no Kent Desormeaux.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm The Ghost of Willie Shoemaker's Liver

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

man, if you guys do derbyday again next year I am so there

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I so want to go maybe I can get out of this field day non-sense...

Go Jose and Funny Cide!

― Eve, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Field Day is off, Eve! link I hope u get ur money back! :(

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a sign! Evenif they do get the permiti thinkthis is the sign that I needtobe at belmontand not standing in a fucking field running fromone band toanother.

― Eve, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

(Hey Eve, I checked out Bhava -- looks like its going to be good; thanks for the tip! Hope to see you soon.)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil at the Preakness, kissing his winning ticket:

― hstencil, Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(i wish the derby pics could have been similarly sized)

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 53 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Man fuck AT&T Wireless then.

― hstencil, Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, it kept going "The AT&T User you are trying to reach is unavailable". In fairness, my phone was doing the same thing, one of our group theorized that it was because there were SO MANY CELL PHONES there that they were confused.

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah too many people in a confined space + lots of concrete + not enough cells = busy signals, recordings, etc.

Too bad cause it would've been fun to meet up. Oh well.

Also, the Belmont Breeze tastes like shit.

― hstencil, Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I was disappointed with it and switched back to beer immediately (it tastes fine but obviously consists of no alcohol) but loved the souvenir glass it came in--I found out there was a previous Belmont winner named DANZIG CONNECTION!

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

The Belmont glass is but a pale imitation of the original - the Derby glass. Like so many things today, actually (even though the Belmont Stakes - or B.S. as I like to call it - has been running longer).

― hstencil, Sunday, 8 June 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, why don't you just move back south already if you hate us so much, hstencil? Stop raining on our New York parade.

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 8 June 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't need to rain on the parade since that's all it seems to do here anyway!

Not a good day for tri-state area sports. Funny Cide shows, Clemens doesn't get 300 (against the Cubs!), and the Ducks tie up the Stanley Cup.

― hstencil, Sunday, 8 June 2003 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Rooting against NJ vs. rooting against a team that only exists because of an Emilio Estevez movie.

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 8 June 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Rooting against anyway Anaheim/Disney related = classic

― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 8 June 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked the Belmont Breeze. It got me tipsy after one drink.

Stencil, how did you get into the clubhouse?

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 8 June 2003 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I paid $3.

― hstencil, Sunday, 8 June 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Everybody had cigars! I was smoking faggoty-ass cigarettes. It was a faint thrill to do so with impunity. I also brought a thermos of bloody mary and fixed myself some, including ice i'd brought, and a fresh lemon wedge, after parking myself in the abandoned box belonging to the "Midas Eyes" owner. They had left abruptly after a heartbreaking photo finish in an earlier race. If at the wire Midas Eyes had been at a slightly different point in his gallop, he would have netted us an $18 exacta and them $120,000. As it was they came away with 40K. Aw poor them.

Phones = a total crisis of lameness. They had FOUR payphones for 100,000 people, and none of them would connect to a cellie ("invalid number")

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 9 June 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Aug. 23 at Saratoga = Travers

The Rematch: Funny Cide VS Empire Maker

Who shall prevail?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 9 June 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Aug. 23 at Saratoga = Travers

Heh. One day I think I'll revisit the old stomping ground just to see what everything's like...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I know this topic is older than the hot dog buns stencil and I watched being thrown out after we left belmont BUT i just want to say I am still so upset for funny cide fuck empire maker and his haughty taughty blood lines.

still did not get my pics of the back of sarah jessica and steven speilberg's heads.

― Eve, Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

eight years pass...

leg injury for the TC fave; scratched.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/08/ill-have-another-scratched-from-belmont-ending-triple-crown-bid/

Does this make gambling on the race easier or harder?

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

Wow. Harder I guess

― curmudgeon, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

damn. well it makes the odds of me watching the race much, much longer tbh

― johnny crunch, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

the NYT handicappers this morning were mostly picking against IHA.

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

That was my friend on the video. He used to work at The Racing Form, like dmr. I tried to get him to come out to the trivia night way back when, when we needed more people to make two teams.

― F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/GF5t2.gif

― that's why ZOG controls the radio (brownie), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

Does this make gambling on the race easier or harder?

If you thought he was going to win but didn't want to bet a 4-5 shot then I guess it's a better betting race.

If you were going to bet against him the odds on everyone else will be much worse now. Instead of 4-1 Dullahan might be 9-5.

Plus it's going to rain.

The Derby and Preakness were pretty great this year but man. Sometimes this sport never fails to disappoint.

― dmr, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

He used to work at The Racing Form, like dmr

wait, who is this? did you tell me about that?

