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I've been asked to do "a reading" at a friend's wedding... like a poem or a couple of paragraphs from somthing... I can't find anything I like. I need something nice and happy and encouraging to the couple but I don't want anyhing too too chickensoup-ish.

Any ideas?

Please and thanks.
Your pal,
Fritz

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 8 June 2003 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"No matter where you go, there you are."

(More seriously, er...something from Donne, maybe?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 June 2003 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Donne is a good idea, Ned...

here's the only one I've kinda liked that I've found so far:

Man and woman are like the earth, that brings forth flowers
in summer, and love, but underneath is rock.
Older than flowers, older than ferns, older than foraminiferae,
older than plasm altogether is the soul underneath.
And when, throughout all the wild chaos of love
slowly a gem forms, in the ancient, once-more-molten rocks
of two human hearts, two ancient rocks,
a man's heart and a woman's,
that is the crystal of peace, the slow hard jewel of trust,
the sapphire of fidelity.
The gem of mutual peace emerging from the wild chaos of love.

- D.H. Lawrence

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 8 June 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(but I might just like the word "foraminiferae")

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 8 June 2003 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

When you get what you want in your struggle for self
And the world makes you king for a day.
Just go to the mirror and look at yourself
And see what that man has to say.
For it isn't your father or mother or wife
Whose judgment upon you must pass.
The fellow whose verdict counts most in your life
Is the one staring back from the glass.

You may be like Jack Horner and chisel a plum
And think you're a wonderful guy.
But the man in the glass says you're only a bum
If you can't look him straight in the eye.

He's the fellow to please - never mind all the rest,
For he's with you clear to the end.
And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test
If the man in the glass is your friend.

You may fool the whole world down the pathway of years
And get pats on the back as you pass.
But your final reward will be heartache and tears
If you've cheated the man in the glass.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 8 June 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

dude, it's a wedding not an intervention ;)

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 8 June 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Wendell Berry's "The Country of Marriage." It's long, but conveniently divided into sections. Section three is lovely. Here's the whole thing:

I.

I dream of you walking at night along the streams
of the country of my birth, warm blooms and the nightsongs
of birds opening around you as you walk.
You are holding in your body the dark seed of my sleep.

II.

This comes after silence. Was it something I said
that bound me to you, some mere promise
or, worse, the fear of loneliness and death?
A man lost in the woods in the dark, I stood
still and said nothing. And then there rose in me,
like the earth's empowering brew rising
in root and branch, the words of a dream of you
I did not know I had dreamed. I was a wanderer
who feels the solace of his native land
under his feet again and moving in his blood.
I went on, blind and faithful. Where I stepped
my track was there to steady me. It was no abyss
that lay before me, but only the level ground.

III.

Sometimes our life reminds me
of a forest in which there is a graceful clearing
and in that opening a house,
an orchard and garden,
comfortable shades, and flowers
red and yellow in the sun, a pattern
made in the light for the light to return to.
The forest is mostly dark, its ways
to be made anew day after day, the dark
richer than the light and more blessed,
provided we stay brave
enough to keep on going in.

IV.

How many times have I come to you out of my head
with joy, if ever a man was,
for to approach you I have given up the light
and all directions. I come to you
lost, wholly trusting as a man who goes
into the forest unarmed. It is as though I descend
slowly earthward out of the air. I rest in peace
in you, when I arrive at last.

V.

Our bond is no little economy based on the exchange
of my love and work for yours, so much for so much
of an expendable fund. We don't know what its limits are--
that puts us in the dark. We are more together
than we know, how else could we keep on discovering
we are more together than we thought?
You are the known way leading always to the unknown,
and you are the known place to which the unknown is always
leading me back. More blessed in you than I know,
I possess nothing worthy to give you, nothing
not belittled by my saying that I possess it.
Even an hour of love is a moral predicament, a blessing
a man may be hard up to be worthy of. He can only
accept it, as a plant accepts from all the bounty of the light
enough to live, and then accepts the dark,
passing unencumbered back to the earth, as I
have fallen tine and again from the great strength
of my desire, helpless, into your arms.

