Roland Garros 2003

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Hey, it's time for another of my undersubscribed tennis threads!

The French Open has been going for a few days and I've very carefully waited until Federer was out of the event so he doesn't crumble under the weight of my Web-expressed expectations. He already has!

Today's highlights: two gloriously named winners in R2 of the women's singles: an 18-year-old from Flintstone, GA called Ashley Harkleroad and a Madagascan (!) named Dally Randriantefy. I think she tried to sell me a septic tank a few weeks back. Yevgeny K is out in five and Youzhny has flopped at the feet of Attila the HUN.

But, more exciting than that, I'm going to Paris tomorrow evening. The long-promised tickets never materialised (only successful applicants from UK: Cliff Richard and outskirts of Henman family), so we'll be chancing our arm with the touts-le-monde.

Share your dusty-plimsolled baseline-grinding thrills here!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

*Harkleroad*?

I have found myself reading lots of interviews with Kim Clijiijijsters.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw "Chino" Rijo at Bar Sir Winston on Monday night. Then we saw him and his drunk Chilean friend get bounced from the line at Queen. That's all I know.

felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

is the pinefox having a crush?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd love someone to ask her what it's like dating the gg allin of tennis.

angelo (angelo), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ashley Harkleroad ROCKS. I love her, and the poetic justice of her taking out Hantuchova (aka last year's Harkleroad) is gravy.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Currently on court: Agassi breaking back early vs Ancic, Philippoussis being literally pistol-whipped by Moya, Xavier heroically clambering back from a two-set deficit vs Koubek.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to start this thread. I like Harkleroad as Hantuchova better than Hantuchova. When is Guga v. Hewitt?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Literally?

I started wondering what 'pistol-whipped' meant (literally) the other day when Col. Tim Collins was accused of doing it to an Iraqi officer. Surely a pistol is not the most effective of whips.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

When is Guga v. Hewitt?

Last 16, Monday, if they're both still in it.

Pinefox: true. Perhaps it attains whip-like properties if attached to a length of rope. This is precisely what is currently happening on Court Chatrier.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Cor.

I'm missing it.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahhh, the 88th anniversary of the invention of the deflector gear!


Is Ashley any relation to Zoot Horn Rollo?

Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Cripes, Agassi is a set and a break down to Ancic. Should we worry?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, Agassi is now two sets down (7-5 6-1) to the teenage Croat. And I'm going home... oh, for a WWW-enabled pocket device/miniature satellite TV receiver that worked on the tube.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh you KNOW Agassi gonna win this now!

Aaron A., Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Aggasi is a TANK. A scary balding TANK.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Pretty astonishing recovery, but Ancic's time will come. Next up is another two-set deficit recovery guy - Malisse. It would be nice to actually see that in the flesh. Hopefully I can avoid being scalped by the first money-grabbing ticket-waving hoodlum I meet coming out of Porte d'Auteuil metro. I trust my Bulgarian companions can guide me to a bargain; any tips from those who've been to Roland Garros?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 29 May 2003 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

James Blake two sets to one down overnight to Ljubicic - resumes shortly on Court 17...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 29 May 2003 09:20 (twenty-two years ago)

For reasons I can't fathom, Ljubicic has been stuck at triple match point for ten minutes now (all other scores updating as normal). Injury? Glitch? Input from Eurosport-hogging layabouts required.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 29 May 2003 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

That happened yesterday during the Agassi/Ancic match, too. A coworker and I were EXTREMELY annoyed.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 May 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

(FYI, Blake lost. http://www.frenchopen.org has the info.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 May 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, frenchopen.org is the one I use, with the pop-up real-time scoreboard (rather than the full-page one, which eats CPU like nobody's business). Shame about Blakey; at least SchalkenAllOver has just battered Santoro. Bandy Dangerfield is locked in his customary see-saw battle, but Coutelot seems to have his number in the 5th.

Arazi-Kuerten is the stylist's (wet) dream contest, of course. There's an enormous satellite dish on the roof of our building...a trip to Maplin and some Rod Hull-style clambering about and I might be able to watch it.

Did Mikey Chang really cry on Court Chatrier on Tuesday? Good, I've never forgiven him for beating Edberg in that final.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 29 May 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Chewitt-DavyDarko was some kind of brutal epic - TWENTY breaks of serve before the #1 prevailed in a fourth set t/b. Hicham-Gustavo a let-down: Arazi's only won one of the first 16 games.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 29 May 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Rod Hull??

