X-Men (the comics)

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I've put this under Culture > Literature for category. Hahahaha.

Anyway...

What's going on with X-Men the comics these days? I used to read them as often as possible (every month except when Crackers comic shop in Exeter didn't get them in) about 10 years ago, I think, back when Jim Lee was drawing and the series had splintered (into X-Men and Uncanny X-Men) and Bishop had arrived, plus X-Factor and X-Force were both in existence (Havok & Polaris in Factor, Cable and Domino in Force. But I lost interest and touch, as you do, and for ten years (is it that long?) I haven't really looked into them except fr a couple of special issues around about The Age Of Apocalypse, which I thoroughly didn't understand at all (all these timelines, Legion killing Prof X by accident, Gambit saving the universe, Beast running back off to be with The Morlocks, whatthefuck?!) probably because I was just so out of touch.

So, here we are, just been to see the new film when it came out, spotted some of the storylines it was alluding to, spotted Gambit's real name and Beast on the tele in the bar, had my appetite picqued (is that a word?), and so, when in WHSmiths, saw an X-Men comic and boguht it. Only it's some shitty UK one that seemingly sticks together bits of American stories at random and left me totally unsatisfied. So I popped in Crackers at lunch today, and a; they had bugger-all X-Men compared to what they used to have (it's all comics with none-more-black covers and vampires and evilness and other assorted gruesome meanies in there these days - I blame Buffy and the Blair Witch), and b; all the X-Men titles were unrecognisable; X-Men Extreme, X-Men Ultimate, X-Men Weirdo etcetera (I may have ~~made these up~~ got confused and misremembered these).

So what's going on? What's worth reading? Who's in what comic? Where can I get them from regularly (I suspect Crackers may be a little more erratic even than it used to be)?

My favourite X-Men are, of course, Bishop, Cable and Gambit, but I love the old-skool ones too, if that helps...

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 May 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i know that X-Force slowly became more and more surreal and "postmodern" and eventually fans got pissed. so they spun it off to a new title called X-Static. i'm not sure exactly what the deal is - i guess it's total satire and doesn't necessarily fit in with the marvel universe.

from what i hear uncanny x-men is just a soap opery now and i think x-factor and excalibur are done.

― j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"now"

I'm sort of in the same position as you Nick - I read the comics in the 80s and early 90s and then read them off and on for free while I worked in a comics shop but I've not bothered since. My brother's been on at me to read them as he says they've got good and I have checked out a few of the graphic novels. The style is generally very different from the 90s style - much less extravagant or showy in scripting or art, though the high-concept stuff is still there. Of the stuff I've tried, New X-Men (Grant Morrison, Frank Quitely) is readable, fast-paced, nasty, continuity-light action stuff and very enjoyable if you like Morrison's writing (I do); X-Force/X-Static is odd, funny, intriguing, original and lovely to look at but not quite as clever as the hype suggests*. If you liked the Image-style stuff then you might like Ultimate X-Men, a start-from-scratch violent romp which passes the time quite nicely.

*(As usual with superhero comics the "that's life" theory of criticism often applies - saying "sausages" is not praiseworthy unless it's a dog doing it; being quite brainy is not especially exciting unless it's a superhero comic.)

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I am enjoying New X-Men... it's somewhat clever clever, but it's good straight down the line X-Men stuff, actually engaging with the whole mutant-normals malarky.

X-Statix/X-Force - entertaining enough, but not quite so good to justify the space it would take up in the Vicarage were I to buy it.

the rest: shite. I should know, I've never read them.

Bishop, Cable, & Gambit are all after my time as a youthful X-Reader. Don't they all sport mullets?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I love those three. I TOO have just started buying comix after a ten year hiatus (what IS going on with all of us?). I enjoyed the current Uncanny X Men. What the fuck is Extreme X-Men, though? The art is nice (realistic body sizes for once!), and the dialogue is very minimalist - I even found an issue from about a year ago where there is not a SINGLE speech bubble, title, or sound effecr fro the whole comic. Pretty impressive and hardcore. There are some weird new mutants too: Chamber (energy where his mouth should be) and Husk (????).