VI.

What I am learning to give you is my death
to set you free of me, and me from myself
into the dark and the new light. Like the water
of a deep stream, love is always too much. We
did not make it. Though we drink till we burst
we cannot have it all, or want it all.
In its abundance it survives our thirst.
In the evening we come down to the shore
to drink our fill, and sleep, while it
flows through the regions of the dark.
It does not hold us, except we keep returning
to its rich waters thirsty. We enter,
willing to die, into the commonwealth of its joy.

VII.

I give you what is unbounded, passing from dark to dark,
containing darkness: a night of rain, an early morning.
I give you the life I have let live for the love of you:
a clump of orange-blooming weeds beside the road,
the young orchard waiting in the snow, our own life
that we have planted in the ground, as I
have planted mine in you. I give you my love for all
beautiful and honest women that you gather to yourself
again and again, and satisfy--and this poem,
no more mine than any man's who has loved a woman.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 8 June 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 June 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

You should have offered to do the wedding photography instead. You don't have to say anything, and you can run around through the whole thing with the perfect excuse to escape chattery old aunts & anyone else annoying. ;-)

lyra (lyra), Sunday, 8 June 2003 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i didnt like the wendell berry.

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 8 June 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

it seems a bit retrospective

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 8 June 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I like it a lot myself but I'd feel like I was a bit of a dark cloud witht the "What I am learning to give you is my death/to set you free of me, and me from myself" stuff.

any other ideas? anthony?

anyone?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 8 June 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

and how are you all feeling about the dh lawrence? i'm warming to it

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 8 June 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

the Lawrence is pretty good, yeah; gabbneb's point is a good one (boo to anthony for not liking such a good-hearted poem though ;))

of course if you want to do something memorable, you could read Aleksander Wat's "And Even, Even If They Take Away the Stove: My Inexhaustible Ode to Joy":

I have a stove
similar to a triumphal arch!!!

They take away my stove
similar to a triumphal arch!!!!

Give me back my stove
similar to a triumphal arch!!!!!

They have taken away the stove.
All that is left
is a grey,
naked
hole.

And this is enough for me:
grey naked hole,
grey naked hole,
greynakedhole.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(typed in from memory, apologies to Wat & his translatoe if I left something out)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Two words: Iceberg Slim.

hstencil, Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

how about "Two bodies, male and female.
One much poke and one accept.
This is the way creatures multiply.
Just like frogs, our friends here will mate.
God BLess Sadam Hussein. Amen."

Mike Hanle y (mike), Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

These are two of my favorite poems for times of commitment celebrations.

Kahlil Gibran - "Wedding"

You were born together, and together you shall be forevermore.
You shall be together when the white wings of death scatter your days.
Ay, you shall be together even in the silent memory of God.
But let there be spaces in your togetherness,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.

Love one another, but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
Fill each other's cup, but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.

Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.
For only the hands of Life can contain your hearts.
And stand together, but not too near together:
For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.

Apache Blessing

?Now you will feel no rain, for each of you will be shelter for the other.
Now you will feel no cold, for each of you will be warmth to the other.
Now there will be no loneliness, for each of you will be companion to the other.
Now you are two persons, but there is only one life before you.
May beauty surround you both in the journey ahead and through all the years.
May happiness be your companion and your days together be good and long
upon the earth.?

?Treat yourselves and each other with respect, and remind yourselves
often of what brought you together. Give the highest priority to the tenderness,
gentleness and kindness that your connection deserves.
When frustration, difficulties and fear assail your relationship,
as they threaten all relationships at one time or another,
remember to focus on what is right
between you, not only the part which seems wrong.
In this way, you can ride out the storms
when clouds hide the face of the sun in your lives --
remembering that even if you lose sight
of it for a moment, the sun is still there.
And if each of you takes responsibility for the quality
of your life together, it will be marked by abundance and delight.?