- "What was he doing on the *bloody* roof?"

- "He was fixing the aerial".

(etc)

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 May 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Best thread ever.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

OH MY GOD. Serena is DESTROYING Barbara Schett 6-0, 5-0(30-30).

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

HOW EMBARRASSING to get double-bageled in the 3rd round of a Slam tournament! Poor Barbara.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

scores like that show terrible the women's game is.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

It's more like how scary Serena is when she's on her game; on clay especially there are a good twenty players on the women's side who are very dangerous but Serena's just in a completely different league.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

well I think there's far more competition in the men's game and also more upsets in earlier rounds too.

I would be surprised if a non-seed gets to the quarter final stage in in the women's tournament in any of the four slams.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

There's more parity in the men's game, I will admit.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Radio 1 Newsbeat just said The Ball of Rage has gone out. Hooray!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

it realy did turn into summer just like that, huh

Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I was about to say REJOICE REJOICE THE HEWITT IST UMGEBRACHT and then I realized that I was probably inventing a new German idiom that meant something completely different.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

A Steady Mike thread without Steady Mike is like un jour sans soleil, n'est pas?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Saturday, 31 May 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Right, I'm back from Gaylord Paris... from four days of sweltering heat broken only briefly by a hailstorm of humbling ferocity enjoyed from a cosy Italian restaurant in Montmartre, from the world's best subway system with the best buskers (Bach? On an autoharp??), from a place where the text on suburban rail signs is right-justified (incroyable!), from flea markets in Porte des Vanves where the Michel Polnareff LPs are so plentiful you just leave them there.

Yes, I got into the tennis, through tout-mithering by proxy and swapping transactions of Finnissy-like complexity, Pam and I got to see about five hours on Court Phil Chatrier on Friday. All of Zabaleta-El Aynaoui (cracking stuff once Younes got stuck in; Mariano Z showing hitherto unknown finesse around the net... I like this forecourt stuff from the South Americans, I shall be dropping QuickTime footage of his dinks and nudges into my longform video When Clay-Courters Attack), the go-for-a-slash-and-you-missed-it Serena destruction of Schett and the first two-thirds of Agassi disAbeling Xavier. Plenty of screaming Belgians around us for that one, none of whom seemed to be encouraging their man to get to the frickin' net OR DIE on the Sword of Bald Inevitability. I should send Malisse my vid.

As the late afternoon sun threatened to vaporise the factor 25 right off our pasty flesh, we swapped the tickets back with their rightful owners (big shout going out to Caroline and Beatrice, who prefer Magui Serna to, well, almost anything) did a bit of a wander around the grounds then caught the Metro back to the 15eme Arr and some concentrated cooling.

The French TV coverage left a lot to be desired; leaving Costa-Lapentti at a vital stage of the fifth to switch to previewing the French Cup final (which didn't seem to start until HOURS later), positively sniggering at Henman's eating habits and his chances vs Ferrero and just generally NOT being Harry Carpenter, on his own in a bunker, with some bits of paper.

Right, that'll do.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 1 June 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and today was all about the women: Venus out! Capriati out! Chandra R still there! Clijsters in some kind of Lleyton empathy unforced-error blitz vs Tiny Maleeva until sense prevails. Henin drops a set. Serena in some kind of competitive match unusualness.

Did I mention above how a freshly dragged and watered clay court seen from 18 rows back in the top tier looks like the sort of mussed-up and still-shedding deep shagpile carpet you might have in a back bedroom - I mean, you wouldn't necessary choose that saturated orange yourself, but if it was there when you moved in, then OK, it's gonna be covered in empty boxes soon enough anyway?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 1 June 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Sad to see the end of the Fin(n): Jarkko N (who recovered from 1-6 1-6 1-4 vs Varlet in r2) slumped out today to Gonzales as the Latin takeover continued. Ferrero won with embarrassing ease, but Coria (this year's Magnus Norman/Kent Carlsson), who should've wrapped things up vs Zabaleta in the darkness last night, is now struggling against his compatriot. Oh... but he's just broken the Flashing Blade as Carolineno served for two sets all.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 2 June 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

costa-lapentti was an ODISSEY. the last two games were like a greek tragedy.

joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 2 June 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

costa-lapentti was an ODISSEY. the last two games were like a greek tragedy.

