― anthony, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I'm still going to talk about the news, because I'd imagine most of my thoughts will still be taken up by the news, though. But here's an idea - a personal punditry chatter charity box. Every time you feel the need to make a post about the situation, put 10p into a jar or something, so your shooting your mouth off does some actual good too.
― Tom, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Trevor, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― rezna, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Does this make me a lesser human being or just a more honest one?
I can emphasise, of course I can. Of course I rang/e-mailed everyone I could think of over there who could have been affected/involved on Tuesday/Wednesday. The woman quoted in the Guardian yesterday about the guy to whom she'd just got engaged: "I spent my whole life trying to find him . . . now he's gone, how am I supposed to carry on?"
Families destroyed. Loves destroyed. With some foreknowledge (however brief).
But my heart cannot find space for these poor people. I know full well that there is nothing I could say which would make any difference to them or would create a bridge across which we could identify.
This is because I cannot communicate. Not properly. It's really kicking in now - three weeks after the event. The first week I was on autopilot. The second week I could see a little bit of a way forward, starting to feel optimistic. But now - delayed reaction, the full horror of the fact that my other half isn't here anymore, and the fact that I really don't know how I can carry on. I can't see beyond the next five minutes.
I went to see "Moulin Rouge" last week to cheer myself up and maybe work up a thread for here. But, as anyone who's seen the film and knows how it ends - well, not exactly what I needed, was it?
Read the Billy MacKenzie biog this week as well - he really did feel so guilty about not having grieved properly for his mother, about having to keep up bloody appearances.
I know there are a few people on these boards who have been bereaved - I wonder, how have you coped? Did you get the same initial "oh-I'll- carry-on" feeling, and then weeks later "oh-shit-it's-not-a-dream- fucking-hell"? Is this delayed reaction normal?
Please just tell me that I'm not going mad - because I think I'm losing the plot.
― Marcello Carlin, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I have little experience, but I do know that these things don't follow rules. The closest I can share is, when my grandfather died a few years ago, I just felt numb for a long time, like it just wasn't real. It wasn't until nearly a *month* later, and I can't remember what reminded me of him, and it hit me that it was true, he was gone, but I just dissolved in tears and was inconsolable.
That's nothing compared to what a scale of what you're probably going through, but... what I did to get through it was to remind myself of the things that he had loved, and to celebrate the things that he loved, and though it sounds pompous and silly, I kept my memory of him alive by remembering what he loved.
I really hope I haven't made things worse by spouting stupid crap when you're hurting. I just don't want you to feel like you're crazy cause you're not grieving to someone else's expectations, or feel that you're alone. OK?
― kate, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Don't begin to beat yourself up over not proportioning grief to tragedies that may be abstract to your own, immediate life. Bereavement can be all consuming in the weeks and months following a loss, I know it all to well. It's discombobulating, it's bewidering, it's painfull. Ah, the pain. It would be quicker to list the few remaining family members I have left then those that I have lost. When my father died I felt nothing, or rather I chose, unconciously, to block out the grief. It must have been months before it hit, and boy oh girl did it hit. But anyway, immediately after his death I wandered around as if I was looking for him, as if I just couldn't find him. I passed his empty chair, where is he? How can he not be here? It doesn't make SENSE that he isn't here. Strange and... annoying, I actually got annoyed and frustrated about the fact he wasn't around anymore. It wasn't fair. That was when I was 14 and turbulant times lay ahead. But life drags you along in it's wake and I'm still here. I just wish I had embraced my grief at the time. Cried, sobbed, wailed, screamed, hit the walls, broke things... ANYTHING other than the contained, internalised, dazed nothingness which exploded much later on. Not that I don't still feel the pain, it's still there but I'm used to it now, I've made peace with it, it's part of who I am and it's okay. Cos I still think of him, still miss him, all the time. Every week. It makes me sad that he's not here to just share experiences and things with me, but it hasn't stopped me from being happy. And my memories of him are happy ones, and they'll always be with me. And I'm glad.
― DavidM, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― jess, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)