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 8 June 2003 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

ok ee cummings i like my body when it is with your body is too hot
most of sharon olds poems are about divorice.
maybe larkins talking in bed, but then a bit specfic and a bit morose.

their is this by Bernice Zamora

WE come and we go
But within limits,
fixed by a law
Which is not ours,

We have in common
the experince of love

but its a bit opressive.

i would say one of milays sonnets but once again a bit slick and a bit about fucking.

maybe dickinsons wild nights
or allen ginsbergs song-http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/1642/song.html

one would think that shakespeares sonnets might work, but frankly they are rather moribund and depressing

i also like paul blackburns park poem, which i havent been able to track down on the net yet

their may also be a frank o hara, but he is a bit cultish, and may not fit into a wedding.

i dont know if that is helpful at all.

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 8 June 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

You know how they say that good art doesn't go with your furniture? Good poetry doesn't go with your wedding.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 8 June 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

read them the "how many bras do you have" thread

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 8 June 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

mark wins!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 June 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Hanle y ain't far behind him.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 June 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at a hippy wedding a couple years ago and the reading was from "Still Life With Woodpecker" by Tom Robbins.

Ha!

J (Jay), Sunday, 8 June 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at a wedding a few years ago and the reading was "Us Two" by AA Milne. Mind you, the bride also walked down the aisle to Felt and they signed the register to the Field Mice.

Uber-twee wedding frenzy...

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 8 June 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"To Speak of Woe That Is in Marriage"
by Robert Lowell

"It is the future generation that presses into being by means of these exuberant feelings and supersensible soap bubbles of ours." - Schopenhauer

"The hot night makes us keep our bedroom windows open.
Our magnolia blossoms. Life begins to happen.
My hopped up husband drops his home disputes,
and hits the streets to cruise for prostitutes,
free-lancing out along the razor's edge.
This screwball might kill his wife, then take the pledge.
Oh the monotonous meanness of his lust...
It's the injustice...he is so unjust -
Whiskey-blind, swaggering home at five.
My only thought is how to keep alive.
What makes him trick? Each night now I tie
ten dollars and his car key to my thigh...
Gored by the climacteric of his want,
he stalls above me like an elephant."

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 8 June 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks all! keep them coming if you're so inclined or it may end up being selected readings from the bra thread after all

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Sunday, 8 June 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

the bit from the Book Of Tobit they use at Catholic Weddings is TOTAL CLASSIC (it's all about a demon who fancies some woman and keeps devouring men who marry her on their wedding night).

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 8 June 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

how's this one?

I think awhile of Love, and while I think,
Love is to me a world,
Sole meat and sweetest drink,
And close connecting link
Tween heaven and earth.

I only know it is, not how or why,
My greatest happiness;
However hard I try,
Not if I were to die,
Can I explain.

I fain would ask my friend how it can be,
But when the time arrives,
Then Love is more lovely
Than anything to me,
And so I'm dumb.

For if the truth were known, Love cannot speak,
But only thinks and does;
Though surely out 'twill leak
Without the help of Greek,
Or any tongue.

A man may love the truth and practise it,
Beauty he may admire,
And goodness not omit,
As much as may befit
To reverence.

But only when these three together meet,
As they always incline,
And make one soul the seat,
And favorite retreat,
Of loveliness;

When under kindred shape, like loves and hates
And a kindred nature,
Proclaim us to be mates,
Exposed to equal fates
Eternally;

And each may other help, and service do,
Drawing Love's bands more tight,
Service he ne'er shall rue
While one and one make two,
And two are one;

In such case only doth man fully prove
Fully as man can do,
What power there is in Love
His inmost soul to move
Resistlessly.

______

Two sturdy oaks I mean, which side by side,
Withstand the winter's storm,
And spite of wind and tide,
Grow up the meadow's pride,
For both are strong

Above they barely touch, but undermined
Down to their deepest source,
Admiring you shall find
Their roots are intertwined
Insep'rably.


