― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)
why am I not surprised?
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― JesseFox (JesseFox), Friday, 6 June 2003 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)
mesh hats are like 1993 i'm sorry if jackass made them popular again 4 years ago
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 6 June 2003 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 6 June 2003 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 6 June 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Here's what REALLY trucks me into a sheer irrational frenzy of loathing: guys who wear them off to the side. You, sir, are not a five-year-old street urchin, an extra in a Dead End Kids movie, or someone who takes the short bus. Have some diginity, please.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 6 June 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)
I always thought they were worn by punks, skaterboarders, hipsters etc. because a lot of guys really *had* to wear them at work. Or because they're really cheap and reasonably sturdy and that's all they could afford. But we can't say the same about Trucker's caps, right?
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 6 June 2003 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)
''I scanned the room and I could count 30 or 40 hipsters wearing trucker hats,'' Mr. Ellis said. ''You could have closed your eyes and thrown a stick and hit a dozen foam caps at any given point of the night.''
yeah, it wasn't flattering to the boys wearing hats. although i suppose that someone should tell the people in my hometown (small town michigan) that they're actually cool. or were cool. whatever.
― colette (a2lette), Friday, 6 June 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/13832/1/image.gif
rowr.
― That Girl (thatgirl), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)
also the dickies thing- they make nice looking basics, i mean the whoe tshirt jeans work shirt thing, and they rarely wear out-i have a few peices in my wardrobe.
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)
except its not quasi at all
calgon take me away
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)
i like these hats
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron A., Friday, 6 June 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)
How long does it take before they actually feel normal?
― Sean (Sean), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't know - it's not even about emulating anyone really - just that the dressed-down style of vinyl windbreaker, unfaded jeans or work-pants, plain t-shirt, nice clean stans etc always seemed like a sensible way to dress. almost like a school uniform, decision-free and unvain. it just seems funny to think that people say this is played out when it's whole strength before was under the radar unplayoutability. whatever.
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)
(now everyone has gotten in while I was typing this and made all my points but whatever, so what, I'm losing my edge)
Do people find any other elements of hipster style class-condescending because they come from thrift stores or were once worn by people performing manual labor? I think I'll write a handbook of class-appropriate attire.
Someone please explain the qualitative difference between the following:
--gas station jacket w/stripes on sleeve and/or front + oval name/brand patch
--nylon snap-front collarlesss cotton-lined/unlined windbreaker w/ school/business/fraternal organization design printed on back
--mesh-back trucker cap
--corduroy jeans
--flea market/thrift store novelty t-shirt
--Hipper-than-thou band t-shirt
--Converse sneakers
--foldover-flap messenger bag
--terry-cloth wristband
The trucker hats are one item on a spectrum of uniform but, like Lee Harvey Oswald, they do not act alone. I think the reason people are upset about the trucker hats is that they can SEE them, and not the other items. It is a relatively crude level of style discourse.
The most redeeming thing about the trucker hats is that they lend themselves to nice graffiti customization. There should be more safe spaces for people to write graffiti.
The two people I have actually seen wearing the graffito'd ones were:
1. A street person harassing me at an outside table on Gansevoort Street. We were the suckers drinking at a bar with a circumflex in its name but who's got the trucker hat? According to the popular sentiment, I think this guy was TOO poor to be wearing a trucker hat so he should have sold the hat instead of begging us for money.
2. A moron yelling gay-bashing epithets from the passenger window of a car near Union Square. This was not cool at all. It sounded the death knell for my brief lust for a trucker hat.
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)
converse were never the province of working class men...working class boys, maybe. ditto terry cloth wrist band, fold over flap messenger bag, cooler than thou band t-shirt.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― felicity (felicity), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)
*ducks*
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 23 June 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott seward, Monday, 23 June 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)
why are we even comparing the wearing of trucker hats w/blackface?
re: ppl who don't know why ppl don't get over wearing trucker hats when even *the new york times* says they're over: like imma read that the times says it's over so imma stop doing it? right. besides, if it's "over" then aren't i "cool" for doing my own thing? (this is too post-modern for words.)
ppl have pointed this out, but i need to reiterate that trucker hats are different from baseball hats. i don't care what you call them where yr from, if you don't differentiate, yr wrong. it is also ok to call trucker hats "mesh hats." you won't catch me in a baseball hat except maybe on a weekend morning trip to the drugstore in pajamas type thing.
i have a trucker hat. it says "pure detroit" on it, cos i like to rep where i'm from (i now live in chicago). i think i look sexy in it. btw, i'm a girl. femme, too.
if i lived in nyc i might feel differently about trucker caps. they seem more played there then here in chitown.
hearing about posh and becks wearing them as well as 1/2 the ppl at the freakin mtv beach house = me crying, but still gonna wear my hat cos i love it. :C
my $0.02. i usually just lurk.
