I hope Alex Chiu has seen this.
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sommermute (Wintermute), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)
!!! God has very poor sentence structuring abilities.
― NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)
This one is ok.
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, God only counts in base 10 numbers...
― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)
(trying the thumb-to-finger-joints-thing, cartoon light bulb igniting over head)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)
The message is clearly in English because God hid it beyond the first hundred million digits and he carefully worked out what the dominant world language would be when we managed to find that many digits, right? Ahhh.
Oh, and search pi for your name. Or don't, of course.
― Frazer, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)
search string = "allah"25-bit binary equivalent = 0000101100011000000101000
search string found at binary index = 2518717596binary pi : 1100111100001011000110000001010000000100110011011001101010000110binary string: 0000101100011000000101000 character pi : :focome_qndrp:,t;oallahafmsjcc.ijgpnr.character string: allah
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mike Hanle y (mike), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dale the Merciless (cprek), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)
(and the universe vanishes in a soft puff of smoke)
(or maybe a lauryn hill chorus)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)
search string found at binary index = 3649262532 binary pi : 1001000001101010011010000011010000000000100111010111000000111101 binary string: 0110101001101000001101000 character pi : ,o,:;_dkrnedpmitch_d.n_;:ibd:ioh_;jtvi character string: mitch
"nedpmitch"! ned Ps me!! dan to universe!
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)
"I want you to stop touching yourself."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)
HAHAHA empirical proof that I AM GOD
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)
No, really?
― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)
This is the same as proving that Shakespeare was really an infinite number of chimpanzees. Which makes the pre-production rehearsals for Hamlet a more appealing thing to think about than previously, admittedly.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)
Can't be sure yet. I'm sitting here working pi out digit by digit. 5 billion done. When can I clock off? The end is coming, surely?
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)
But rather more pleasingly:
search string = "monkees" search string found at binary index = 711342142 character pi : x_cjx.kepewiotjsfpmonkeesd.hzfojvpbhu
― Simeon (Simeon), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.frailart.net/members/kodanshi/Hammylet.jpg
― N. Ron, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Davel, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― davel, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)
But davel's initial statement is wrong: irrational numbers don't have to contain all possible strings of numbers.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)
you could have a number like:
2.221221222122221222221222222122222221.....
and it would be non repeating, non terminating :D
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)
Thinking about this stuff makes me realise that I've forgotten most of the maths I ever knew. If I thought a little harder about that I'd remember that I was never much good at it anyway. It's all very pretty and neat and fascinating but when it comes to actually piecing it all together or remembering theorems etc my brain just doesn't seem built right.
― Frazer, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)
-- Jon Williams (x...), June 11th, 2003
But surely you can't call that random since it has a logical pattern to it? Each "1" separates an incrementally increasing number of "2"s.
― N. Ron, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)
i'm sure people have studied the randomness of the digits of pi
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)
John was giving an example of an irrational number that was not random which means that you cannot rely on the irrationality of a number to know if the digits compiling the number are random.
My statement is true if and only if the digits in pi are random (this is as yet unproven, see the above link).
Which begs the question, is there any infinite number that is completely random?
― davel, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)
But then again, it does not matter. Mathematically, pi is an irrational number whose string never terminates. That is to say, the numbers after the decimal point go on infinitely. Given Poincare's recurrence theorem, every conceivable set of numbers will at some point appear within the numbers of pi. By this logic, the entire King James version of the Bible is in there, as are all 8 volumes of "Remembrances of Things Past" by Marcel Proust. And let's not forget the convenient availability of an infinite number of ciphers to decrypt any given set of numbers with. In that context, perhaps it is not so impressive that the phrase he speaks of appears in it, since every phrase conceivable (and inconceivable) is also in it.
― King Kobra (King Kobra), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Einstein's quote regarding Spinoza's God :"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings."
Michael Gilmore wrote an article regarding "Einstein's God," that concluded: "Although not a favorite of physicists, Einstein, The Life and Times, by the professional biographer Ronald W. Clark (1971), contains one of the best summaries on Einstein's God: "However, Einstein's God was not the God of most men. When he wrote of religion, as he often did in middle and later life, he tended to...clothe with different names what to many ordinary mortals--and to most Jews--looked like a variant of simple agnosticism...This was belief enough. It grew early and rooted deep. Only later was it dignified by the title of cosmic religion, a phrase which gaveplausible respectability to the views of a man who did not believe in a life after death and who felt that if virtue paid off in the earthly one, then this was the result of cause and effect rather than celestial reward. Einstein's God thus stood for an orderly system obeying rules which could be discovered by those who had the courage, the imagination, and the persistence to go on searching for them." "Einstein continued to search, even to the last days of his 76 years, but his search was not for the God of Abraham or Moses. His search was for the order and harmony of the world. "
― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)
!!!
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 12 June 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Poincare's lesser-known theorem: "Like, pecan pie yo! MOFO BOMB!"
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 12 June 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)
Beats shoes, anyway.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)
From http://www.angelfire.com/mt/ofolives/pisearch.html
"Your Name In p!!!I searched 20000002 digits of p, and found GOD 1053 times. The first occurrence was at position 29639.
This is later than usual. About 77.8% of 3 letter words occur earlier than that.
You are the 11152nd p searcher overall, and the 108th to search for GOD (Since August 2000)."
Later than usual, eh? I'd expect nothing less from the fucker.
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)