QUESTIONS:

1.What happened to Rogue? Is she dead?
2. What happened to Cable and Gambit?

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

That silent issue was part of Nuff Said - where every Marvel comic was silent for a month. Most of them were crap.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I never stopped buying comics, I just stopped buying X-comics.

that no dialogue issue was from Marvel's Nuff Said thing, where they made all their comics come out with no dialogue for an issue.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaaaaah, now I know it was a Marvel-wide thing it somehow seems less impressive. Less creative whimsy, more agenda. How sad.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

So...mr DV, what current stuff would you reccomend for someone that used to enjoy X-comics, The Punisher, and Lobo? (read characters, grit, and black humour)

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

As a subthread can we ask Chris Claremont - C/D? I also read the first fifty or so Claremont X-Men recently and all the things I used to dislike about them (the rotten pompous dialogue, Kitty Pryde, etc.) I now REALLY REALLY HATED but at the same time I had to admit there was a really powerful soapy narrative drive going on.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking hell, I'm doing pretty much EXACTLY this too. "New X-Men" seems great so far, Husk and Chamber were in "Generation X" back in the day. Are they in "XTREME X-Men"? That's a horrible title.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I TOO have just started buying comix after a ten year hiatus (what IS going on with all of us?).

Nordicskillz, I love you, but Dur, the FILM!

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

How on EARTH could you possibly hate Kitty Pryde? That's like hating oxygen!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I'm always put off a bit in comics when it's really really obvious that the writer adores a new character they've created. They can't resist - particularly not if their names Chris Claremont - trying to hustle you into liking them too. Obviously in most other walks of pop culture I'm totally yay-keen on being manipulated but not with superheroes.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and who the fuck is X Man?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

A cockfarmer.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Nordicskillz, I love you, but Dur, the FILM

What film? ;)

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Seriously tho', I didn't start buying comics after the first one. If anything, it has more to do with me reading Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures Of Kavalier And Clay.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and who the fuck is X Man?

The son of Jean Grey and Cyclops.

How sad that I know this merely from living with a Marvel Comics fanatic? Where did I go wrong in life? Etc.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

My answer was true too though!!!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, yes it was.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

X-Man = Nate Grey, an alternate universe version of Cable without the techno-organic virus to curtail his mental powers. He was a bumbling bad-ass for a while, then became hella-annoying, then turned into a genial cross between John Constantine and The Authority's Doctor for a little while before getting killed.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha Nicole is married to an alternate version of ME)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

But isn't that Cable? And who's Stryfe? And Mr Sinister?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there a site anywhere which has a comics character index and lets you know what's happened to them since you stopped reading? I am very heartened that they killed off X-Man for example, it has brightened my day.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha Nicole is married to an alternate version of ME)

I swear to god, sometimes I think Dan = Dan. They even have the same name! And make the same jokes.

If it were not for the ICP and Cure love I would not know the difference!

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 22 May 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Stryfe = son of Scott and Jean gone bad. Cable = clone created by Mr Sinister of son of Scott and Jean gone good. (This may have been retconned to be the other way around.) X-Man = result of a genetic experiment run an alternate dimension Mr Sinister where the DNA of alternate Jean and alternate Scott were spliced together to make a super-mutant.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

So...mr DV, what current stuff would you reccomend for someone that used to enjoy X-comics, The Punisher, and Lobo? (read characters, grit, and black humour)

my brain is dysfunctional at the moment, I will endeavour to reply later.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan, can you tell us all about ever X Men character ever?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

No. I can only do about 80% of them.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Who's Mr Sinister?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably some gacky Belle and Sebastian fan.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Mr Sinister is an insane scientist obsessed with genetics and cloning. IIRC, he was a Victorian scientist whose family died, possibly as a side-effect of his experiements, I can't remember. This led him to dabble in cloning and he experimented on himself to prolong his life so he could continue his research. At some point along the way he lost his shit and ended up evil. (There was a miniseries that explained all of this but I didn't read it.)

