a casino in Maine?! what of our pride!

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Many peopl ein Maine are opposed to a casino here, but I really can't see teh problem. I mean, the Indians deserve some payback, and we need more tax money. what do you say?

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they should do something more Maine-specific. Like a moose-racing track.

― hstencil, Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's face it, gambling is a basic human right, like scratching an itch or picking a scab. If you ban gambling, you might as well outlaw childbirth.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

plus it does great things for the state economy - just look at Mississippi!

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

....or even Atlantic City!

My fav. casino story is that Missouri passed a riverfront gambling law, where the fine print was about how "riverfront" means surrounded by water on all sides. So, these enterprising casino owners created a small artificial lake in the middle of Missouri and plopped their "riverfront casino boat" right in the middle. I think it was tied up in court, but all I got to say is... crafty!!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and at my old job, I used to watch the old ladies go to the Greektown Casino in Detroit to spend their -- MY! -- social security money. I found their cackling to be disturbing.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I say do it - I lived in Maine long enough to know there's nothing else to do - especially in the winter. (Well, that's not entirely true....)

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Man I'm serious, I'd totally pay to watch some moose racin'.

― hstencil, Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I say.... go for the gambling, stay for the prostitutes.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

LOBSTER RASSLIN!

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

why not? there is nothing to do there.

― kephm, Thursday, 22 May 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

isn't the whole point of visiting maine the 'nothing to do there'?

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

That and blueberries.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

It's because they drink too much* Moxie.

*Too much = any. Really, it tastes like what I imagine the business end of a tar mop would taste like. Only carbonated.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Soda isn't supposed to be thick and viscous, and indeed, Moxie isn't... but it tastes like it is.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It isn't viscous OR thick. Geez luna, no wonder you don't like it, you were drinking the syrup. It's meant to go in carbonated water, you know.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I said it wasn't - it just tastes like it is. You won't convince me otherwise.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It tastes like Heaven and all things good, plus bubbles.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Then Heaven is a helluva lot different than I imagined it to be...

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't get to go, you keep dissing the Moxie. (It's good for ice cream floats, too!)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

There's horror and then there's horror... a Moxie float? That's got to be the #1 drink in HELL.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The #1 most requested drink, because it's the one DENIED to them, on account of Moxie being like the best thing in the universe and therefore nowhere to be found anywhere in Hell. Except the Hell that is north-of-Boston.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I think all that cold addled your brain.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Psh. Heretic.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Moxie drinker!

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Daaaaaaamn right.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

If hating Moxie is wrong, sugar, I don't want to be right.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

why drink moxie when you can have cough syrup?

― kephm, Thursday, 22 May 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Moxie does not taste like cough syrup, you palate-impaired heathen.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

where are the casinos in Maine going to be? on indian land, or anywhere else?

i've never had Moxie, sorry. Frank's is probably better.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

See? It's not just me. It's me and millions of other people. You only have 70 year old farmers on your side.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Every single guy I know in New England except one loves Moxie. It's just the chicks who can't handle it, and the weakassed folks of other regions.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

You must only know 70 year old farmers then, because no one I know except my friend's dad (and he died a few years back - I THINK THE MOXIE KILLED HIM) ever could choke it down.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

But you know Mainiacs, whereas I know Granite Staters, whose appetites are that much more refined. Moxie is the one actual source of things that have some sort of taste to them in north-of-Boston. I'm pretty sure the Puritans thought seasonings were the Devil's spice rack.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

hey the old man doesn't exist anymore. who cares what new hampshire people think!

;-p

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I know lots of people who live in NH. I do concede, though, that it is one of the few things that tastes like something in New England, the problem being that it tastes LIKE ASS.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Seasonings in New England are still limited to salt, pepper and ketchup, aren't they?

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but -- but --

Fuck, you're right. They have lost their figurehead. Soon New Hampshire will be just one big parking garage and liquor store for Massachusetts.

(Oh wait ...)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Salt, pepper, ketchup, molasses, and Bell's Seasoning for Thanksgiving stuffing. And butter for lobster. Cause in New England, that counts as a seasoning. ("Corn too bland? Ahhh, put some butter on there, there you go.")

My mother's boyfriend doesn't like having spaghetti very often, because it's ethnic food, and the jarred sauce is too spicy.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgot molasses... damn, I knew there was something. And butter, of course - but I don't eat lobster, so it was never an issue.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

++Every single guy I know in New England except one loves Moxie. It's just the chicks who can't handle it.

yo, i am not chick. & its red hot dogs & lobstah! that maine is good for.

