Do you ever go to a movie/gig/club/theatre by yourself?

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Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I sometimes go to films on my own. Very occasionally to the theatre... the theatre is more problematic, as you look like a freak if you have no friend to talk to at the interval.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoops, I accidentally posted this before it was finished. What I was saying is, I never do this. If there's a movie I really want to see, and no one else does, I might think of going to see it alone, but this is quite rare. I've never been in a club/gig/theatre alone, for me the social aspect is definitely a major part of the fun.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been to a couple of gigs on my own, but that's okay because you can chat to random people and you spend most of it with a bloody loud band playing in front of you anyway.

I couldn't possibly imagine going to a club alone.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

For theatre and cinema, the fact that you can talk about the experience afterwards is really important. For gigs and clubs, I think they're social events to begin with. If I want to listen to music alone, I can do it at home. But being a electronic music enthusiast, I rarely go to gigs anyway; if I'd really love some rock band which none of my friends wanted to see, I guess I could go to a gig by myself.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't been to any of these on my own. I might go to the cinema, but definitely not to any of the others. There shouldn't be a stigma attached to going to these places alone, but there invariably is.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I see probably 90% of the films I see on my own. I have no friends (or at least no friends who
a) Want to see the films I do
b) Can put up with me talking about them afterwards).

I've seen just over fifty films this year, 6 with other people.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I go the the movies alone a fair amount, more because I do so on short notice, and even a day or two isn't enough for my friends to get their acts in gear. (present company excluded)

I occasionally go to gigs not knowing if anyone will be there, for stuff my friends look down on (Ash, MC Supernatural)

Matt OTM about clubs. I don't do theatre.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i have been to gigs by myself. not the others though

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Occasionally movies, though the last time was the first Harry Potter, so obviously not very recently. Never gigs or clubs or pubs. Which means it happens very infrequently (last time: February).

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i go to movies by myself a fair amount, and gigs once in a while, and when i was in stockholm on my own i went to a club alone...and you're all right, it was SCARY. finally, right when i was getting ready to leave a very nice guy introduced me to his gang of friends, so it was ok. but i'd think twice about doing that again.

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

cinema i love going to on my own on weekdays, during the day when i should be doing other things... this is a real luxury...
gigs less so but i do maybe once every couple of months, usually because I have to review them and no one else wants to go, so it's a case of having to (and I more often than not run into people I know anyway so it's not so bad), or it's something I really want to see when I'm travelling and in a strange city.
clubs less so but I have done it for work reasons. however, there are a couple of clubs i don't bother arranging to meet anyone at coz they're ones I go to regularly/friends of mine will be at/friends of mine run them and it's a given that i'll know a ton of people there anyway, but that's slightly different...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

never been to the theatre by myself. I've only been to the cinema by myself once (to see Judge Dredd!). But gigs yes, frequently.

MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I've gone to the movies by myself lots of times because I wanted to see something none of my friends wanted to see. I haven't had to do this in awhile because Dan usually wants to see the same movies I do, but I suspect I will be on my own for From Justin to Kelly.

Clubs and gigs, no. I never felt secure enough to do this.

Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I go to the cinema on my own more often than I go with other people. I just don't think of the cinema as a particularly social activity. You're just sitting there watching the screen in silence, for goodness sake. I would feel a similar way about the theatre, but as DV says, there is the interval thing.

Concerts, I have occasionally gone to alone. But I feel a bit weird and it's usually more fun with others.

Clubs on my own? No, that's just very weird. Unless you are likely to see lots of people you know there. But yeah, I know some people do it. I feel weird just standing or dancing on my own in a club for more than about 2 minutes, if friends are at the bar or whatever, like everyone's thinking "Is that guy just here on his own or something? That's a bit weird - must keep away from him"

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, clubs are an iffy one - you really have to be at the heart of the club in question's particular scene and know a LOT of people there or it's just horrible cf. the three occasions i've had to do it for work...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

of course there's no real reason why people shouldn't go to clubs on their own, but it really boils down to this: going to see a movie, you see the movie and don't want to talk during it (also why a very bad date idea unless you hate the person), gigs same, but clubs, an integral part of the fun is socialising as well as music...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

(Repeated on ILF) Yes, I'd say over 50% of the time for movies/shows. It sucks, yes, but when I think about what I might've missed out on seeing, I have no regrets whatsoever. This also goes for traveling, too. Of course, it is so much more fun to have a friend come along, but if that's not possible, then don't let it stop you.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The only time I went to the cinema on my own was to see farewell my concubine, I ended up in floods of tears, and regretted being on my own so much cos I felt like a complete twat.