It was astonishing; Costa in his sleeveless T, all tatted and buff, finding some other gear when on the brink, swatting away drive volleys; Lapentti flailing away on the last spit of gas, alternating the gobsmacking and the godawful. Thank goodness for Eurosport and its eerily silent commentary.

I see Coria prevailed in five sets and nearly five hours vs Zabby Zou; that can't be the best prep for Agassi tomorrow. Costa swamped Clement today and faces Robredo or Guga next (first set Tommy R, 'avo 5-1 up in second).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 2 June 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

robredo is this year's surprise: first he beat hewitt, then guga!! i'm afraid costa will have to face his third advanced final against him.

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Robredo was milking the crowd after the Hewitt victory, perhaps he fancies himself as the People's Champion. I fear his unavoidable Alex Higgins life-collapse.

Petrova upset Venus's conqueror to move into the semis, Kim made short work of Conchita; my two faves are currently dooking it out: first set to Henin 6-3 over Chandra R. BigSerena-BiggerAmelie bloodbath just underway... Mme LeMesmer yet to win a point. Oh, now she has.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

robredo is the man.
look at guga's racket!

http://www.frenchopen.org/images/pics/large/bv_0602defaite.jpg

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a terrific photo. I presume GK just smashed the thing.

Can't quite believe quite how violently Rena minced John Le Mesurier; meanwhile, Verkerk is doijng hijs bijt for us pasty-faced North Europeans: two sets up vs Moya. Agassi sneaked the first set 6-4 vs Coria, but it'll be a lengthy struggle, I reckon.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

gosh I have missed so much. I need to start watching. Does anyone else think this is the best major there is? (I preferred clay when I was a player, even though I probably won more matches on hard courts due to my serve).

I watched Wimbeldon when I was in France many years ago. I always got a kick out of the announcers saying "Agassi ooh la la", which they actually did.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That photo looks like the guy at the top is summoning his racket to him by the powers of levitation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, there's more Ooh La La-ing on French telly then I ever expected. Even on the current affairs progs. It's like Peter Sissons saying "Bloody Norah" every five minutes.

Coria storming back vs Agassi: one set all and a break up in the third. Somehow LaMoya has broken the fearsome Rene van der Kerkoff serve (*averaging* 200km/h) and pinched the third set. Both five-setters, I think.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

It doesn't look good for the Agster: third set Coria 6-2 and he's already a break up in the 4th. Shame, I had a fanciful notion of a calendar-year Slam from AA this year a la Laver in his 30s.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Moya takes the 4th vs Verkerk... Agassi breaks back twice in the 4th vs Coria... now I'm off to the bloody Parcelforce depot in Charlton. Can interested parties please keep me informed telepathically? My brain PIN is 9775. Leave a message if I'm thinking about something else.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Thats what txting is 4, Mike.

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Charlton??

the pinefox, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ATTN JULIO:
I would be surprised if a non-seed gets to the quarter final stage in in the women's tournament in any of the four slams.

Nadia Petrova would like to say "BOO-YAH! IN DE FACE!"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Nadia Petrova would like to say "BOO-YAH! IN DE FACE!"

And she's now in the semis. Her qf was top-kwal stuff apparen', with 50-stroke rallies and the like. Though Harold Solomon and Eddie Dibbs used to have 160-stroke rallies back in the 70s and people tried to make clay-court tennis illegal cos of that.

Agassi gone, very possibly to the new champion. If he fails to make it we can always say, "it could've been brilliant, Coria." Ha ha ha. Moya flummoxed by Verkerk 8-6 in the fifth. Yay!

Still heavily Spanish-accented in t'other half. I know Costa and co have been through the wars this last week, but I'm hoping they delay their mid-season break until *after* Wimbledon this year. SW19 loses so much by not having these red dust magicians around; last year the grass played so slow and hard anyone of them could've won the thing.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

''Nadia Petrova would like to say "BOO-YAH! IN DE FACE!"''

yes dang!

but how many times has that happened over the last three years, say. Anyway, its great to see a non-seed in the quarter (and now semi) final stage. overall, my main point still stands.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Happened last year with Clarissa Fernandez at... Wimbledon? US Open? Can't remember.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

don't think it was wimbledon if it did. but er, still, my you agreed with my central point so um, there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

First tennis-induced guffaw of the season - "Bloody Norah!"