Henry David Thoreau

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 9 June 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

what about Emily Dickinson poem that begins "I have no other life but this/to lead it here...

isadora (isadora), Monday, 9 June 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Look to this day,
For it is life,
The very life of life.
In its brief course lie all the varieties
And realities of your existence;
The bliss of growths
The glory of action,
The splendor of beauty;
For yesterday is but a dream
And tomorrow is only a vision,
But today well lived makes
Every yesterday a dream of happiness
And every tomorrow a vision of hope.

Look well, therefore, to this day.
Such is the salvation of the dawn.

Untitled
By BhagaVad Gita

luna (luna.c), Monday, 9 June 2003 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I like some of these suggestions a lot (and may steal them!). Here's Shaky's contribution:

Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O, no! it is an ever-fixed mark,
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come;
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 9 June 2003 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I know I've told this story before, but I was at a wedding a while back in which one of my oldest friends (the groom) made another of my oldest friends (the best man) read the lyric to "Like Frankie Lymon" by the Weather Prophets as his reading.

Bless everyone involved. Apart from the Weather Prophets.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 9 June 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Levi Stubbs Tears is never appropriate for a wedding, which is why it should be read out at all weddings.

For poetry though you can't beat The Pointy Birds (and you will be ain a positionw here you could actually annoint the happy couple).

Alternatively singing "Its Your Wedding" to the tune of "Put Your Hands Up" by Reef will bring back happy memories of the mid nineties and TFI Friday.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 9 June 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"san dimas high school football rules!"

chris (chris), Monday, 9 June 2003 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)

if it's songwords then it has to be...

mark s (mark s), Monday, 9 June 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

ee cummings " I carry your heart", we had it read at our wedding.

i carry your heart with me (i carry it in
my heart) i am never without it (anywhere
i go you go, my dear; and whatever is done
by only me is your doing, my darling)
i fear
no fate (for you are my fate, my sweet) i want
no world (for beautiful you are my world, my true)
and it's you are whatever a moon has always meant
and whatever a sun will always sing is you

here is the deepest secret nobody knows
(here is the root of the root and the bud of the bud
and the sky of the sky of a tree called life; which grows
higher than soul can hope or mind can hide)
and this is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart

i carry your heart (i carry it in my heart)

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 9 June 2003 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

see i like a lot of these - like ee cummings and ahem hem da stooges - but the problem with those are that they're in the first person so it'll sound like I'm trying to put in a last-minute pitch to the bride if I read them at the wedding whereas something more general will work better for me, see?

anyway... again many thanks to you all...

which do you all prefer: thoreau or dh lawrence? dh is shorter so I'm liking that

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 9 June 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I always liked that episode of Talk Radio where Beth sang "White Wedding" at Lisa's ceremony.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 9 June 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Fritz, if it were me I would go with the DH.

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 9 June 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
revive. the d.h. lawrence went over well, & i've been asked to do this again!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, thans ned, it's kind of nice! but nervewracking too... any ideas anyone? this thread helped a lot last time.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

This had the tears flowing at a wedding I went to once:

"What is REAL?" asked the Rabbit one day, when they were lying side by side near the nursery fender, before Nana came to tidy the room. "Does it mean having things that buzz inside you and a stick-out handle?"

"Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real."

"Does it hurt?" asked the Rabbit.

"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."

"Does it happen all at once, like being wound up," he asked, "or bit by bit?"

"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in your joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks dave!

keep em coming

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

foraminiferae?

i mean... (maybe it's just me!)

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was asked to read this at a friends' wedding a couple of years ago. There were crying aunties and everything! It was very nervewracking though, I do agree.

My true Love hath my heart, and I have his,
By just exhange one for the other given:
I hold his dear, and mine he cannot miss;
There never was a better bargain driven.
His heart in me keeps me and him in one,
My heart in him his thoughts and senses guides:
He loves my heart, for once it was his own;
I cherish his because in me it bides.
His heart his wound received from my sight,
My heart was wounded with his wounded heart;
For as from me, on him his hurt did light,
So still methought in me his hurt did smart.
Both, equal hurt, in this change sought our bliss:
My true Love hath my heart, and I have his.