Clubs - Never gone on my own, but I've stayed on when my friends have gone home, cos I was enjoying myself too much. obviously I was very pissed, as I would not have done this otherwise, and it did feel a bit odd, but I always managed to find a group of girls who'd feel sorry for me 'your friends have just left you, that's awful!', that I could tag onto if I needed it.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Girls are nice.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I go places by myself all the time. What's the big deal?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't feel a twat in a club?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Not if I'm going to see a band.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, well that's the gigs thing. That's not so odd. Generally by clubs we mean DISCOS.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Shindigs. Bops. Hops.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Eh, I never go to those anyway. They're depressing even when I am with someone.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the big deal is that some people feel very self concious about being alone in certain places/situations. For example I could never go on holiday by myself, I'd feel too uncomfortable having to rely on myself to make conversations with strangers, and do everything on my own. Most people worry about what other people think to some degree, and this is concentrated when you're in a social situation on your own, as you feel much more noticeable.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

When I moved to a new high school for my last 2 years and I didn't have any friends, I did basically everything by myself, including going to movies and shows. It was ok, I got used to it. But now I go everywhere with Sarah and I'm not used to being by myself anymore. I wanted to go see 28 Days Later this weekend when Sarah's out of town because she's not as big on ZOMBIES as I am, but it won't be out for a couple of weeks, so I guess I'll have to figure something else out.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

eating in a restaurant alone is the oddest, I think.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i've seen a few films on my own (Three Kings, Snatch, Matrix reloaded the second time - going to the cinema on your own is totally acceptable considering you're not going there to talk to people), been to a few gigs on my own (altho only to review them), club? (technically yes tho i have always met people i vaguely know once inside as intended so doesnt quite count). don't do the theare.

its going to the pub on your own thats the one i can't handle!

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been meaning to pick up a book Robert D. Putman wrote about this i.e. 'the decline in social capital': Bowling Alone.

stevo (stevo), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i've thought about going bowling on my own...

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Eating out alone is fine. A good book and a big curry. And sometimes you bump into people you know in the restaurant (hello Starry & Ktee).

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been to clubs on my own when I've known a bunch of people who are likely to be there. But on those occasions it doesn't feel like I'm going on my own.

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

But don't you all agree that there's something irritating about people who can't seem to go ANYWHERE by themselves, and have to spend every second they're alone chattering away on their cell phone? What is this phenomenon all about?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Blocking out the fear of death.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

films either on my own if tis 'arty' stuff. if its american stuff then i grab a friend of mine to come along.

gigs: always on my own but since ILM and FAPS i have run into ILXORS. I've been to abt 10 gigs and i'd say 8 of those i've run into ppl from ILM.

clubs/theatre: don't go to them

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Blocking out the fear of death.

no just the fear of being alone surely

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

or the fear of being approached by some corny indie gig-goerX0r?

Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i once turned down a free ticket to see Massive Attack at London Arena because it would've meant going on my own - how crazy is that? i think at the time (bout 4 and a half years ago) i was just fed up with doing enough stuff solo and it was just going too far.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

the thing that's bad about going to clubs on your own is that you would feel weird talking to girls (and that's a BIG part of going to clubs), especially when she says: "so who are you here with, then?"... it shouldn't be the case but it is, that's why solo clubbing = bad and solo gigging/cinema = perfectly OK...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Exactly.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Putnam is a c*ck-farmer: it's not so much the social capital argument that's a problem (although it does seem to give a sociological sheen to some familiar old modernity / alienation narratives; and to over-generalise from one arena of empirical study (Italy) to other developed industrial countries), as the consequences he draws from it -- the relationship between social capital and political capital is neither direct nor one of equivalence. Such accounts are always depoliticizing (even when describing and accounting for depoliticization) by displacing political change from the political sphere to the quasi-natural forces of social development. (At least this is what I think only having read a little bit of his work and some convincing criticisms! Also I skipped his keynote at the PSA this year)

alext (alext), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

?!