Sinister first showed up during the Mutant Massacre; he's the guy who hired the Mauarders to go in and kill the Morlocks.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

:) I used to read these a long time ago too (more than ten years)? after Peter whats-his-face left X-Factor I got tired of them, but that would've been my favorite moment. As in the issue devoted entirely to the entire X-Factor team going to therapy! esp. Quicksilver, a favorite of mine b/c of being a miserable jerk and all. classic. Oh, it had lots of Mr. Sinister too - he and all the assorted evil types hanging out with him seemed to have pretty good senses of humor.

― daria g, Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom's synopses at the beginning of this thread are spot-on (ESPECIALLY about Claremont), as is Mr. Fail's condemnation of Uncanny as a soap opera on crack. Damned if I actually read Uncanny, but I heard that there's all sorts of female misrepresentation (ladies as raving love-starved zombies) & tokenist horseshit characters (Northstar as "the gay one", Nightcrawler as "the religious one"), and the writer (a Mr. Chuck Austen) has impressed me w/ his other comic work so much that I'm keeping 100 yards between myself and anything carrying his name. A few folks on the 'web are quick to praise the "new" Uncanny (especially in light of what Morrison's done to "fuck up" New X-Men - ha!), but everyone on the web is a mentalist, so whatever.

X-Treme X-Men is the title Marvel gave Chris Claremont to get his name back in the X-Men franchise & draw back some fannies that bailed back in the day (maybe? I'm just hypothesizing). Of course, Claremont's supposedly taking this opportunity to take not-so-veiled potshots at what Morrison's done in the past 2+ years, but to each their own. Never mind that Morrison's done more in the past 2+ years than Claremont did in the last 5 years of his first X-Men run, but, again, I'm an interweb mentalist - phear my shrink gun yadda yadda.

For my money, it's New X-Men, X-Statix, & Ultimate X-Men - tho Ultimate has lagged as of late (mostly in the art department) (& Mark Millar's scorched earth policy re: character motivation chafes a bit), there's a new creative team jumping on board that has me all sorts of geeked out. If you're looking to do some Cliff-notes-type catching up on what the hell's been going on the past couple of years, point your browser to The X-Axis, which talks about all of the new X titles (for better & for worse) - it's updated every Monday (GMT). If you want to just browse Trade Paperbacks @ your local bookstore, sit yourself down w/ "E is for Extinction" & the first X-Force TP collecting the early Milligan / Allred days. (The latest New X-Men story arc - "Murder at the Mansion" - is probably as good, if not better, than that Extinction arc.)

And it's probably best for everyone involved that all that nonsense revolving around Cable & Madelyne Pryor & Rachel Summers & Mr. Sinister be shoved in a paper shredder ASAP.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread makes me sad.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Which part - the insular fan boy camraderie, the recitation of trivial comic book continuity ephemera, the dismissal of the same by yours truly, or the fact that you're not the best at what you do?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

the fact that you all still care.

the fact that I still care.

(and please dave, you "dismissing" comic book nerdity is like a serial killer poo pooing the latest crime statistics while at the office and dreaming about the frozen head waiting for him at home.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Too true, too true.

BTW, time for lunch!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

And I'm not dismissing comic book nerdity at all! I'm just dismissing that wee bit of continuity that Dan et. al. discussed. Clones just don't work.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking of caring - the news of a Claremont / Byrne reunion (on JLA) is intriguing me WAY too much.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

That was an intensely stupid period in X-Men history, yes.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Funny, I just got back into comics too. Hmm.
Nordic, I recommend the League of Extraordinary Gentleman. My latent new fanboy pants are palpating for Issue #6. Lying down now.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm also quite intrigued about the new Justice League International revival. And recently, I've been popping into Mega-City One at a rate unheard of since 1993. Not actually buying anything, though. Mmm. Ahh, there's no excuse.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

In my circles, we can get regular briefings from old pals who are still avid readers. A great moment was when Andrew L heard of Mr Sinister and couldn't stop giggling except to ask "Is he a goodie or a baddie?"

I'm a big fan of New, and X-Statix and Ultimate are worth trying. Note that there are lots of reprints available cheaply in the Essential series.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 May 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

my comic recommendation is "100 Bullets". It's noir-y.

however, I keep recommending it and no one else ever seems to take to it, so it might be a special DV oriented comic.