Sir Philip Sidney (1554-86)

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, sing them Makin' Whoopee. I'm planning on doing that at my mates wedding - they're gonna love me!

Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

gyax, go fuck yourself you creepy complaining jerk.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to a wedding once where a guy got up and played November Rain by Guns 'n' Roses on grand piano in the church.

Everyone looked at the floor willing it to end.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

fritz, creepy personal attacks aside, i was just thinking about the context of that word at wedding. have a nice day!

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

do that coleridge bit about the lesbian vampires.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, gygax. between that and the coachwhips cracks it seemed like you had a chip on your shoulder towards me for some reason. i guess i misunderstood.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to a wedding once where a guy got up and played November Rain by Guns 'n' Roses on grand piano in the church.
Everyone looked at the floor willing it to end.

I would have died laughing. Literally.

That would have been the best wedding ever.


El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

except for the literally dying part, I'd guess.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No, the dying would make it memorable for the other guests.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...
Both by Neruda:

Sonnet XLVI

Of all the stars I admired, drenched
in various rivers and mists,
I chose only the one I love.
Since then I sleep with the night.

Of all the waves, one wave and another wave,
green sea, green chill, branchings of green,
I chose only the one wave,
the indivisible wave of your body.

All the waterdrops, all the roots,
all the threads of light gathered to me here;
they came to me sooner or later.

I wanted your hair, all for myself.
From all the graces my homeland offered
I chose only your savage heart.

_____________________________________________________________

Sonnet XVII

I do not love you as if you were salt-rose, or topaz,
or the arrow of carnations the fire shoots off.
I love you as certain dark things are to be loved,
in secret, between the shadow and the soul.

I love you as the plant that never blooms
but carries in itself the light of hidden flowers;
thanks to your love a certain solid fragrance,
risen from the earth, lives darkly in my body.

I love you without knowing how, or when, or from where.
I love you straightforwardly, without complexities or pride;
so I love you because I know no other way

than this: where I does not exist, nor you,
so close that your hand on my chest is my hand,
so close that your eyes close as I fall asleep.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

:-)

How soon is the wedding you'll be attending, Luna? Any day now?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

May 21st, Ned.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

B-b-but November Rain!

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

May is not November.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't matter.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

In the video, Axl and Slash were the ones getting married.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
This had the tears flowing at a wedding I went to once:

"What is REAL?" asked the Rabbit one day, when they were lying side by side near the nursery fender, before Nana came to tidy the room. "Does it mean having things that buzz inside you and a stick-out handle?"

"Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real."

"Does it hurt?" asked the Rabbit.

"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."

"Does it happen all at once, like being wound up," he asked, "or bit by bit?"

"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in your joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."

I read this at my brother's wedding on Saturday. So many people came up to me afterwards and said "I was holding it together until your reading". SCORE!

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

is a skin horse a dick?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

booooooooo.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 20 April 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

and good going for anybody who is able to read that out loud @ a wedding without breaking up themselves

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 20 April 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Er, well, I wouldn't say I made it all the way through without breaking up, but I certainly did a lot better on the day than I did when practising. Hooray for a little pick-me-up before the service!

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 21 April 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept.

What's that mean? That if you're a puny weakling, you don't get to be real? toughen up! Or am I misinterpreting it?

lady, Friday, 21 April 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, having things inside you that buzz...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 21 April 2006 08:10 (nineteen years ago)

Is it the buzzing things that make your handle stick out?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 21 April 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