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to go as a student to the movies alone. Purely for the relaxation of turning my brian off for a couple of hours. I also used to go to what passed for a club/meat market at university, but that was because I knew about 80% of the people there and disliked most of them. They also had a foozball table to clam my aggression.

I still do go to gigs or bars to see bands alone all the time. I don't mind it in the least, its easier then travelling in a large group to see a band.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

When I lived in London I often did these alone because most of my friends worked in pubs/bars and were never available when I was available. I saw The Fall, The Buzzcocks, Frank Black and Sleater Kinney by myself. I saw countless movies by myself because I had no TV and needed mindless entertainment at times. And I even went to this Ninja Tune birthday bash all along Curtain Road by myself. I actually just met these 3 guys in line and hung out with them all night and danced. They were surprised I would go somewhere like that alone.

Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

What about going to pubs on your own? There was a time when I would never set foot in a pub alone, now I quite enjoy going in to read a book or the paper over a pint. Just one mind, spending an entire evening in the pub alone would depress the hell out of me.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i already mentioned pubs and was just about to post again on that subject. i still do not feel right going to the pub on my own tho i have done a few times (not quite by choice). i feel simultaneous sympathy and contempt for all those old geezers who spend the whole evening in the pub on their own but do not particularly lokk as if they are enjoying themselves and hope i don't go the same way to be honest.

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I suffer from a slight inability to be alone, so often I'll try calling everyone on my "short list" before I actually go ahead and decide to hop on the bus to see a movie. But it really depends on the movie. I wouldn't want to take someone along to see something that I suspect they wouldn't like, nor do I want to always be the guy who's dragging his friends to films that *he* wants to see above all. So I end up going alone just under half the time. But I do think that film is a social activity--from the chattering during the ads to the chattering afterward, and the silent gauging of the rest of the audience's (and your friend's) reaction during the picture-- so I prefer company.

I rarely, rarely go to shows alone. I tend to get bored during opening acts, and often during the main act as well, so I really need company. Also I feel a bit "exposed" being at certain shows by myself. Sometimes that works in my favor and I get the nerve to talk to random people; most times however I just stand around and look forlorn.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Movies: regularly. I guess I've seen 25 films in the last year, and about three quarters I went on my own - mostly SE Asian films that only I was especially keen on. I do prefer going with a friend or two, but it's a fairly small difference - I just get to sit and read when the film isn't on.

Gigs: I've been to a few on my own when I desperately wanted to see the act and no one else around did. But there is so much standing around doing nothing that it is a big loss, doing it alone.

Theatre: hardly ever go, and haven't gone alone, but I'd see it the same way as a movie, I think.

Clubbing: not since the '70s. There was a period of a few months when I left school (boarding school, no one at which lived near the family home) when I was pretty lonely for a while and would go to the local discos alone. I'd sometimes meet someone I knew, but not that often. No fun at all, generally. I can't see myself ever doing this again.

Pubs I got to alone only when waiting for someone, or sometimes to my local for Sky football. There are one or two people there I sometimes chat to, but really I'm just as happy sitting quietly and reading when the game isn't on.

Restaurants: well, if I'm hungry and meeting people for an evening doing something that won't involve food (booze, movie, whatever) I might grab something alone. Again, the book comes out.

I think I might be relatively unusual in being really comfortable doing all these things on my own, but also being a genuinely gregarious person.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I go to movies alone all the time--usually about 3-5 times a week, though this to be fair has a lot to do with my job. But still I love seeing movies by myself. I go to shows alone now and then, but usually I can expect to see lots of people I know (esp. if the show is at the Casa del Popolo/Sala Rossa).

