why i didnt go to the doctor

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i probably already told you this 'cause it was a thing i was telling people, i thought it was funny, but see a while back i was waiting in the dr's office & there was this lady in there with a horrible kid that was throwing tantrums & stopping this other kid from playing with the toys in there 'cause he wasn't doing it right or something &, oh you know he was just horrible & see this woman was really working hard trying to repress her urge to scream at the kid or hit him or whatever she wouldve done if there hadnt been a crowd of people around, & yeah so i felt sort of some syhmpathy for her down in there somewhere i guess but mainly it was making me despise her that she was so caught in this trying to keep up appearances shit in a crowd of people who were all pointedly trying to act like they didnt care anyway (i dunno how other peops were dealing with it, i was pretending to read but of course was completely unable to & was staring at the same page for a half hour or an hour or however long it was), man it was so shitty & to make it worse (but sort of funnier) i could hear her threatening & cursing the kid under her breath 'cause i was sitting right next to her & maybe she thought "this man's engrossed in his book, he won't notice" or maybe she just thought "who gives a shit what this crummy ass junky looking bum thinks anyway" but whatever, she was saying lots of really unpleasant crappy things to the kid & she kept coming up with silly shit delivered in these super menacing terms of "OK I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN TO *THIS* BUT!!!" & it'd be just super pathetic bullshit but anyway the best one she came out with (i nearly laffed out loud but not quite) was "LOOK CALUM OR IAN OR WHATEVER THE LITTLE BUGGER'S NAME WAS I FORGET YUOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO LEARN TO WAIT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT, *WAITING*", christ it was such a horrible depressing moment, did i mention i almost laffed out loud. anyway & you know what, after all that horseshit of trying so hard to not uh "discipline" the kid in front of an audience, finally everyone was gone (i was the last patient to be seen of course) the receptionist said to me s.th. to the effect of what a horrible poisonous kid &, quote, "i would've taken him outside & *quick backhand smacking gesture*, you know?", i was actually pretty shocked but yeah i suppose that was pretty funny too. anyway that's what i thought about straight away after i thought Oh man this ringing in my ear is getting louder & more intolerable & maybe i oughta see a dr. about it....uh yeah maybe it can wait. anyway i forget the point of this now but , oh yeah why is it such a pain to deal w. other humans, man they all suck, probably the quickest way to deal with this ringing in my ear would be just to kill myself, what do you think, should i do it?

duane, Monday, 26 May 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not really going to kill myself, i just had to come up w. a cheap punchline in a hurry 'cause someone wants to use the phone

duane, Monday, 26 May 2003 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

but yeah there's certainly levels & degrees Of "intolerable" & yeah i probably already said , oh well at least i saw the funny side

duane, Monday, 26 May 2003 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

the only place more depressing than the waiting room at the 24 hour clinic is the waiting area at the dole office

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 26 May 2003 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I once heard a toddler asking his mother, crying, 'Mum, how do I know that you truly love me?' That's sort of similar, except it was the toddler who uttered the telling words instead of the mother.

m-ry-nn (m-ry-nn), Monday, 26 May 2003 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

theres only one thing worse than a bratty kid. THREE bratty kids who won't stop trying to beat each other up when you're trying to babysit them. can someone tell me what the appeal of having children is anyway?

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 26 May 2003 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

They're adorable.

Dan I., Monday, 26 May 2003 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

...in death.

Dan I., Monday, 26 May 2003 06:41 (twenty-two years ago)

One word: vasectomy.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 26 May 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think that will be necessary

duane, Monday, 26 May 2003 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't know tho, would it stop this noise in my ear?

duane, Monday, 26 May 2003 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

that, of course, depends upon what is currently in the ear.

Dan i., Monday, 26 May 2003 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The last time I tried to explain my stance on having kids I got asked if I was "okay" (like, mentally). And it's made me a little self-conscious about my feelings, but whatever.