Topography, by Sharon Olds

After we flew across the country we
got in bed, laid our bodies
delicately together, like maps laid
face to face, East to West, my
San Francisco against your New York, your
Fire Island against my Sonoma, my
New Orleans deep in your Texas, your Idaho
bright on my Great Lakes, my Kansas
burning against your Kansas your Kansas
burning against my Kansas, your Eastern
Standard Time pressing into my
Pacific Time, my Mountain Time
beating against your Central Time, your
sun rising swiftly from the right my
sun rising swiftly from the left your
moon rising slowly form the left my
moon rising slowly form the right until
all four bodies of the sky
burn above us, sealing us together,
all our cities twin cities,
all our states united, one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

patita (patita), Friday, 21 April 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

These are two of my favorite poems for times of commitment celebrations.
Kahlil Gibran - "Wedding"

You were born together, and together you shall be forevermore.
You shall be together when the white wings of death scatter your days.
Ay, you shall be together even in the silent memory of God.
But let there be spaces in your togetherness,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.

Love one another, but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
Fill each other's cup, but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.

Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.
For only the hands of Life can contain your hearts.
And stand together, but not too near together:
For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.

Apache Blessing

?Now you will feel no rain, for each of you will be shelter for the other.
Now you will feel no cold, for each of you will be warmth to the other.
Now there will be no loneliness, for each of you will be companion to the other.
Now you are two persons, but there is only one life before you.
May beauty surround you both in the journey ahead and through all the years.
May happiness be your companion and your days together be good and long
upon the earth.?

?Treat yourselves and each other with respect, and remind yourselves
often of what brought you together. Give the highest priority to the tenderness,
gentleness and kindness that your connection deserves.
When frustration, difficulties and fear assail your relationship,
as they threaten all relationships at one time or another,
remember to focus on what is right
between you, not only the part which seems wrong.
In this way, you can ride out the storms
when clouds hide the face of the sun in your lives --
remembering that even if you lose sight
of it for a moment, the sun is still there.
And if each of you takes responsibility for the quality
of your life together, it will be marked by abundance and delight.?


-- I'm Passing Open Windows (mslaur...), June 8th, 2003.


Holy Shit! We had BOTH of these in our wedding ceremony. Two years AFTER laura posted them!

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 21 April 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

After we drove across the country we
got in bed, laid our bodies
delicately together, like maps laid
face to face, East to West, my
London against your Cardiff, your
Isle of Sheppey against my Anglesey, my
Cotswolds deep in your Stonehenge,
your Northampton bright on my English Riviera, my Midlands
burning against your Midlands, your Midlands
burning against my Midlands, your Greenwich Mean Time pressing into my... uh....
Greenwich Mean Time, my Greenwich Mean Time
beating against your Greenwich Mean Time, your
sun rising swiftly from the right my
sun rising swiftly from the left your
moon rising slowly form the left my
moon rising slowly form the right until
all four bodies of the sky
burn above us, sealing us together,
all our cities twin cities,
all our counties united, one
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

JTS (JTS), Friday, 21 April 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

first one in about 15 years tomorrow, here's to hilarity and incident (obv not involving groom or bride)

sorry for british (country matters), Friday, 24 April 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

three years pass...

So I've been asked to read at my friend's wedding in three weeks' time:

since feeling is first
by e.e. cummings

since feeling is first
who pays any attention
to the syntax of things
will never wholly kiss you;
wholly to be a fool
while Spring is in the world

my blood approves,
and kisses are a better fate
than wisdom
lady i swear by all flowers. Don't cry
—the best gesture of my brain is less than
your eyelids' flutter which says

we are for each other:then
laugh,leaning back in my arms
for life's not a paragraph

And death i think is no parenthesis

I'm really touched and humbled, but I'm also shitting it since I don't have a versey bone in my body. If the end of each line rhymes, I'm totally fine. But I never know when to pause with proper poems!

sktsh, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)

just read it like a big long sentence!

atari era stylings of (seandalai), Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks! I'll give it my best. Can't go wrong at a wedding, right?!

sktsh, Monday, 24 September 2012 10:18 (thirteen years ago)

No matter how well or badly ("badly") you read this poem
at the end of the day
they will still be married.

purveyor of generations (in orbit), Monday, 24 September 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)


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