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel better seeing movies alone when it's a morning or afternoon screening. leaving a theatre by myself at 11 pm and making my way home can be kind of depressing. whereas if i get out at 3 pm or something, i still have the evening ahead of me and don't feel like a chump.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

that's true (and morning screenings rule)

though I love stepping out of a movie into nighttime downtown madness

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

some people are okay with being alone but they hate to be SEEN doing something on their own, even if its something they enjoy

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

oh I know what you're talking about

s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Depending on the film, sometimes I prefer to go see it alone rather than with friends, to avoid the obligatory talky talky.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean don't get me wrong, I'm prone to the same "OMG I'M MISERABLE I FEEL LIKE A CHUMP I WANNA DIE" feelings you guys get, but I tend to feel that way all the time anyway, so I'm pretty used to it.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

*violins*

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

*slamming house beat*


it is...


"cotton-eyed joe"

(accompanies all of jody's somber moments natch.)

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

also jody check yr email.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I did... whatever you sent hasn't come yet.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

oh man, i have gone to see a hundred bands by myself. yeah, i am a loner i suppose but i never feel bad about it. plus, people are unreliable.

kephm, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Movies, almost never, as my wife is a huge cinephile and would kill me if I went to one by myself, since I'm a bit difficult to get motivated to see one in the theater due to latent agoraphobia.

Gigs, on occasion, though as I get into my late 30s it gets more and more awkward and depressing, especially if I don't recognize anyone else in the audience. During a particular girlfriend-less phase around 1998, I was going to loads of shows alone at the Empty Bottle, and ended up experiencing a few of those totally unexpected, drunken great times, especially Momus and the surprising Lilys.

Clubbing...er, no. That's never been a word in my lexicon.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

films: was a period in time when I didn't stigmatize myself for going solo, but now I've found myself watching many more popcorn flicks just to be able to go out with some older chums who a) I don't feel particularly close with emotionally and b) have very pedestrian tastes (hence the popcorn flicks). I've forced myself a couple times to see a film on my own, these are obviously artier films, but there's still a wistfulness involved because I used to be friends with someone who had similar cinematic tastes.

gigs are even worse because these same chums have zero in common with me musically, so by default I have to go alone. I've done it with autechre, Plaid (twice, natch), and Sleater Kinney, they were mostly good shows because I enjoyed the music for its own sake, but Amon Tobin I didn't care for and I was utterly miserable. I haven't gone to a gig since, thus missing P73/RJD2. Sometimes I try to chat up random people, but I'm dreadful at it and it's normally uncomfortable for all parties.

There is however one small advantage for me, in that I'm very self-conscious about my 'dancing' and if I know that someone is scrutinizing me, I'm far less likely to 'cut loose.' So the anonymity in going alone actually relaxes me in some cases.

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I go to lots of concerts & movies alone because I don't want a person to come with me to something, sit through it angry and confused, and then tell me that it was "...interesting..." when I asked "how'd ya like it?"

Of course, you'll always have the occasional bad encounter...a few weeks ago I saw "Irreversible" by myself in a Detroit-area theater. When the Monica B. rape scene started, a gentleman in an overcoat came in and sat directly behind me. Now, there are about 10 people in this particular afternoon showing, and his motivations for sitting behind me are elusive at best, but I immediately moved to a less-crowded section in the back of the theater.

I never have problems at concerts -- being 6'6" with a shaved head and stoic features usually helps -- but there's always something with the movies that pops up every once in a while.

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't go to clubs (as in dance music) or the theatre, so those are out.

Gigs, I've been alone once. I got off work late and there was a band I really wanted to see, so I drove to Deep Ellum still wearing my godawful uniform Hawaiian shirt and khaki shorts. It just felt really awkward - I'm not the most sociable person to start with, and I wasn't drinking because I had to drive out back to A-town and work in the morning. It was just weird, I probably wouldn't do it again.