― praying mantis (praying mantis), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)
No, seriously: they both came from small towns (Baudette, MN and Elmira NY) and went exceedingly urban to compensate. We're talking dressing for dinner, gloves and pearls, Dior, cashmere and camel hair, and fashion-buying trips where they'd camp out at the Gramercy Park hotel.
― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)
Because we think out of the box, buster! Because 'we were never being boring'! In fact, we even disdain being sane! Just think, any other board would have discussed trucker hats in the pedestrian manner of the New York Times. But we discussed them in the manner of Bill Hicks debating Italo Calvino. And you sat there at work and read all 900 posts! Of course you did! Then you lost your job and had to join the welfare line with a trucker hat pulled low over your eyes to stop people recognising you.
― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Actually my grandparents' high aestheticism, refined social circle and liberal political opinions combined with let-him-eat-with-the-nanny approach to child rearing probably resulted in their nevertheless spoilt brat of a son embracing Hank Williams, Jr, tractor pulls, feed caps, going 'on the road' to live on farms and look after horses, voting Shrub and generally apeing all good ole boy behaviour ever invented. He is also a charter member of the Fart Lighter's Club of America.
― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)
i also asked him about the two recent music exports from the area in the last few years had been the toast of NYC/williamsburg over the past 12 months and he just smiled and said "good for them!"
― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphics/features/0325/blur.jpg
BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!
(Alex's increasingly HSA-like beard is really starting to worry me.)
― kate (kate), Thursday, 10 July 2003 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 10 July 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Friday, 11 July 2003 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)
anyway thnx for listnin MWAH xx
― stepho, Monday, 12 April 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 April 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― |||| (amateurist), Monday, 9 August 2004 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20215562,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
apparently justin timberlake wore them first!
― jaxon, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)
Two dumb men fighting over a hat
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)
good thread
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:40 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.engrish.com//wp-content/uploads/2011/04/i-am-truck-cap.jpg
― that's not kewell (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 June 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)
SexyDiamond
― promethethem (latebloomer), Friday, 1 June 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
This thread is funny, I wear caps at work when I'm not wearing a hardhat. But think only indie guys call them trucker hats.
― JacobSanders, Saturday, 2 June 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)
god, remember indie?
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)
This thread is nearly twelve years old! What are the "trashy" / slumming it fashions of today - "indie" or otherwise?
― NO CLOO (I M Losted), Friday, 20 February 2015 16:46 (ten years ago)
The current American "I look like I would know who Dinosaur Jr. are but in reality my favorite band is Imagine Dragons" trends include:-darted flannels-extremely clunky red wing boots-holes where gauges used to be-extremely tight denim jackets
Kings of Leon x Crypto-Crunkcore
― Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Friday, 20 February 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)
urban lumberjack is pretty big
― mh, Friday, 20 February 2015 16:58 (ten years ago)
ya, it's an awful time for those of us who actually always wore flannel/'lumberjack'-style clothes
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:09 (ten years ago)
Wait, am I cool now? Is this why Sierra Trading Post's prices have gone up?
― how's life, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:23 (ten years ago)
A few years back Pointer (coverall company in US, not UK sneaker company) had the most basic website I've ever seen, and all their clothing retailed for under 30 bucks. Now all their jackets are 200+ :(
― Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:33 (ten years ago)
I feel like what I call the "drycleaned outdoorsman" look has become so pervasive for so long that it's already left behind most of its traces of slumming it.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:33 (ten years ago)
So the obv question is: what working class goods which were formerly inflated in the trucker hat regnum are now back to being affordably priced bc they're so over?
― a date with density (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:37 (ten years ago)
you just need to know where to shop. buying the real deal workwear stuff has always been pretty affordable. carhartt and dickies wear are both pretty cheap. by contrast the specialty store's "our take on the classic heritage workshirt, updated for the modern age" will always cost you
― marcos, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:45 (ten years ago)
yeah, pair of basic dickies pants costs about $25
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:48 (ten years ago)
can't remember the name but there is also a whole other clothing company very similar to carhartt and dickes but sells even cheaper than they do
― marcos, Friday, 20 February 2015 18:51 (ten years ago)
red kap?
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:00 (ten years ago)
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7800000/Redcap-Faeiries-book-1978-magical-creatures-7829889-576-768.jpg
― a date with density (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 February 2015 19:06 (ten years ago)
today at the salvation army i offered a hipsterish young person the vintage pendleton field shirt that was too small for me and he didn't know what pendleton was. i didn't how to proceed from there because i had assumed he'd be primed for apeshit but it was a good and quality american garment of fine workmanship and i felt that there was an outside chance that it would find a way into his rotation because of intrinsic qualities and not hey look i'm in fleet foxes now.
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 21 February 2015 05:13 (ten years ago)
pendleton is what happens to your balls when u get old, right?
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 February 2015 06:41 (ten years ago)