― ke[hm, Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

moxie makes a decent expectorant-serious. .

― kephm, Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe if they make it in pill form...

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

They used to make Moxie candy of some kind. Gum, I think?

I have ONE CAN OF MOXIE left, and should probably drink it before I move, in case it explodes or something on the way Midwestwards. I should post a blow-by-blow of the transcendent experience.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

That's like inducing vomiting. You may as well drink ipecac.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm gonna totally mess up New Orleans on my way out, if you don't watch it. Hurricane Bill will wipe the place off the map!

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

You will not - where would you ever get cajun food? I ain't skeered of you.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

what about celery soda? i have only found it in maine & nyc.
it is so good.

― kephm, Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

It'll be this whole big "if I can't have it, no one can" thing. Besides, I'd just go out to Acadiana for food.

Celery soda's great -- you can get it here, but only because of Tulane.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Still, I know you won't do it.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 22 May 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

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I give in.
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― luna (luna.c), Saturday, 24 May 2003 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)

You've given in and claim not to be a lie-filled bag of devils, so if ... (... devil dogs ... they have those in NH ...)

*cough* So if at any point in the future you claim Moxie is vile, foul, grotesque, or made out of tar, any sort of excretion from any organism, cough syrup, etc., you will therefore be proven to be full of lies, and everything I have said will thus be correct.

Not that it isn't already.

(And see, dig the pic, Moxie was Red Bull before Red Bull was Red Bull.)

― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 24 May 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I merely gave in to the fact that you believe it's the carbonated beverage with heaven in every bubble. To be fair, I'll reserve further judgment until I have one again.

I'm still not the Devil - they don't let devils have halos to polish.

― luna (luna.c), Saturday, 24 May 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

*polishing halo*

― luna (luna.c), Saturday, 24 May 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

I had a Moxie. A real one. From Maine. I gagged. I swore. I spat. I drank some more. I spat again. Swore a little more. Put more ice in it. Drank the rest. Spat again, almost completely supressed my vomit reflex and brushed my teeth.

It's better than I remember!

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You know what a friend of mine brought me on Monday?

A CAN OF MOXIE.

Cause they LIKE me. Cause Moxie is GOOD. Cause people APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRINK IT.

(And apparently that weird like orange-flavored Moxie and cream soda Moxie and all really is ACTUAL Moxie, or so said friend claims, and we are going to look for it when we someday road-trip to Cincinnatti.)

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Always thought Moxie was a state of being, not a drink

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

But I TRIED it... do you see? And I admit that it wasn't as bad as I'd previously thought. Come on, throw me a bone here.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

You swore and spat and brushed your teeth! No bone for you!

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Nevertheless, I didn't pour it down the sink, as was my intial instinct.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

initial, too

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Chicks just can't handle the Moxie, I'm telling you.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Handle this...

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

After you've sworn and spat and brushed your teeth?

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Well... yeah.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

++I had a Moxie. A real one. From Maine. I gagged..

are there Moxie copycats? i always thought there was only one Moxie.

― kephm, Thursday, 26 June 2003 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

There's some west-coast thing which is called Moxie but which, from descriptions, doesn't sound like it. And apparently it doesn't have Mr Moxie on the cans/labels. I thought they were the Moxie responsible for the Moxie-in-flavors, but am still investigating the latter phenomenon.

Of course, regardless of whether there are Moxie copycats at present, we know that there shall be, and that we must remain vigilant and wary of them, for as it says in the Gospel of Mark, "False Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect."

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 June 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Having said that, I think you yourself put it best, Tep - Moxie does now, and shall forever, taste like hell's own lungbutter.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 June 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

is this the shit that comes in the orange can? Tastes like medicine?

― Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 26 June 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

to steal gygax!'s analogy bit:

moxie : jagermeister :: o'douls : budweiser

― otto midnight, Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

chris-you live in woostah & you dont know what moxie is?? whats next-no slippers?

― kephm, Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Dammit, Chris!

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you see?? 70 year old farmers, babe.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Moxie is one of the very best things on the planet, dammit. I will keep saying it as many times as I have to.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

That may be a LOT.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Luckily I have automated it with a swanky PCjr that does nothing but run 10 MOXIE IS THE BEST THING ON THE PLANET | 20 GOTO 10 all day.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 June 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Tis just til a virus creeps in, and wipes out the command.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Moxie is in no way better than orgasms. You are obviously deluded.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I said "one of"!