The last movie I saw with another person was the Bourne Identity. My schedule's so screwy, I decide to go at the very last minute, usually on a Monday or Tuesday. And when I do go, it's for something none of my friends want to see - and likewise, I'd rather have my eyes gouged out than see 2Fast 2Furious.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I do all of these (well, not theatre too often, or movies for that matter--simply because I don't go at all very often) by myself. Movies are most definately not a social thing; it seems almost odd to me to go to one with a group of friends. I can see the appeal of going to shows/clubs with people whom you allready know, but honestly, isn't it more trouble than it's worth? If I get lonely I just call people up and say "hey, I'm at X, come meet me".

I really don't understand why going out on ones own should/would be stigmatized at all.

mouse, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no problem with any of these, but admittedly I only go to clubs where I can guarantee I will meet people I know. I go to gigs, the cinema and football matches on my own a lot (mr ailsa has a hugely dissimilar taste in all three), and don't feel bad about it at all.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, it's weird to read how many people on this thread feel awkward about doing some of these things alone. I mean, I do them all alone, often in fact. Well, as many have said not the theatre because I don't have an interest in it. But movies? All the time. Gigs? All the time? Discos? Yeah, I generally prefer to go with others, but if I can't find anyone I sure as hell going to let that stop me from attending a dj set I want to hear. I've never been particularly self-conscious about it, I figure there's a good chance of bumping into someone I know anyway. Also, some clubs and bars you go to often enough, you get to know the staff and bartenders, so there is always the option of sitting at the bar bantering with them. I do lots of stuff alone - go to baseball games, travel - actually every year now for a few years I've flown to Las Vegas by myself, but that's also with the knowledge that a friend of mine is going to be there for work reasons at the same time. So I meet up with him when he arrives, but I still spend large swaths of time by myself.

Plus I love the freedom, I never want to have to be linked to someone else's enjoyment of some event. If I'm at a bar or club and the person I'm with wants to leave before I do that's always a big bummer. Also, I really like chatting up random strangers in these types of places. I don't know, it's funny; I actually consider myself a pretty shy person, but for whatever reason I seem to have some facility with engaging complete strangers in these types of venues. I guess maybe it just comes from practice, I tend to do a lot of stuff alone!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I go to all three alone, though I haven't for quite a while. When I first moved here to DC I knew next to nobody so I ended up going to a live show, down to the club neighborhood, and to the theater all by my lonesome, just in the first week. I don't really need anybody to retreat to, especially in a movie theater, where you just sit and observe anyway. I don't ever feel the need to force the social aspect - if I feel like it I'll try and talk to someone, but otherwise I'm quite content to sit back and peoplewatch. In fact I think that moments spent sitting alone in a bar or club or at a gig and just watching all the people enjoying themselves and going about their crazy lives are probably some of the most satisfied, stress-free moments of my existence.

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

gah, meant to write "not going to let it stop me" up there (if I can't find someone else to go)

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, Millar OTM - I feel the same way.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been to the cinema a few times alone, and I always wish I could force myself to do it more often. I do get embarrassed for no good reason. I definitely wouldn't go to certain films on my own (like Irreversible, mentioned above), which is mad. Once I was actually queuing up to see Spider-Man of all things, but because the rest of the queue was all kids I decided against it. Being alone can sometimes make me imagine everyone views me as a pervert.

I go to pubs all the time by myself. I don't have a problem with it at all, during the day at least. After about 7 o'clock it gets a bit uncomfortable, especially Fridays and Saturdays. Very melancholy. But if football's showing that's fine.

If I was travelling somewhere, or had just moved to some place, I'd definitely do everything alone without shame. I'd imagine everyone around could see and understand that I had no choice. I ought to imagine everyone around is assuming that now, even when I know I've just come from down the road. That'd be all right.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Aye... Most of the time I go to gigs and movies by myself. Don't go to clubs at all, so it don't matter.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I go to more gigs alone than with other people. My friends who like the same music as me have generally moved out of town, so there isn't really another option. Also, it's pretty miserable to go see a band you love and have someone whose opinion you respect abuse them all the way home. It suits me better: I can decide if and when to go at the last minute, instead of having to make plans and agree them with someone else. Same with travelling, and films (although I don't go to the cinema all that often, and then it's for the cheap morning showings). For some reason, though, going to the theatre's always been a social thing for me: there's only been one play I went to alone in the past year.