― dmr, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

I think so. He was the Railbird who counterpointed against the Romantic in the NYT Belmont Stakes video. Vic M.

― F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

I think I mentioned it briefly when I saw you when tipsy mothra was in town.

― F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

Ah right. I remember now. I've never actually met him, he left just before I started working here.

― dmr, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

Right that's what I remember.

― F is for Fule (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)

Just saw they're giving I'll Have Another a retirement ceremony today.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)

It's such BS that he's being retired. Scratching out of the Belmont seems totally justified - no one wants to see a horse break down or hurt himself worse - but the injury as described is minor. Horses take a few months off and come back from it to race again all the time.

The economics of the sport are too out of whack. You make so much more $$ breeding them than you do racing so there's no incentive for horses to have decent racing careers. They win a couple big races and then off to stud.

― dmr, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)

so sad! bf really wanted a triple crown winner for his bday :(

― tehresa, Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

The whole sport seems built around two groups of gambleholics, the owners and the bettors.

― 9 1/2 Gleeks (WmC), Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

played Paynter and Atigun (2nd/3rd) but hated Union Rags. oh well.

― dmr, Saturday, 9 June 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

Atigun was 19-1 so at least I had the right longshot to finish in the money

― dmr, Saturday, 9 June 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

dmr 'esplain 2 me detention barns plz

― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

usually a trainer has his or her own barn (or some regular stalls in a barn shared with someone else) but for this race they decided all Belmont Stakes horses had to go into the same barn together under 24-hour watch by guards and with a sign-in sheet for everyone who enters

it was ostensibly to ensure a clean race, there's not really anything wrong with what they did per se but they only announced it 9 days before the race and a lot of trainers were annoyed at having to move their horse to a different barn, change their routine, etc. they made a big show out of, like, inspecting the hay that went into the barn (?)

really it was a lotta grandstanding by Gov. Cuomo and the New York State Racing and Wagering Board ... they ordered the detention barn, not the New York Racing Association that operates Belmont. there's a lot of beef between those two organizations and an extremely convoluted and dysfunctional political situation around New York racing right now that could probably be summed up most quickly by saying the governor wants to grab all the power at NYRA and is well into the process of doing so.

― dmr, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

When my wife and I went to Lexington a few years ago, we spent a day at the Kentucky Horse Park. One of the most interesting things was the spacing of paddock areas for racehorses -- there was a DMZ of (iirc) about 30 feet between each of them so the stallions couldn't get at each other over the fence. Thoroughbred racehorses are almost all aggressive ungelded males, and are doubly high-strung due to inbreeding in the industry. Putting them all in one barn for a few days before a race, with all those hormones and pheromones flying around, sounds like a rrrreallly dumb idea.

― Biff Wellington (WmC), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:25 (thirteen years ago)

Well they are almost always going to be stabled in a barn with other racehorses though. I think the issue was more that it put the entire Belmont Stakes / Triple Crown media circus into one highly concentrated area. Trainers complained that it was like Penn Station around there when what they are really looking for is a chill environment where their horse can keep calm.

― dmr, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

two years pass...

just turned this on - the Burger King is sitting with Baffert?

― brownie, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:43 (ten years ago)

only 8 horses seems like too few

― johnny crunch, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:48 (ten years ago)

yeah, I thought the same thing.

― brownie, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:49 (ten years ago)

wire to wire!

― brownie, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:55 (ten years ago)

yea impressive

― johnny crunch, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:55 (ten years ago)

Finally.

― clemenza, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:57 (ten years ago)

i figured this might be the one

and ive never cared less

― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2015 02:22 (ten years ago)

http://www.evergladeshs.org/ourpages/auto/2014/3/19/50518892/Your-Opinion-Matters.jpg

― brimstead, Sunday, 7 June 2015 02:32 (ten years ago)

It was cool that Penny Chenery was there to see it.

― Chuck Lorry Peter Lorry (WilliamC), Sunday, 7 June 2015 02:41 (ten years ago)

i felt like there was some triple crown fatigue this year after california chrome but that was impressive as hell

― call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 June 2015 03:06 (ten years ago)

the other 7 horses came from the Central Park carriage circuit

― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 June 2015 09:01 (ten years ago)

I wondered if he had the Washington Generals going against him, but he ran the 6th-fastest Belmont ever, so that's legit afaic.

― Chuck Lorry Peter Lorry (WilliamC), Sunday, 7 June 2015 11:57 (ten years ago)

Secretariat won the TC at Belmont in 1973 against only four other horses

― Josefa, Sunday, 7 June 2015 13:20 (ten years ago)

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NYC ILXors - Oh, Why Not? Belmont Stakes, Any Interest?