Droppin Middle East science

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Please recommend good books about politics and the contemporary history of the Middle East. I want some hardcore and fair-minded analysis, and I would like it if it were reasonably comprehensive, for the scope I'm looking for (I'm thinking that such a book would include some brief background information about conflicts in the area, but spend the bulk of its space discussing 20th century developments, especially post-WWII). I am even more ignorant about this than I am of most history / politics, and that can't really stand at the moment.

Josh, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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Josh, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Josh, check out the post I just made about Xinoehpoel on google groups "predicting" "something very bad" yesterday. Reading his ideas alone are very informative. Basically, they're fucking nuts.

Nude Spock, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Brian Keenan was an Irish guy who was taken hostage in Lebanon, and he wrote a book about his time called An Evil Cradling. It's a bit sanctimonious at times but it deals with the minds of the extremists very well. Just reading your question again this probably isn't what you're looking for, but its worth checking out anyway

Ronan, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A couple of starting points:

Covering Islam : how the media and the experts determine how we see the rest of the world -- Edward W. Said (if you're going to look into anything regarding all the coverage and how it's being framed, might as well start here)

The Saudis -- Sandra Mackay (while almost twenty years old, it explains the country and the monarchy quite well, I thought)

Both if I remember right have reasonably good bibliographies.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Albert Hourani, A History of the Arab Peoples is good. Also anything by Bernard Lewis.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hourani, duh. I knew I was overlooking something obvious, thank you.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For a wider cultural perspective, I'd recommend 'Post-Modernism and Islam'. This sees the current fundamentalist Islam in the middle east as a plastic reaction against American encroachment, with very little to do with its much more tolerant, peaceable antecedent.

It's the difference between being un-American (simply different in outlook from) and being anti-American (self-consciously styled to be the antithesis of). Since about 1979 Islam has had no social or political agenda except to be 'that which is not American'. Therefore what was once simply a difference, and a welcome addition to all the differences in this pluralistic world, has become a 'toxic difference': different only from America, fundamentalist Islam since 1979 has attempted to destroy all the other differences surrounding it -- Buddhist statues, British writers, women, beardless men, etc.

Instead of adding to the supply of 'othernesses' in the world, this toxic difference, this so-called 'Islam' (in fact merely America's shadow) has become destructive and reductive.

Momus, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Since about 1979 Islam has had no social or political agenda except to be 'that which is not American'

Contrast Islam with the large number of young, western Muslims who identify strongly with African American culture.

Madchen, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1)The Fateful Triangle, The United States, Israel and the Palestinians by Noam Chomsky. Excellent view of events post ww2 by the dissident professor at MIT (most of Chomskys books deal with the middle east in some capacity.)All Americans NEED TO read Chomsky. 2)A Brutal Friendsip, The West and the Arab Elite by Said K. Aburish. The CIA's role in bringing Saddam Hussein to power dealt with quite well.

The desert king, the life of ibn saud by david howarth is a great book about the founder of saudi Arabia. Its an amazing story. Very breify; In 1901, ibn saud, 21 years old and penniles, rode out on camelback from what is now Kuwait, accompanied by 40 men to reconquer his fathers kingdom. At his death, 50 years later, he was the undisputed ruler of most of Arabia and one of the richest men in the world. It also tells of British involvement with him and in the region, as well as the arrival of US oil companies. Kuwait, Iraq and certain borders of Saudi Arabia were of course drawn up by British guys in very dodgey shorts. More generally in the world read Blowback: The Costs and Consequences of American Empire. by Chalmers Johnson.

phil chapman, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I know very little about these issues, but I learned a great deal from The Battle For God by Karen Armstrong. Details the history of fundamentalism in Christianity, Judism and Islam, w/ common threads through the struggles. More ancient history than you're interested in, perhaps, but a thought-provoking read.

Mark, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I found Microsoft Encarta quite helpful this morning, but then I wasn't looking for too much detail.

DG, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Edward Said's Orientalism; excellent for getting a grasp of the creepily patrician way "the West" has always viewed "the East."

Michael Daddino, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Michael , You won out.
As well read John Ralston Saul esp. The realvent entries in A Doubters Companion and Voltaires Bastards

anthony, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I meant Said won me over. As well i second Armstron and aside from Saul, i want to recommend Rushdies book of essays.

anthony, Wednesday, 12 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

try pilger and chomsky.

Geoff, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I had the honour of meeting Edward Said earlier this year (he is pretty ill at the moment with cancer yet still keeps up a pretty punishing schedule). Not only are his books fantastically human accounts of the situation but he is a very funny and insightful bloke in person too. I would recomend him as a perfect starting point.

Anything on the Saudi monarchy is a textbook example of how the West has interefered in the region seemingly for their own interest and therefore alienating much of the population.

Pete, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robert Fisk is a very good, humane writer on the middle east. He writes for the London Independent who have a website somewhere.

There has been a real air of despair in his writing for some time now, I think he has been covering the Middle East for a long time and keeps seeing it getting worse and worse; even before the strike against America he was talking about how Israel and Palestine are on the brink of Armageddon.

I don't know if he has a Bumper Book of the Middle East, but he did write a book about Lebanon some years ago called something like "Pity the Nation - Lebanon at War".

Avi Shlaim's "The Iron Wall" is meant to be a good history of Israel and Israeli policy towards the Arab world.

DV, Thursday, 13 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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