If I went to clubs, I probably wouldn't do it alone. They've always struck me as being pretty much entirely social, and I don't tend to talk to strangers or have strangers talk to me. Which saves me from scary people, at least.

cis (cis), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

i occaisonally go to a gig by myself but only if im feeling sociable and i know theres gonna be folks i know there. sometimes i end up having a great time cos i can talk to lots of people and flirt and leave when i want with who i want ... movies no altho i think i have a coupla times in 38 years .... i have never been to a club in my life with people or alone!

squeakypil, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't read the thread (maybe later) but yeah I do all those things by myself all the time.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I personally intend to go to a show by myself tonight (Xiu Xiu). Though there is a very high probability I will run into at least a few friends there.

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 12 June 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't done it in years.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 12 June 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

the only one i've done alone is gigs, but that's because i'm not gonna miss seeing a band i really love just because i'll be alone.

i always think going to a movie or club alone would be too er...lonely and depressing.

sand.y, Thursday, 12 June 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

xiu xiu was good live. they take the admirable risk of being really serious and melodramatic.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 12 June 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i go to gigs by myself frequently but these days my friends are into gigging as well so it doesn't happen as often. i used to go clubbing by myself frequently when i was in my early 20s but i was invariably spastic drunk anyway. never been to a movie by myself, but then i don't really enjoy the movies that much..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 June 2003 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

it feels more decadent when I go to the movies alone, though I don't do it that often.

I would only go to a show alone if I could sit down, but then I hate the normal (non-sitting etc.) atmosphere at shows enough that I'm not likely to go to a normal one anyway.

Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

xiu xiu was good live. they take the admirable risk of being really serious and melodramatic.

you can say that again! it was only the lead guy, jamie something, alone with an electric guitar. he does a whole lot with his voice that guy--when he played the first song of a promise (I forget what it's called), he vocalized the tape noise bit in the middle. It was terrific!

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 12 June 2003 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, there are logistical issues involved in going alone -- if you live in a relatively small city where all the good music venues are NOT, but instead 45 miles away on a major highway, it sure helps to have a body to carpool with.

Also, it's pretty miserable to go see a band you love and have someone whose opinion you respect abuse them all the way home.

But it can be deflating to be driving home after a tremendous show and have no one to share it (and the warm glow) with. Conversely, if it was a lousy gig, then someone to support you.

Leee (Leee), Thursday, 12 June 2003 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"Purely for the relaxation of turning my brian off for a couple of hours"

-- Mr Noodles (infinitecow...) (webmail), June 11th, 2003 12:40 AM. (Mr Noodles) (later) (link)

My brian won't ever shut up!

Nellie (nellskies), Thursday, 12 June 2003 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)

mine either. it makes reading very difficult

i go to movies and shows by myself or with other people and i don't go to discos by myself or with other people

ron (ron), Thursday, 12 June 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It strikes me that I could happily put up my movie going schedule here and then if anyone wanted to see one of them they could happily turn up.

Obv inviting mentalist hell but hey walking down the street in London does that.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd be inclined to join you for some, Pete, if you wanted company. It would get me to go to more films than normal too, which would please me.

This is why we need an ILX diary system of some kind. I am trying to envisage how it could be, to propose something. We are intersecting locale, date, time, activity and planned attenders. I'm struggling to come up with a model that is easy to use, useful, and not insanely hard to code. The Outlook Calendar model is no good, as it doesn't let me see what might be coming up in London generally, for instance.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 12 June 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I often go clubbing on my own, but one of my best friends is the DJ in the club. I've still had the odd few hours where he's DJing and I'm sipping a pint or dancing alone.

But it's never really that bad, I sometimes like the anonymity of it, something about the solitary thing which appeals to me too.

Do people really say "who's that weirdo".

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 June 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

or the fear of being approached by some corny indie gig-goerX0r?

B-b-but that's how I met three of my last four exes!