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Luckily I have automated it with a swanky PCjr that does nothing but run 10 MOXIE IS THE BEST THING ON THE PLANET | 20 GOTO 10 all day.

Read it again, pal.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 June 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, but the FIRST time, I said "one of." Dammit.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 June 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Cancelled out by the second. Nyah.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 June 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Psh, computer error.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 26 June 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I think not.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 26 June 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

feel the moxie swank.

then cough it all up.

― kephm, Thursday, 26 June 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Kephm, I kiss you.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 27 June 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

You're all out of my will.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 27 June 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I want the velvet Jesus, and I will stop at nothing to get him.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 27 June 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Pfah, velvet Jesus will never suffer a non-Moxie-drinking owner.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 27 June 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

You wait and see.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll be dead. Unless you're planning on sneaking into the ... well, I'm not having a funeral or being cremated, so the ... Teptuary, I guess ... which is a word I just made up and I'm not sure what it would mean, but it's somewhere you could sneak into, and anyway, unless you're planning on sneaking in there and jarring up my eyeballs and MAKING ME WATCH YOU TAKE THE VELVET JESUS, I must respond with nuh-uh!

Plus I wouldn't let you.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Phear me and my mad velvet jesus stealin' skillz, yo.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Freaky.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

The current oposition to the casino in Maine is the most ridiculous thing since Arnold won the election last Tuesday. Not only is it predominated by white boys from Portland (who think a casino would be unwholesome or something, especially to inflict upon the poor people of Sanford who deserve HIGHER END jobs (despite the fact that nearly nobody in Sanford has HAD a job for the past 50 odd years))who ask in earnest, "Well if a casino would make so much money for the Indians, why doesn't the state build one themselves?" because evidently any debt relating to our killing their people, taking their land, giving them alcohol, and lending small pox blankets has already been repaid.

And it looks right now like the "no" campaign is going to win, with ZERO relevent arguments aside from one about drunk driving ("we'll have to employ more cops!" wait, more jobs? OH NO!!) and a full-fledged completely unobjective FEAR campaign by the Press Herold. The whole thing is disgustingly condescending and racist, with (respected) people claiming everything from our moral duty not to get people addicted to gambling, which, claims girl on tv, is america's fastest growing addiction (which by the way is actually heroin but nevermind) to our moral duty not to give the Indians money they would just squander away on alcohol. We must protect the innocent from vices! Why make money for the state and for the tribes and ruin our PRISTINE LAKES?

(and every year there's an investigative report on why high school kids grow up in maine, love it, and then leave... well 'cause pretty trees don't feed families - it's pretty obvious i think)

But anyway: explain to me why this casino would be a horrible thing, eh?

― j c, Monday, 13 October 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

YOU'VE ALL LOST YOUR MIND!!!(or maybe you just spend too much at the last few state owned booze stores)

― Herman Fischer, Saturday, 1 November 2003 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

this would be a better deal if the state had more input and the buissnessis in the casino were taxed at a fare rate compared to those in the suronding area.also the tribes shold not make this about them. people get jelous of making so many ethnics so rich so quick.i am sorry thats the way it is even though no one wants to admitt that some dont even believ they could feel that way so they take any excuse.if the tribes want to win this they should give me a call.

― louis bruns, Monday, 10 November 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

11/10/2003
I Have Vote yes for a casino for the state of Maine.
Nick Reynolds

― Nick Reynolds, Monday, 10 November 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

well, maybe they will caome up with a new proposal for next year. or maybe they will build it in New Hampshire and no one will come to maine anymore

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever mock Moxie again, ever.

― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 16 November 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHAHA!

“We are really excited about the limited test launch of our new flavored Turkey & Gravy beverage. This seasonal flavor allows us to enter a new market segment, the meal replacement market. The new flavor will also appeal to new consumers, those who prefers a savory type flavor to the traditional soda flavors,” says Peter van Stolk, President & C.E.O. “With consumers becoming more and more health conscious, Jones Soda’s Turkey & Gravy flavored beverage is a zero calorie and zero carbohydrate beverage that can be served warm or cold with a full flavor that will meet and will exceed our customer’s expectation.”

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 November 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

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