DONT EVEN JOKE

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i berated natalie for threatening to destroy art
So what do you find so beyond the pale that you cannot joke about it ?

anthony, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People who can't tell a joke when it's slapped into their face. ;-) Oh and I hate it when people FORGET THE H in my name! H stands for ha-ha.

nathalie, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i don't know if i've found something yet so darkly undealable that humour, in some form, doesn't help to deal with its severity.

Geoff, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does that mean you woul;dn't feel offended by WTC Tragedy jokes?

I personally don't find anything unjokeable EXCEPT SUPERMAN JOKES. I love that man Christopher Reeves. I think he epitomises Superman - his strength, good will and humour in such an awful situation. I know I couldn't cope with something like that... He truly seems like a superman to me to cope with such a calamity without committing suicide.

Kodanshi, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

given time, i'm sure they'll emerge, and at that time, no, I probably own't be offended, but that doesn't mean other ppl won't be...remember the challenger jokes?

Geoff, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've heard one WTC joke so far, which I'm not sharing unless asked to.

DG, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

share it.

ethan, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd rather DG didn't, myself.

I think it's absolutely irredeemably fucking stupid to joke about people in rural areas being technologically backward, but things like that seem so unimportant after this week.

Robin Carmody, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

stupid question, but nathalie, do you pronounce the h in your name?

Maria, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One vote for, one vote against. I'm voting to not share it.

DG, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But isnt art destroyed all the time?

Pennysong Hanle y, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Heard several actually. Actually read'em in the newspaper. Another one was a spoof ad which a friend related to us.
"Why can't Americans play chess?"
Because they already lost two towers.
Yes, one pronounces the h in my name. You do it this way: Nat-HAHAHAHAHAH-alie. Mais non, il faut prononcer mon nom comme les Parisiens, avec flair. ;-)
Yes, HanLY that was my point. It is after all ONLY A PIECE OF CANVAS. Let us not talk art too seriously. fART.

nathalie, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

TAKIETAKIETAKIE take take take. Take it OR LEAVE IT.

nathalie, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Its more the one piece of canvas and by destroying it on purpose you destroy an idea. Its like burning books.

anthony, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

as a citizen of more or less middle america, i can say pretty definitively that the only thing you cannot joke about are mullets. if i hear ONE MORE MULLET joke, i swear i'm going to put down this box cutter and turn the plane RIGHT AROUND.

ian, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

excellent, this is exactly what i was hoping for. nofx punk kids rushing to spend $25 on novelty mullet joke t-shirts in what is essentially a mass mockery of 'out-of- style' rural culture and white poverty offends me far more than plane hijacking jokes.

ethan, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think burning books isn't inherently evil (bt if it's the last copy then it's not good...hm, I can't get my opinion straight, my anti- everything half getting run over by my BUT IT'S A BOOK half.)

Maria, Saturday, 15 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but i dont take the piss out of mullets for any of the reasons ethan mentioned above. i take the piss out of them because:

a) the word 'mullet' is hilarious b) garth brooks

maybe i'm a brit who just doensn't get it...

i can't stand jokes or making light of animal experimentation. and destroying art is a terrible, terrible thing. i'm reading a biography of Vanessa Bell at the mo and apparently some of her panels, painted for a church during WW2, were destroyed by vandals in 1962. WHY!?!?

katie, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Chris Waddle had the best mullet. When he cut it off, he lost all his power and missed a very important penalty. So mullets = classic.

jel, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If it doesn't withstand annihilation, it isn't art

dave q, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jubal Brown, a Toronto artist, intentionally vomited on paintings at the MoMA (i think) and the Art Gallery of Ontario as a statement against bourgeouis art or something. He ate food coloring to render his hurl in primary colours.

It just seems petty, reactionary and unimaginative.

He's a fucking dork anyway.

fritz, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But he still gets laid so... Oh never mind, bad joke.

nathalie, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

but you cant say that shit, cos then you have to answer "what is art?" eg: graffitti artsist think that some of the pieces they do is art. (i offer no personal opinion, at this time at any rate). then the nyc/london/rome/whereever cleans it off.

is that destroying art?

on the other side, is designing a building art? cos then, if some one graffittis on a beautiful/architecturally important building, then thats destroying some more art, right?

can you destroy art with art? i suppose thats what that guy doing the vomitting was all about.......

ambrose, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tristan Tzara said "life is more interesting than art" and it is.

Lyra, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lyra :
I will send you many scrumptious cakes for know TZARA !

anthony, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yay! I like scrumptious cakes and Anthony.

Lyra, Sunday, 16 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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