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Since they extended the seeding list to 32, unseeded quarter-finalists of either gender are less likely, but some recent female GS QFists ranked outside the top 20 at the time:

Aus Open 2003
Meghann Shaughnessy (#33)

US Open 2002
Elena Bovina (#61)

French Open 2002
Mary Pierce (OK, a former champ, but #132 at the time)
Paola Suarez (#47)
Clarisa Fernandez (#113)

Wimbledon 2002
Elena Likhovtseva (#35)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

THANK YOU MICHAEL. The top women are scarily good, but it's not like no one else never has a chance.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Just the facts, Dan, just the facts. The old strength-in-depth argument is one that will never favour the women, as there's generally a very small elite of 2-6 players on the WTA tour who very, very rarely lose to anyone outside their group. I don't really know why this is.

The one-sidedness of the elite's early-round matches in grand slams may have something to do with the serve not being quite so dominant in women's tennis; it's difficult to imagine Sampras or McEnroe in their prime beating vastly inferior talents one, love and one at Wimbledon, but that because it's unthinkable to break serve that often on grass (OK, I know Edberg whitewashed a fellow Swede on grass in the 80s). Not so great a difference between what Serena W has been doing this last week and Borg's untouchable years at Roland Garros in the 70s.

I also suspect there's greater stylistic division in the men's game, so that players unknown to most Wimbledon-watchers will dominate the clay-court season, then promptly fail to make it past round one at the All-England (or even show up). This could explain the wider mix of title winners on the men's circuit.

Robredo was quoted as saying he'd beaten the Ace (Hewitt) and the King (Kuerten), now he needed to defeat the Queen for the full deck of cards. This suggests that Tommy R is a lousy poker player and could soon face legal action from Albert Costa. Meanwhile, heh-heh, on court rather than in court, TR's doing very well - two sets up. Oh, hang on, Costa's taken the third. Not another bloody comeback.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't cope with this rhythm of loooong matches.
yesterday afternoon i got late at a meeting because i couldn't go away from the telly at home... i was sorry moya lost by such a small difference (he's my fellow citizen, you see), but i must admit that this kraftVerkerk guy seemed to come from a different planet! bloody serve!

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Unbelievable - Costa Regina wins from two sets down for the THIRD time in the event. As Clive Tyldesley would say, "Name on the cup!"

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Aargh - Petrova was serving for the first set vs Clijsters when I was forced to reboot; now there's no match on Ph Chatrier. What's going on?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Clijsters womped her 7-5, 6-1.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I must've been away for longer than I thought - the Clij only dropped one more game.

Encouragingly, Henin is 4-2 up (having lost half of her early double-break) vs Serena in the second semi.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

First set Justine 6-2! Bizarrely, she's winning less than half the points off her first serve, but 80-odd percent off her second. Serena obviously doesn't like being given something she has time to think about. I wish I could see this.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOO (and I like Justine)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

(Polnareff's!!!!)

Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 June 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Second set Serena 6-4; Justine not taking her break-point opportunities early in the set. The tide may have turned - JHH has just wasted another couple of chances to break at the start of the decider.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I will not cheer until this match is over, but I'm happier now.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Justine, twice a break down in the decider, has just served for the match at 5-4... and lost her serve to love, including a double fault.

I'm going through agonies here.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

5-5 in the third?

the pinefox, Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

5-6!

the pinefox, Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Justine breaks again on her fourth break point... I can hear the blood pounding in my ears.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

c'mon justine!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 5 June 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Sorry, Dan. It's not like Serena hasn't already got a few GS titles in her kit-bag. Celebrations here at work, the two Bulgarians I went to Paris with are on the verge of joyful tears. All Belgian final! A dream realised!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

excellent news!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 5 June 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Jurassique Parc!

the pinefox, Thursday, 5 June 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

yay the belgians!!

Jeff W (zebedee), Thursday, 5 June 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

So, did anyone actually see this titantic struggle? I managed to catch the last point on C4 news (where the newsreader managed to imply - no, directly stated - that this was the first match OF ANY KIND Serena had lost since 2001) but I'm desperate for a tape of this.

What happened when Williams served at 4-2 30-love in the 3rd that so upset her ("Justine lied and fabricated," says teletext, sensational[istical]ly)? What was JHH's topspin lob like in the final game? Were the crowd really so rotten to SW?

In my mind, this is the greatest tennis match ever played, so perhaps I shouldn't spoilt it by exposure to footage of Rena shanking groundies long and nervous flub-volleys by SuprimeJustine.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 June 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

frenchopen.org seems to be dead at the mo', but the Beeb reckon that Captain Verkerk is two sets up on Coria. I presume he's attacking relentlessly behind that giant serve, so a nice contrast of styles in the final if he keeps this up.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 June 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone hear the lack of perspective from sobbing Serena on the radio this morning. Fantastic stuff.

