The theory of the Matrix (only spoilers if you know nothing about the first film, and if that's true you SUXOR)

When he was eating that wonderful looking steak and drinking that red wine, I was thinking, you know - I might do the same thing!!

Well, except for the whole betraying your friends thing.

That was the whole point of all the warnings that Morpheus gives to Keanu about eating the pill, right? Like, he gives Keanu the chance to not achieve knowledge of the way the world truly worked, and to continue to live life in the Matrix. That's the problem, once you know, you become one of the small community of people who do know, so you can't really go back without betraying your friends.

1. Agents are going to hunt me down and kill me anyway, since I've awakened

2. Living a normal life while having concrete proof that it's all fake = total dud and probably impossible.

Given the option I think most folks would opt for more knowledge. I mean you aren't approached unless you already have suspicions anyway. Personally, I've noticed that birds and insects seem to have a rather insufficient framerate, and deja vu is rampant. Where's my red pill?

(plus the social implications of Zion being largely populated with minorities - most of the folks who choose the red pill are probably not really happy with their matrix lives anyway (yes this is a gross generalization, but I'm not the first to make it))

People are very good at denial. Most people live with incredibly complex systems that allow them to deny really, really obvious problems in their lives. The world outside the Matrix would be a much easier reality to block out given that the simulation you're living in is essentially flawless.

meh

-- chaki (chak...), May 31st, 2003.

Yeah, but that battle of the bands is crap, chaki.

-- Ally (mlescau...), June 1st, 2003.

god gave rok and roll to you

man this movie is lame

(having just seen it for the first time, on TV no less)

HA

altho I did lol at the Baudrillard quote

man do not let the first one get you down, you really need to run out and rent the two sequels, they are so amazing. : )

animatrix - the two part "what happened to cause the robots to get all pissed off (rape, dude)" was pretty good if i remember correctly.

'Beyond' and 'Matriculated' are WELL GOOD

you really need to run out and rent the two sequels, they are so amazing

roflz

I refused to watch this for so long on the grounds that a) everything else the Wachowskis have made is awful, both formally and textually and b) I hate Keanu Reeves and will only watch him if I absolutely have to (ie, A Scanner Darkly, which btw shits all over the Matrix from a great height)

keanu reeves is a national treasure.

I wonder whether all that robot technology to extract a small wattage of power from each human being is worth the effort. I am troubled by the economy of the matrix idea. Surely windpower would be more efficient? The barren wastelands look pretty windy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0e4S4lM4v58

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You did an exelent job with the timing and the scenes with the tone of the music. that should get more then 5 stars.

I couldn't get past how Morpheus and crew were still using computers and tech-gear in "the real world" - like lolz didn't you learn the fucking lesson the first time, technology is your enemy and can't be trusted, why are you bothering with all this programming crap

I wonder whether all that robot technology to extract a small wattage of power from each human being is worth the effort

also ^^^ this. if computers are so smart why are they fucking around with such an inefficient energy source when they could all just be nuclear-powered or whatever

i think you can find the answers to these questions on numerous message board archives circa 1999

lol

believe me if I could go back in time and tell everyone not to give the Wachowskis money I would

everything else the Wachowskis have made is awful

that's like one whole film!

i never thought the matrix was partic good, but for a summer event movie, it's better than most.

first matrix was sweet and maybe keanu haters have never seen a little movie called POINT BREAK????????

Point Break is awesome!

I still havent seen Scanner Darkly, I really should.

matrix is terrible. point break is top 10 best movie ever but it has the swayze. if matrix had the swayzer it would be better.

Swayze was good in Donnie Darko but only cos he played a sleazy asshole who got pwned.

Actually that sounds harsh, he's a dude.

swayze is good in everything.

in fact im willing to argue that he's the ONLY good thing about donnie darko.

Shakey Mo must not have seen Bound.

god i love shakey mo

2 Better endings to the Matrix:

1. Keanu stumbles upon a terminal in the robot city which shows a view of the REAL earth, which is a desert. He pans the camera around/watches a history lesson and realizes that all that is left is a big computer, in which everything - The Matrix, Zion, and all that crap, exists. Ends with Keanu screaming "We did this to ourselves!"

2. Keanu blows up Zion, and kills all the baddies. All of a sudden, his vision blue-screens, and all that is left for him to see is a text message:

"Level three not implemented."