I honestly don't see the problem in going to any of these things alone -- trying to get my friends to do something other than go see one of their favorite bands is like herding cats. But then I'm a deeply introverted person, and more often than not am happy to be by myself.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 12 June 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got to want to see a movie pretty badly if I go and see it by myself. I think I've seen three movies alone before and it was a fun, it's just hard to convince myself to do anything without someone pulling on my shirt sleeve and egging me on.

Bars--ew, this is bad. Well, when I first turned 21 I had no one to go to the bar with and I INSISTED on going to this lame hippie bar all the time. I'd sit at the bar, by myself, order a beer... drink about a quarter of it, and then inevitably some dude would try and talk to me (not pervishly, just.. talking), and I'd leave. Unfun. I think I went hoping I'd meet someone cool.

Clubs, never went to one alone and I would imagine it would be even worse than the above. I love clubs, though, JBR is wrong.

Gigs, yes, I've been to one gig alone before. It was like the bar experience except I stayed for the whole thing. It was the band "Call and Response"

Eating in a restaurant alone is so embarassing, especially when I get caught without reading material so I just sadly eat alone, looking at my food. Eating lunch alone seems acceptable, but eating dinner alone is just beyond sad.

Mandee, Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

mr. diamond's post on this thread roolz!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

More or less, I'm with Jody on this one.

I only want people with me at any of the above if I'm invited by said people and wouldn't normally go to said places for enjoyment anyway. I don't really care for movies, bar hopping, or dance events that much -- so, yeah, I need a social reason to do those.

But holy f'in shit, I can't imagine how painful my life would be if I had to seek accompaniment to go to every gig and restaurant! *shudder*

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate making plans so generally go to things on my own. I find it impossible to commit to a future event that is more than an afternoon away. I go to cinema on my own and but for the times when I want to hold someone's hand it's fine. Gigs are fine too and dublin is quite small so I always bump into someone I know. Clubs (as in discos) I don't go to. I do go to club nights but, as with gigs, I always have a pretty good idea who's likely to be there.

I spent a summer in London when I was seventeen. I headed over not knowing anyone. Went out on my own (as the alternative was spending the summer reading in a flat in Camden) and had the most pheNOMenal summer. I ran into lots of great people and felt free for the first time in my life. I think that's why I like going out on my own now, wvwn if I run into people when I get to the venue - it pumps me up and I feel in control.

Lara (Lara), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Ug. Let me change "I only want people.." to "I only require people..."

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 12 June 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I have often gone to clubs alone to dance to music that no-one else I know likes (most dance music actually!). It's weird at first, especially if you get there and nobody's dancing yet, but my mind tends to vacate once I'm dancing so it ceases to be a problem.

Obv. I prefer to go with other people.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I treasure my time alone. I enjoy the bus journey as much as the night out.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 14 June 2003 12:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Just saw 'Spellbound' by myself. It was too short! It was a decent sort of movie to see alone, but there was a lot of humorous stuff and sometimes it's better to laugh with someone else.

Aaron A., Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll happily go to a pub alone and write. I could imagine seeing a film alone, tho I never have got round to it. Gigs? Eh maybe, but again I never have.

Clubs OTOH I have gone to alone before, but as other people have said, it is because its a scene I know a LOT of people in and know they'll be there. I dont do it anymore but at one point I forced myself to, just so I could fucking well start meeting people somewhere other than online for a change.

I'd never go to an unfamiliar club alone.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I've probably been out clubbing by myself more times than with friends - I just don't know the right people (esp. up in Auckland - I'm probably the only common factor between hip-hop nights at fu, the glitch/dub/etc at luminaire, & the queer trance-disco) & with the right dj/music & the right dancefloor/crowd I end up losing myself for hours. I've never ever been a social dancer though.
Gigs - all the time, though I usually end up socialising & eventually know quite a few people. Don't have a problem standing about thinking/reading/writing/etc, anyway. & I've never been to a big gig.
+ I'm usually the only dancing person, which tends to isolate me somewhat from all the hipster wallflower scum.
Films - usually on my own (though back in Dunedin seeig a film with m4rc3l & the post-film conversation was one of the best things evah) - again, I don't know any film people up in Ak.
I only end up at theatre if friend drag me along, so.

Ess Kay (esskay), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)


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