Lying and fabrication in full;:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/french_open_2003/2967190.stm

Pete (Pete), Friday, 6 June 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I read abt the sobbing in the papers. poor girl, such a raw deal! what a tough life! oh well...

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 June 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Bloedige hel! Verkerk boldly goes where no Dutchman has gone before (er, except possibly Tom Okker, I'm not sure): 7-6 6-4 7-6 over Coria.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I am so furious at the phrase "lack of perspective from sobbing Serena" that I can't even see straight.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

The phrase "Lack of perspective from sobbing Serena" was devised in a London laboratory as the one which would most rile a Mr Dan Perry. It closely beat out the phrase "The tuneless Meatloaf".

Pete (Pete), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

The first two bands I will sign to my label will be the Cunting Buntons and the Sobbing Serenas.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but now you need a label name.

The tuneless Meatloaf

That's an Edward Gorey title if ever I saw one.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the idea of Cunting Bunton

Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i missed the "turning moment" of the match but i saw the last two games of the match and Serena was not playing well at all, making very basic mistakes (ones that I can recognize having not played any tennis since last millenium), and I am guessing that she had probably given up.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I misread that as the 'Turing moment', where you actually discover that Serena is not a machine after all. I don't think she gave up, but she did seem (from all reports) to get very stiff-armed and shaky in the face of a barrage of Wallonian partisanry. She did have a point for 6-5 after breaking back and dinked a sitter of a volley over instead of smacking it away, allowing PristineJustine to race it down. The whole 'I'm not ready - oh, you faulted, yes I was' debacle is a bit unpleasant.

Meanwhile, Ferrero is two sets up vs Costa. "So what?" thinks Costa.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I have him thinks Costa. (I hope he does well at WImbledon so the Sun can do a Costa Del Sol gag).

Pete (Pete), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

well there were a lot of little things in those last games... for instance, who hits a volley cross court and then doesnt shift position to cover the possibility of the down-the-line pass? i mean, she really did not move at all, and that is just one example... also, i was watching at a bar and there was no sound on tv so i didnt hear booing and therefore cannot report on it.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I presume Serena's brain was just scrambled by 5-5.

Ferrero has a break point at 3-3 in the third... there have been TWELVE deuces in this game. And Ferrero breaks... (Costa: "This time I shall allow my opponent more than a sniff of victory, but the full intoxicating bouquet. Juan Carlos will have a match point, perhaps two, but then... [demonic laughter]).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Kinda cross now that Guillermo Coria'd off the rails so badly vs F W VerKerk; Agassi copes better with big servers than anyone else and the battle between him the Nederland Express would've been a treat. Ferrero now 5-3 up. So tragic... how cruel...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 June 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And now Albert Costa will attempt to come from THREE sets down...

Ah.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 June 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The women's final was a bit of a Clijtastrophe, Kim completely unable to kill a point for the first half-hour, H-H playing well enough to coast through. Second set more of a contest, Justine raising her game just when Casey threatened, backhand fizzing like sodium in an ice bucket. Winner count something like 27-9 to Gold Standard Liege.

TV coverage not bad, David Mercer providing running translation on the post-match speeches, now having perfected his schtick of growling at his co-commentators... "So much grrrvarrriettrryyy in her shots, Virgrrrinia." John Inverdale his usual boorish self, pulling away from Kim's presentation speech, bravely conducted in non-native tongue, with an offhand, "Yes, well, we've already heard her talk - in English."

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the match. happy that henin won but a pity that it wasn't much of a contest.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

*sigh*, another one-sided final. Verkerk hit his stride just once, going a break up early in the 2nd set (kinda similar to Nalbandian's all-too-brief purple patch in last year's Wimbledon final), but then played a criminal service game and threw it all away. His forecourt excursions were rather more arm-chancing affairs than any kind of careful strategy and that booming serve seemed to pitch an inch long more often than not.

Let's hope we see Ferrero at Wimbledon - losing in the quarters to Federer who then edges Agassi in the semi and Henman in the final. There, All-England predictions out of the way now so I look less of a fool when I start the proper SW19 thread.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 8 June 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll revive this thread when yr predictions go wrong.

but yes, terribly boring this afternoon.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 June 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)


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