TS: Butter vs. Margarine

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I say butter all the way.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

First person to mention Last Tango in Paris loses.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

damn!

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

For the record I've never seen that movie and thought I came up with that trick on my own.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

butter, surely. far better to cook with than marg and unmatched in its flavour.

Chris Radford (Chris Radford), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Butter tastes better and is better for you too.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Butter! Marg is just lard with yellow food colouring, blergh.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I really liked the butter they gave us for our bread at the hostel where I stayed in Paris.

At least you don't have to add your own coloring to margarine anymore.

rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.fabioifc.com/fabio/FABGIFS/fabad21adtrk2.gif

JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

butter, of course.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I must be the only person in the world who can't stand butter.

I wasn't raised with butter. All my parents would use for spreading over toast, topping potatoes, sauteeing green beans, baking cookies, etc., was margarine when I was growing up. I didn't even taste butter until a couple of Christmases ago when Mom was showing me how to make this sugar cookie/shortbread hybrid that also included some candied fruit. It tasted, uh, interesting.

I'm used to margarine. When I say I'm going to "butter" my bagel (I *big heart* toasted bagels with "butter" and jam) or when I say I love eating pancakes that have been "buttered" liberally but don't have any syrup on top, I'm talking about using margarine. Especially the Country Crock brand.

Like you guys didn't know already how weird I am. Huh.

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

butter butter butter.

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Fun fact: margarine in Quebec is white, due to a ridiculous and protracted controversy that would fatigue me to describe.

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Parkay!

hstencil, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Do they call it oleomargarine?

rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Fun fact: margarine in Quebec is white, due to a ridiculous and protracted controversy that would fatigue me to describe.

The US also went through this sixty years ago, BTW. (In short: When margarine first became popular, the butter people were worried that people would mistake margarine for butter if margarine was allowed to be dyed butter yellow. So, for a while margarine was sold undyed, and a small piece of coloring was included along with each package, to be mixed in before use.)

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

That's it exactly--farmers claimed that people would somehow confuse the two. The battle raged for years (and is still raging, for all I know).

My favourite margarine is that Olivina or whatever, the kind made with un-hydrogenated olive oil.

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

(Thing is, I actually prefer margarine when it's white.)

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm told that sixty years ago people were actually much, much less likely to mix up butter and margarine for the simple reason that margarine tasted much worse then than it does now.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Ew, white margarine.

rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)

no it's good!

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Ew, white people. Er, wait.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Margarine is people!

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I grew up with margarine too, but as an adult I've gone over to the butter side. Although I probably use only about one or two sticks a year at home. I use olive oil when I make garlic bread, and generally eat bread plain (or sandwiches) at home.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 06:13 (twenty-two years ago)

you know I just discovered what the different between unsalted and regular butter is (unsalted doesn't spread and is for cooking). why can't they just put that on the carton to begin with? I had to learn it from the Today show. I am sad.

We usually use margarine because someone (not me) is on a diet and we aren't allowed anything fun in the refrigerator.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 06:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I am amazed by this "dont dye the marg because if you do people will confuse it with butter" story. Its great! The thought of white margarine (that would thus look something akin to copha or lard I'm imagining) turns my stomach. Funny how appearance of food can trick the eye. I mean, no one would eat green margarine but it'd taste the same. If it was dyed green that is, not if it was a six month old fridge disaster.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Butter...

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Butter!

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 06:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I think margarine. i was brought up on butter but then when i switched to being a veggie i also switched to marg. been using it ever since...man!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 07:35 (twenty-two years ago)

RENER TO THREAD!

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 08:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't feel like reading this thread right now, but most margarine is crap. Anything with hydrogenated oils: stay away. Even if its not hydrogentated, it may contain oils that don't hold up well under the type of cooking it will be used in. Butter is actually a pretty good source of, what, Vitamin A or something like that. Can't remember at the moment. If it comes from freely feeding cows, it will also have a valuable antioxidant in it, but of course, most of it doesn't come from grass-grazed cows, unfortunately.

For a contrarian account of butter, see Mary G. Enig's Know Your Fats.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)

According to the science food programme at the end of Saturday kitchen (which is my fave thing to watch at 11:30 on Saturdays) margarine is better for baking cakes than butter due to some science reason which I wasn't paying attention to but possibly something to do with size of air bubbles & crystals or what have you. Anyway scientifically it is better. The rockist cook bloke insisted on using butter though. The programme also explained how some French bloke invented marge to give Napoleon's troops a cheap fat source. So blame the French.

Butter would be even better if it spread straight from the fridge.