I also like Y-The Last Man (all males bar one man and his monkey are killed in a mysterious plague), the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (the second series RoXoR), and others.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 22 May 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

No, "100 Bullets" is excellent. I wish I wasn't poor, I'd still be buying it.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 May 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm also quite intrigued about the new Justice League International revival.

???????? "Justice League International" ruled, what's da revival all about?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 22 May 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

If it isn't about Oreos and Batman punching Guy Gardner in the face, it ain't a revival.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

It's the same creative team, but no Guy Gardner. However, there is some Mary Marvel action, because there ain't no JLI w/out a little whitebread action.

WE WANT G'NORT!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 22 May 2003 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

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Is this the storyline (The Draco?) where Nightcrawler & buds are on the Isla de Demonica (or some island named with the same amount of inspiration engendered by that bit of vowel attachment) finding out that, in fact, Nightcrawler is not a mutant, but actually the spawn of Satan (or Lucifer) (or that red skinned horny guy from _Legend_)?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 27 November 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Good grief, not another one! Marvel already have a Son Of Satan and a daughter-in-law of Satan (Patsy Walker!).

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

MY GOD Daver tell me you're lying.

(BTW I am mailing that mix CD I made for you two years ago on SATURDAY. Has your address changed?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

X-men Rule.

― Johnathan Banks, Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...

Anything interesting happened in X-land recently? X-Men Legends on Xbox has aroused my interest again. I read the first two volumes of GM's New X-Men and am waiting for 3 and 4 to arrive. I also read volume 1 of the Xtreme X-Men and it was shit.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus I ordered some volume of X-Men Legends reprint thing that has X-Men 1-7 in it, the Jim Lee era ones that I loved. I can't find any reprint of the concurrent Uncanny X-Men from that time though, which is a shame, cos I think I preferred them. Also my brother bought Essential X-Men Volume 1 and his head is exploding at all the alternate-reality stuff I've tried to talk him through over the last week.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Get the first (Joss Whedon/John Cassady) Astonishing X-Men trade!!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0785107541.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

This?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

No? No. No!

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0785115315.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

This?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

yknow what a great xmen storyline was? proteus. that shit ruled. also, the 240-250s, as thats where i jumped on. also, the xfactor issues that joe quesada drew. nothing coherent here, but i totally miss reading xmen.

― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: Yes. Though get the New X-Men stuff first: Astonishing is a (very, very) well-performed exercise in showing what people liked so much about Claremont's run, while NXM is genuinely brilliant.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got some of the NXM stuff, and am getting the rest. Explain this though please; Astonishing is a (very, very) well-performed exercise in showing what people liked so much about Claremont's run - what was it people loved about Claremont's run, in your opinion?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Soap opera. Good soap opera, with actual consistent relations between characters, and feelings all over the place.

You may or may not have a problem with the speed and spin of the dialogue - it's unsuprisingly very Buffy.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It also picks up right after the end of New X-Men and uses most of the same characters, so you should finish that first.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm liking the sound of this. I'm investigating.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ARGH! I have just inadvertently found out the truth about Xorn whilst browsing reader reviews on Amazon.com. Bugger. Oh well, it inspired me to order volumes 5, 6 and 7 of GM's run, and also volume 1 of Wheedon's.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I stopped reading New X-Men when GM stopped writing it, though I gather they did another title re-launch/re-arrange shortly thereafter anyway. Uncanny X-Men sucked last time I read it.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The relaunch must be the Astonishing X-Men as mentioned above, I think.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

You think correctly. Also I heartily recommend the Morrison/Whedon stuff.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, be careful though, there IS a current book called New X-Men, but it was the one that used to be called New Mutants, I think. Marvel randomly switched all the titles around at one point in hopes of confusing consumers into buying more comics.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Batman could pwn any/all of the X-Men anyway.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't be daft, Ian. Batman is rubbish.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Now, now. Whomever's name is on the front of the comic book would pwn the other. And it would never happen anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

nick!!! Batman is NOT rubbish! Read one Batman: Year One by Frank Miller.

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Batman vs Emma Frost

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SPIDER-MAN VS STORM: WHO WOULD WIN?????????

