Collaborative writing is the act of taking the efforts and ideas of multiple authors and combining them to one work. Collaboration in general is particularly powerful for writing, as writing has no pace, and writers cannot interrupt oneanother. Writing has a permanence, and more recently a transmitability which allows multiple people to review and comment on a work. Most recently, collaborative writing systems have come to exist with the tools newly available thanks to computers and the internet.
Compare some collaborative writing systems such as the wiki with zuihitsu. Systems such as the wiki, which intentionally engender a fluidity of mind, when combined with a collaborative aspect will allow multiple authors to aid oneanother in subtle yet striking ways. Imagine one author with brilliant and yet unrefined and disorganized ways of thinking. Take said author and have those talents backed up with a researcher and an English teacher. The combination of multiple abilities is what makes collaborative writing most powerful. A harmony through participation can have all members' abilities greatly enhanced.
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)
To start a page for your nanowrimo novel, short story, film script etc you just have to edit the page, write two words (or more) together with cap letters ex: NewPage would create the "seed" page for your project. To add content to the new page, you just have to click on the question mark next to it: it'll make it a hyperlink when you'll get back there later. You have to try it to see how sweet and simple it is :-)
If anyone got a question on this don't hesitate and ask, I'll do my best to answer when I'll get back from work.
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)
for all that people scoff at the art by committee idea, pop music (and ROCK music, and indie music, etc.) and film are successful collaborative artforms, for all that critics try to impose a heroic-auteur model onto them. So why not writing as well?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)
anyway, ben and dom stud to thread
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
Well, you just count the number of times you've used the word "bootyflakes" and then you know.
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Collaborative writing doesn't often result in lasting or 'great' literature, but it is certainly a bit of harmless fun and is far more stimulating than watching the television. Think of it as another drinking game.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)
There was also collaboration between poets and calligraphers and painters in Japan (though often two or all three of those roles might be played by one person), to produce scrolls. I think this (and the prominence of monochrome ink illustration at the top of Japan's artistic tree) is why comics are so comfortably accepted in Japan.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.seedwiki.com/page.cfm?doc=CollaborativeWriting&wikiid=2315&wpid=
"Analysing society as a hypercomplex conglomerate of social subsystems, Luhmann insists that modern societies are so complex that his own theory of social complexity can offer only one possible formulation of the social among others. "this collaborative writing project could add many other formulation,a multiplicity depicting being @ multiplicity.
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Which brings me to my second point: speed and search
If only ixlor were faster and the search was Google's. I estimated that less than 1000 pages are index by Google
Replace Pete by your name: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22pete%22+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Filx.wh3rd.net
― Jan Geerinck (jahsonic), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
But technically writing is a collaborative artform. You have your suthor, and your publisher, and your editor, and in some cases your illustrator, etc. But having more than one author proper sounds difficult to work. Not impossible, just difficult. Like having three drummers for a band.
― mouse, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
2 comments that I liked there:
"I think this is a great idea as well. There are many collaborative short story boards on the web that work with one person writing the opening and each other writer following in sequence. Usually after a few entries they dry up or get rather silly. People tend to start with great sounding openings which somehow leave others no idea on how to follow up. An opening should lead to a plot, and thinking up an entire plot is almost as much work as writing a story yourself - and then if nobody else sees potential in your plot the collaborative project fizzles. Ideally someone who has a completed story which they still like but know is not usable as is would provide a seed - and hopefully a printable story with three or four co-authors would result. I would enjoy working on someone else's story - or have a couple of potential seeds if nobody else does. -- DavidWeisman "
"Well put, David. I used to run a seres of collaborative fiction games online (via InternetRelayChat), and I discovered that they worked best when we had established a few rules. Too many rules caused authors to seize up, while too few rules caused degeneration of the story into silliness or inanity. It might be worthwhile setting up a Wiki with a few established writing rules, perhaps including an intended direction for a few stories. -- BrentNewhall "
To optimize it's chances of success, I think each writing project should democratically establish a custom-made set of rules/recommendations/methodologies.
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Q : What is "scrytch"?
A : scrytch grew out of a need to write. more specifically, scrytch grew outof the need to try out collaborative prose in a networked forum. the idea wasthat multiple authors could combine various approaches and ideas, and that thefinished work would be richer than the sum of its parts.
the problem was that the e.list environment [in which scrytch is now beingdone] wasn't conducive to "finished" works, long works, or even necessarilycollaborative works. the first two problems were /almost/ limitations of themedium, and the last had to do with a raging debate in lit circles aboutauthorial property and appropriation.
what we ended up doing to come up with scrytch was concede: "ok, let's say thatwe treat this prose as a sort of compost-pile, memetic silage, idea-humus? andmore, what if we all agree that for the purposes of scrytch, words are fluid;it's a writing exercise, so let's say we can all appropriate freely bits andbytes from each others' scrytch? we can maybe publish 'anthologies' of scrytchsome day, but can't sell 'em, and can't claim it all as any one of ours? whatdo we get out of this individually? well, we get to see if collaborative prosecan even WORK in the network environment. we get to try out those cut-up andappropriation writing techniques that Burroughs warned us about. we get todevelop 100% net-rooted prose if we want. we get to try ANYTHING topic orapproach-wise, and we get to hone our respective styles in relation to theother scrytchers, so that when we DO go out and write a larger piece for saleor whatnot, we've had the hands-in-the-dirt practice with freedom of ideas andstyle to do it well!"
so this is what we agreed on, and now a bunch of writers are scrytching.
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)