Emma, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

anthony, that is crazy talk, Italians use almost exclusively unsalted butter for spreading and cooking, (due to a fit of bloody mindedness in the face of a pope who wanted to tax salt (there are buts of italy where the bread is unsalted and it makes really bad butttered toast), all butter spreads well if you don't keep it in the fridge like a crazy person.

emma, the science IIRC corectly is that the fat crystals in margerine are smaller so make more smaller air pockets which makes for a lighter fluffier cake (if you like that sort of thing)

Another interesting fact is that butter contains a lot of the same fats as olive oil, which are quite good for you and polyunsaturated fats, as found in marge, break down in hot frying to form carcinogenic compounds. The whole marge is better for you is a myth. At a science of food lecture once, I saw tim Hunkin make margerine from dirty engine oil. I submit it to you that marge is evil as proven by science and that butter is far superior in every way.

There are two key kinds of butter; sweetcream and lactic. Sweetcream butters are made from cream only a couple of days out of the cow, most UK butters are sweet cream. Lactic butter is made from cream that has been allowed to sour a little, to a creme fraiche, sour cream type state before churning. Lurpac is the main lactic butter in the UK.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)

ghee uber alles

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

its not so good on toast

I'm currently rocking sainsbury's salted beurre d'isigny, which has been on special offer recently. Tesco's cornish and brittany are good too.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Butter by a very long way. I put lots on my toast or bread because it tastes good, but when I can only have margarine I only put enough on to negate the dryness.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Baking with margarine is against all laws & codes of human decency. ESPECIALLY PASTRY.

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The correct answer is "ghee," thanks for playing everybody

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

that calcified butter is dangerous stuff. beloved by chefs.

Chris Radford (Chris Radford), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drc900/c955/c95589um5ni.jpg

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

08

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

i vote butter sirs!

jhøshea, Monday, 15 October 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

Today is national butter day (USA only).

libcrypt, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I love butter.

ian, Monday, 22 June 2009 03:22 (sixteen years ago)

I don't understand how this is even a question.

blow it out your hairdo (Jenny), Monday, 22 June 2009 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

i've been using earth balance, which is a vegan "buttery spread" that has no trans fat. the website says it's specifically not "margarine." obv i prefer real butter, but this stuff is surprisingly butter-like.

Garbanzo (get bent), Monday, 22 June 2009 03:48 (sixteen years ago)

this thread really should have been "defend the indefensible: margarine"

It's set in "Kazakhstan" not Kazakhstan. (I DIED), Monday, 22 June 2009 03:51 (sixteen years ago)

margarine is gross but earth balance is really good

mark cl, Monday, 22 June 2009 12:59 (sixteen years ago)

earth balance rules.

next stop: NOWHERE, i wanna get off (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 22 June 2009 13:10 (sixteen years ago)

Who eats margarine any more these days anyway? It's not the War or anything...

Or are people getting mixed up between oil spreads and margarine? - One is a substance made from natural oils and generally a healthy replacement for butter when used as spread, but not necessarily in cooking. The other is a yellow-dyed goo that they scrape off the bottom of ships and gives you rickets.

dog latin, Monday, 22 June 2009 13:25 (sixteen years ago)

i thought stuff like earth balance is a type of margarine

harbl, Monday, 22 June 2009 14:44 (sixteen years ago)

I like Earth Balance as well, and given my lactose problem I'd rather avoid nearly all dairy as I can to be on the safe side. (Exception being cheese, of course. I'm not crazy.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 June 2009 14:47 (sixteen years ago)

We use olive spread. Grew up on butter though. Still use butter occasionally for cooking. Margarine is gross.

ears are wounds, Monday, 22 June 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

margarine is garbage, eat some real food

velko, Monday, 22 June 2009 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

Got a half pound of goat-milk butter recently -- it didn't have any of that goaty tartness when I first unwrapped it, but since letting it come up to room temp and then rechilling it a few times, it's gotten more and more tangy. It won't replace cow's milk butter for me, but it was interesting to try.

My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Sunday, 22 August 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

I vote butter any day. I do have a nostalgic soft spot in my heart for Blue Bonnet margarine, though, because when I was very little I thought the woman in the logo was a picture of my mom.

http://files.myopera.com/edwardpiercy/blog/Blue-Bonnet-1.jpg

full of country goodness and green pea-ness (Abbbottt), Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

I even had a doll of it that I pretended was my mom when she was at work.

full of country goodness and green pea-ness (Abbbottt), Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

In Britain we can buy butter advertised by Johnny Rotten...
http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/john-lydon-butter-ad-20081001-154850.jpg

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

xp: Abbott, that's so adorable I could cry.

I am some kinda heathen and go for this shit:

http://www.new-nutrition.com/newspage/NewsPage%20GFX/SmartBalance.gif

meat by mistake (kkvgz), Monday, 23 August 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

invariably need butter to cook with so no point getting other stuff

r|t|c, Monday, 23 August 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)

xp the packaging on that makes it look like something you'd use to grease the axles of a car...

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 23 August 2010 09:05 (fifteen years ago)

TS: Butter vs. Margarine

Both of these things are revolting imo.

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Monday, 23 August 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)


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