― The Ghost of rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i read the series for about 4-5 years. started in the 250s, stopped right at the Age of Apocalypse, have about 150 ish of Uncanny or so.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Spider-Man and Storm are both Marvel, it's only a matter of time!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.xbooks/browse_frm/thread/db027ec2d5f2a289/addf2bb7de599a1d?q=Spider-Man+vs+Storm+basement&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3DSpider-Man+vs+Storm+basement%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#addf2bb7de599a1d

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, I remember reading and liking the first book of the Ultimate X-Men series. Is that still around? And if so, how far have they gotten along?

― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHA, awesome

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"Do you know how much energy it would take to create an Artic Winter?
And Spider-Man will still be inside a building, so how will this affect him?
If the building collapses, he will be under the rubble, but safe."

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Good times.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the xfactor issues that joe quesada drew.

hah! ok, I admit, I had a very brief phase of reading the x-books right about then. although my favorite story out of the whole thing by far was when Peter David finally just cut to the chase and sent the whole X-Factor team to the psychiatrist for a whole issue.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I've slowly been downloading complete x-men torrents.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

nine years pass...

Saw the X-Men Dark Phoenix anthology in my local library and read it for the first time since I was 13. Lots of the dialogue is corny as hell, obviously, but it gave me such a rush. I never liked fantasy books so this was my Narnia or Middle Earth. I loved those guys. Kinks notwithstanding, Claremont could really create a world and he was trying to do adult (or at least "adult") emotions when few other writers were. Writing lots of interesting female characters still seems to be a challenge for some people. Plus he had a gift for pacing: Dark Phoenix and Days of Future Past are wonderful feats of storytelling, complex but easy to follow. Basically, I could have done a lot worse at 13.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 4 July 2014 13:21 (eleven years ago)

Think you need to give John Byrne an awful lot of the credit for the pacing of those stories.

― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 4 July 2014 13:27 (eleven years ago)

Of course. Good point. After reading the Avengers Skrull invasion TPB and finding it incomprehensibly disjointed, I was really struck by how smoothly the Claremont/Byrne stuff flows. A hell of a lot happens and it all makes sense.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 4 July 2014 13:41 (eleven years ago)

A couple Portland writers have been doing a podcast attempting to explain the Xmen:

http://www.rachelandmiles.com/xmen/

It's fairly informative. Also, a _lot_ of Claremont peccadillos somehow made it into the series

― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 4 July 2014 13:58 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, that podcast is hella good

― how's life, Friday, 4 July 2014 16:35 (eleven years ago)

Yeah that whole Byrne/Claremont run, from like Arcade/Proteus til Days of Future Past, has a real great vibe to it, for lack of a better word. Doc Casino was doing a cool blog where he and a friend discussed a lot of this part of the run but it's over now. I think all the reviews of the Byrne stuff are still up. I will see if I can drum up a link.

― noir-ish need apply (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 4 July 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)

I thought that was never finished....?

― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 July 2014 22:56 (eleven years ago)

is kitty active in any x-titles atm?

― Mordy, Friday, 4 July 2014 23:12 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, she's the mentor/professor figure to a bunch of the newer kids.

― it's not rocker science (WilliamC), Saturday, 5 July 2014 00:03 (eleven years ago)

which title is that?

― Mordy, Saturday, 5 July 2014 00:07 (eleven years ago)

All-New X-Men. She may be in some of the other titles but I'm only reading the two Bendis ones, and getting tired of those.

― it's not rocker science (WilliamC), Saturday, 5 July 2014 00:13 (eleven years ago)

Also, the first years of Wolverine & the Xmen, which is set at the Academy, and has Doop.

It's worth it for Doop.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz37zsXHkZ1qbn6jwo1_500.jpg

― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 5 July 2014 00:23 (eleven years ago)

Shakey --:Doc Casino's blog was never finished but iirc they did make it all the way through the Byrne run

― noir-ish need apply (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 5 July 2014 15:42 (eleven years ago)

four years pass...

Just got the the grand design compilation, it’s oversized at 11 x 17 or something and is printed in old style drab style

― calstars, Friday, 27 July 2018 23:26 (seven years ago)

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