Or some combination of those two.

3. Keanu wakes up. He's in a teenager's bedroom.

Keanu: WOW! That dream was RAD, dude!

(Ted enters room with Cheetah)

Ted: Bill, if we don't study really hard we're going to flunk the test!

Keanu: Ted, Dude, look!

(Cheetah does a backflip. They both laugh. Fade)

oh indeed I have seen Bound

V for Vendetta too

I also saw Point Break in the theater on its original release

matrix 1 was GOOD. but it then went BAD. It went BAD because of NERDS.
matrix 1 and 2 thus were both SHIT

funniest thing about it is that the much-vaunted fx -- the omg they pause in mid-air as the camera turns round -- are kind of wack.

yeah, effects that were dazzlingly innovative at the time then become ubiquitous do date

still like Reloaded - great fun for the most part

yep, that's where i'm coming from.
My suspicions were first 'arroused' on the release of the game Max Payne when the only selling point that my nerd friends seem to give me was that OMG YOU CAN DO SLOW MOTION BULLET DODGE LIKE IN DEM MATRIX OMG

there was an advert on tv not too long ago, which used the stop-camera-spin-around fx. But they fucked it up, massively. I think it was a splash of milk. I loved the advert because they still released it and they must of known the effect looked ultra poo.

god I STILL haven't seen the first (or any subsequent) matrix. out of the loop!

watch the first one, it holds an interesting premise. the sequels are only there to rock the nerds worlds.

Revolutions is just an abortion of a film

http://www.geekroar.com/film/archives/matrix_rev_club_hel.jpg

"O RLY"

the first was great, because it came out of nowhere (i hadn't heard anything about it, just seen one trailer the week before) and the effects were new and cool.

acting/dialogue/pretentiousness of story always sucked. the sequels have moments of coolness but can't rise above the mediocrity of the wachowskis as nerdy philosophy 101 leather fetishists.

man this movie is lame

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:35 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

(having just seen it for the first time, on TV no less)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:35 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man do not let the first one get you down, you really need to run out and rent the two sequels, they are so amazing. : )

― omar little, Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:40 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I wonder if Shakey has experienced the awesomeness of the sequels yet?

Best scene:

i read... somewhere... that in the earlier drafts of this script, the robots were not using human bodies as an energy source, but using each brain as part of the huge distributed computer network that ran the simulation itself, and i guess the robots too. execs thought it was too wonky and made the W bros change it.

that's the story anyway. marginally better than what we got.

or is this explained in the last one, that i never saw

That's a slightly neater idea if the implication is that we collectively constitute the AI which in turn is enslaving us. It doesn't explain why exactly there needed to be a simulated world, but the power source idea doesn't explain that either.

the power source idea makes zero sense

god I hate these movies

It's just an adventure series with an uncommonly pretentious façade. Anyone looking at them for profundity soon finds that all you can extract from them is confusion. But the first one was entertaining, if you just suspended disbelief and went with it.

yeah, didn't happen for me. all the window-dressing was too irritating in its sloppy glibness

If the idea of Keanu Reeves as a combination of Clark Kent, Superman, and the Messiah doesn't entertain you, then you are one tough audience.

Funny, he didn't look Jewish...

leaving aside the second and third films, the matrix is pretty great because it introduced lots of people to basic philosophical conundrums without them even realizing it. not every blockbuster action movie can claim a real connection to descartes and baudrillard and plato, and that's pretty cool.

matrix 4 green-lit; co-written by aleksander hemon and david mitchell

(!)

wait are you sure on that

MATRIX 4 announced

Keanu Reeves, Carrie-Anne Moss return as Neo and Trinity

Directed and written by Lana Wachowski

Production begins 2020https://t.co/HLMHz7ixNB pic.twitter.com/24hFeorLCH

— Nibel (@Nibellion) August 20, 2019

The screenplay is by Wachowski, Aleksandar Hemon, and David Mitchell.

according to entertainment weekly

https://ew.com/movies/2019/08/20/keanu-reeves-new-the-matrix/

nm, actually clicked. hope to see Larry F return as Dr Morbius

Plot details are currently unknown, as is how the role of Morbius will be handled, originally played by Laurence Fishburne. Some sources say the role may be recast for a younger take.

That link also mentions Mitchell. Whoa.

xp

david mitchell has gone to chelsea

what’s up with lilly w not being involved?