Ned 'hurtful and disrespectful to young people'

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This is clearly a top news story in Scotland at the moment.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought it stood for Nerds Eating Dinner

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

In 2001 the word ned entered the Concise Oxford Dictionary, defined as a hooligan or petty criminal, a stupid or loutish boy or man.

This seems fair.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

DARLING, "pretty criminal" is more like it. ;-)

― doned bizatch (donut), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Rosie Kane. I think she's kind of right about 'ned' too. I got really confused when I moved to Scotland and found newspaper headline writers and politicians using the word. I had previously understood it to be a rather snobby term for kids from a certain background, shell-suited, bad skin etc. Like 'townie' elsewhere. That's the way people use it. Then this anti-ned crusade started and I realised that in fact the word did used to be restricted to young kids displaying anti-social behaviour - louts, petty criminals or whatever. But scope creep seems to have muddied the waters to such an extent that use of the word by those in a position of authority just has nasty 'council estate kids are to blame for everything' overtones.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Raggett has a lawsuit here.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

bah - crosspost. Dastoor, you are a fool. And Amateurist - you are not.

Ha - once again it is political correctness gone mad. No-one refers to all young people as neds, do they? Rosie Kane is a mentalist.

btw did anyone think this thread was about Mr Raggett?

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

N. - I don't really think you're a fool. But I do think Rosie Kane is a mentalist

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

No, she's wrong to say all young people. Just all young people in shell suits or football shirts with bad diets.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I have complained about this horrid association for years but NOOOOO, Nicole STILL has to make fun. *slumps in corner, cries*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Today I hate everyone, so you must suffer. Sorry, Toots.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

From henceforth Ned shall be known as "Tootie".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

That reminded my of my favourite book from when I was a kid...
http://www.12testing.net/peas/ladybird/40s/413/tootles.jpg

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

From henceforth Ned shall be known as "Tootie".

Sure thing, Hootie. We've got the killer duo name now.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

That comment has redeemed my day.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 5 June 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"Tootie & Hootie": The new action/comdey on FOX!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely it would be on UPN???

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 5 June 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Haven't you seen the ads for "Keen Eddie"?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(Argh this thread is screaming for the Neddlehof/Danman picture but I can't find it.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I recently digested a caktus?

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Thursday, 5 June 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/folcast33-1.jpg

High school-era Ned (far left) with his best school friends?

You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life, the facts of life....

― Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 5 June 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

But hey, I loved "The Facts of Life". When I was six.

Hmmmm. Maybe you should switch over to your middle name, oh dear Sir Raggett. Which would be... ?

― Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 5 June 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a pretty close match!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmmm. Maybe you should switch over to your middle name, oh dear Sir Raggett. Which would be... ?

Blair.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

*beats Hootie to a pulp*

Andrew.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

*rises from ground* Hold my hand, Tootie!

― Hootie (Dan Perry), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

That's not my hand you're grabbing.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I am a young person in a football shirt (AS Roma) with a bad diet.

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned you perv!

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"Just because these young people don't have the vote and they live in some of the areas that you don't hear too much about or see too much about, it does not mean that they should not be protected in relation to language that is used against them."

these are perfect reasons.

if you stopped calling the neds 'neds' would the neds stop calling anyone and everyone 'ya fukkin kunt'? as if.

neds Vs. bams: FITE! 2 THE DETH! PLZ!

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Cozen, I have always imagined you in some kind of defiant Stuart Braithwaite-esque ned outfit.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I imagine him w/ a bowlcut.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, that too.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 5 June 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought he was meant to look like Rob Zombie, don't disillusion me.

― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 5 June 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

No, that's what Jarvis looks like.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 June 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Dan left himself fairly wide open there, didn't he?

Nope, I meant no double entendres there. Nope, none whatsoever.

Hootie, huh? Well, you can't be a sexist old codger from the world of golf that Tiger Woods, by his actions, managed to humiliate. So you must be the Guy Who's Popular With the Laydeez.

(Click on below to see image full-sized -- I'm not going to make the same mistake twice.)

http://www.parkerproductions.com/celebs/new/Hootie.jpg

Poor Ned. There's nothing wrong with your name, really. Even though some would have it associated with the immature boy arseholes of the world. *hmphs in the Concise Oxford Dictionary's general direction* I would rather have it associated with this:

http://www.nedtanner.com/images/strips/990409.gif

OH I KID. ;)

Hey, who else has this nifty little .gif waiting just for them to use in any manner they like?

http://www.ladyinterference.com/deanna/nedgif.gif

Yep. I made it. All by myself. But you can have it. Go ahead.

― Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 June 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

! Dee, you are most kind. :-) But now everyone else on the board will want one!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh dear. Must prepare self for coming onslaught.

*wraps hands in bandages*

*sleeps for a million years*

But you are definitely most welcome. You earned that the moment you warmly welcomed me into the fold. Thank YOU for THAT.

― Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 June 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Some 'ha ha ha aren't I so funny and clever with my no-nonsense PC bashing joke formula' Labour MSP has said "What are we supposed to call them, 'track suit amabassadors'?" which has made me doubly sure that Rosie Kane is right. Why does an MSP need to call 'them' anything, you twat?

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 6 June 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I obv. don't look like Braithwaite.

I don't have a bowlcut.

― Cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 June 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, right.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 7 June 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

But neds call themselves neds. They're proud of it. I watched a documentary one night about neds v goths, and the neds (admittedly only all the ones willing to be interviewed) were like "but, man, I love being a ned, by ra way, me and ma buckie and i just want tae stab aw they goth twats" etc etc. They seemed to revel in it.

They are the scourge of my street (we've had our windscreen broken twice, yesterday we caught a couple of boys running across our back garden and hurdling the fences over all our neighbours' gardens too, trampling our flowers etc), and they are a problem. Something needs to be done about them, and if the Scottish Executive wants to do something to stop vandalism, violence etc, then they have to be able to call them something to debate what's going to be done. And if they're quite happy to call themselves neds, then why can't anyone else?

Right, I'm off for a mug of Ovaltine and a read of the Daily Mail...

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 7 June 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

neds v goths

A civil war in my case!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 June 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...

We really need to get the 'Tootie and Hootie' TV show off the ground.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 December 2003 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

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