how do you quit the rat race ?

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piscesboy, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

kill the rats

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(answer may not necessarily be serious)

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Pay debts.
2. Save.
3. Get the fuck out.

Step three should occur when you think you're about six months from being ready.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Bank robbery. Private plane. Island in the Carribean.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Make your own cheese. or soap.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Change your priorities.
Win lots of money.
Move to somewhere cheaper.

Sarah mcLusky (coco), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Marry someone rich. Like the Bizarro Universe Me.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

http://foreverblue.bravepages.com/images/splinter.gif

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

dammit jon!

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Kill yrself.

Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

. Think of the sum of the stuff you need to produce to make the living you want as 100 points.
Search for participatory economy groups of any kind (LETS, coop etc)that are active in your city and work with them, try to increase the amount of the "productivity points" you make with them until 100% of the stuff you produce is made outside the "rat race" and there you go.

. Drop off the race by selling your stuff and moving in a third world country.

. Excel at the race until you win: you'll get financially emancipated and maybe you'll have a word to say if you want to perpetuate or change it's rules.

.Get vitrificated and come back when the time will be more interesting for you.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Depends on what kind of rat race you're stuck in, pboy. What do you work as? Maybe you just need to shift sideways into something more personally rewarding and less concerned with making money.

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.beebfun.com/images/gl.jpg

Alan (Alan), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

haha i seriously thought how great it would be to move to france and become a market gardener - trade turnips for wine, learn french and just be drunk ALL the time, wear one pair of clothes and a hat (maybe a truckers hat...with mesh backing) how great would life be

james (james), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

become a tramp

Erik, Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

do tramps exist anymore - they seem to have been usurped by
"The homeless" - although in Cambridge i did see a man with a huge rip down his trousers who looked like a tramp from days of olde so maybe they are making a return

james (james), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i did see a man with a huge rip down his trousers who looked like a tramp

or a deconstructivist

Erik, Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

do they have grey beards and cans of hard ale

james (james), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

damn it, that picture rules..

http://while1.net/~xm/misc/splinter.gif

Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a radical rat.

There are still some good old fashioned gentlemen of the street out there. We have a regular down our bar (who we tell unaware first years is the head of the college.)

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

"although in Cambridge i did see a man with a huge rip down his trousers who looked like a tramp from days of olde so maybe they are making a return"- The retro tramp revival? I just can't keep up!

Get signed off on the maize.

Invent something amazing and live off the proceeds.

Grow a fucking great horsey face, try to be accepted into a lazy scumbag over-priveledged family and live off the tax/fat of the land. Those fuckers Edward, Charles, Elizabeth etc etc do pretty well.

Badger (Badger), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The episode of Good Neighbors with the leek thief is still the best.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

seven years pass...

Nobody really took this question very seriously, did they?

I am interested in people who have done this in some fashion, or know people that have. What worked and what didn't. What did quitting the rat race entail? Anyone ever done it and (really) regretted it?

Also please suggest movies and books about people quitting the rat race. I have seen/read The Mosquito Coast and Off The Grid. Doesn't have to be moving to Central America or New Mexico desert, could maybe be a small town or city, I don't know.

puff pastry hangman (admrl), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

This is for a friend who is interested in this subject and too shy to use the internet.

puff pastry hangman (admrl), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

There are many ways to quit the rat race, but nothing about life is quite as straightforward as that phrase implies. It is never just one decision, or one action, but a profound change of direction that must eventually embrace all the parts of your life.

It can start in very small ways. You don't have to change everything overnight. In fact, the "walk away from your whole life for a fresh start" method is not the one I'd recommend. Better to start with adding skills that can substitute for money, and an applied philosophy of simplification in your relationship to possessions.

Even if you are poor and have few possessions, learn to see them as sufficient, and reduce your desire for more, and newer stuff. Then move on to the earning side of the equation. Look for work, or a way to earn that feels gratifying, instead of merely draining.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Because it takes decades to really nail all this down. I wish you friend luck.

Aimless, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:30 (fourteen years ago)

see

Albert Brooks's Lost in America

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:32 (fourteen years ago)

(regrets aplenty)

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:32 (fourteen years ago)

I have been in the rat race for less than 2 years, and these questions are already weighing heavily in my mind. Every single part of my life has gotten worse since I got a steady job. I feel so terribly unsatisfied. The most interesting part of the day is choosing which album to listen to on the way into work that will most beautifully reflect the awful dystopian view of everything that I've developed. My relationship with my s.o. has deteriorated, and it's mostly my fault because I'm just fucking BORING now. I bore myself, just with my everyday thoughts. It's boring to listen to, especially when you can't get away from it. At night I can't sleep and I just think about work because that's really the only area where things are happening, even if they're negative things.

waaaah

The thing is, my student loan debt is so monumental - I'm actually PAYING for this horrible situation! - that I don't really have the option of quitting my job.

Z S, Thursday, 17 March 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

youre a rad dude & your work has value

B0hn J. (Lamp), Thursday, 17 March 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

skills that can substitute for money

WANT

kkvgz, Thursday, 17 March 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

that sounds awful. imo you should take the feedback of those shitty feelings that your job is creating in you very seriously. the fact that you feel that it's affecting your relationship, your sleeping patterns really sucks. you shouldn't have to be consistently miserable, i think

it may sound counter-intuitive what with the heavy student loan debt, but do you imagine that you'd be happier if you were immersed in doing school stuff again? or is it possible to make your work schedule lighter or find an employment situation with less hours? i realize you don't want to have the burden of the loans hanging over you forever or feel like they are getting worse, but at the same time you can't let it dominate your life and rob you of your ease of mind, happiness

dell (del), Thursday, 17 March 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

What he said, Z S. I too have monumental student loans, enough to buy a small house! Sometimes they bother me, but whatevs, I just got out of grad school and they're in forbearance right now. Aimless' advice is kind of good but the "get out of debt" part is simply not an option for me. All I can do is manage it, which I have come to accept. I still don't think I have to give up "happiness" for it and going back to school was very helpful in so many ways.

puff pastry hangman (admrl), Thursday, 17 March 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)


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