Seems like there's an awful lot of people whining that they never asked to be born. It's a bit silly to complain about this unless you're planning to kill yourself, but these folks do have a point. Having a child is a completely selfish act -- you're doing it so you can have a kid, but what does the kid get? Eighty or so years saddled with the responsibilities and difficulties that come with merely being alive. And if the kid's the same sort of misfit weirdo-depressive that many of us are, he'll be miserable his whole life just like most of us are, and everything he does to make himself happy less miserable will be self-indulgent and escapist and probably very expensive! The "gift" of life, huh? Thanks, mom.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 26 May 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think that will be necessary

To who?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 26 May 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Having a child is a completely selfish act

Okay, look. I have made a final, irreversible decision not to have kids, but I still think everything you just said is seriously fucked up. I didn't decide not to have kids because life is miserable. It's not -- at least, mine's not, not most of the time. The mind makes a hell of heaven, etc. And having children is not always a selfish act -- it can, in fact, sometimes be a sincere and valuable contribution to the world. Kids can be terrors, sure. But they can be great, too. And whether you think life on this planet is shit ornot, it must continue. So, there's that.

I decided not to have kids not because I'm fucked up, and not because I'm selfish (that always baffled me -- people accusing you of being selfing for saying you DON'T want something), but simply because I have other things to do. Like, for instance, pay attention to he people that are already here, instead of to the very very special ones that I've made.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 26 May 2003 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Jody, are you 'okay'?

oops (Oops), Monday, 26 May 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a girl I work with, as a temp. Temps come in all different varieties, from those on their way to somewhere better to those on their way to rock bottom. The temps all meet in the middle.

Anyway, there's this girl. She's 19, and she has two kids. One kid is in kindergarden, which means he's at least five years old, and the math there is disturbing. The other one is about ten months old, and she has told other girls in the office with a certain "aren't-I-naughty" pride that she feeds the baby small bottles of beer to put it to sleep at night. Undiluted beer.

I have learned all of this upsetting information from three of my co-workers who I have lunch with every day. All three have kids. The white girl takes great pride in her baby, but also proudly proclaims the ways in which she takes no responsibility for the child. She gets drunk a lot, and lets her mother raise the kid in the meantime. One of her favorite phrases is, "That's what gramma's are for!" and she says it without a hint of irony. She truly expects someone else to raise her kid for her, and mercifully for the child, she seems to have found someone to do it.

One of the black girls has two kids -- both of which she seems to take reasonable care of, but neither of which she seems terribly dedicated to. I only learned she had kids after weeks of talking to her. And the other black girl seems to have her shit totally together, or at least as much as a desperately poor person can. She works her ass off at the job (certainly more than I do) to support her child, and she doesn't drink, and she doesn't do drugs, and she deeply resents her co-workers' oversharing about feeding their kids beer. "Just 'cause I'm black doesn't mean I'm a fuck-up." She's my hero.

I came home one afternoon from a day of hearing about this awful awful shit, and I was depressed. I was a little indignant, actually. I asked my girlfriend, "How can people be so stupid?!" Her first response was, "Now you know how I felt when I started working at Planned Parenthood." Her next response was, "Because they're poor, and people don't care about poor people. Poor people have never been told anything... not how to avoid getting pregnant, not how to take care of their children, not one single thing. Because the lack of this information is exactly the kind of thing that keeps them poor."

I was convinced, for a whole day afterwards, that having kids was a disgusting, sleazy thing to do. Having kids was gross and money-sucking, and apparently humans don't have the capacity to take proper care of their offspring, and all breeding should be outlawed until we can settle some of the larger issues here.

But then I thought what many parents must think at some point -- if these are the only people who are breeding, I need to get about settling the score post haste. Because I would never treat my kids that way, I would never be such a terrible parent. And I wouldn't. How can smart people sit by and let the stupid people do all the breeding? What kind of world will that lead to?

It's too late for me to consider all this. I'm out of the loop, and besides, I really don't want kids. Not for myself, anyway. But after hanging around the bottom of the barrel parents, I have a lot less contempt for the kinds of parents who stroll their kids around Pottery Barn on Sunday in expensive clothes and expensive strollers. At least they're not feeding their kids beer. And if I were a parent, I'd do them all one better -- no beer, and no Pottery Barn.

But like I said, I have other things to do.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 26 May 2003 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, because how good a parent (or person) you are is directly proportional to how much money you have.

ps you are dumb*


*poor

webber (webber), Monday, 26 May 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to have to a bunch of kids just to annoy people I know.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 26 May 2003 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i hope theyre all retarded

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Monday, 26 May 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

nah just kiddin

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Monday, 26 May 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

It's ok not to have kids.

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder what happened to duane : /

wsn't he og dunedin?

•F•U•I•U•D• (cozwn), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 23:03 (sixteen years ago)

dunedin didhimin

velko, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)


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