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do you ever feel like a fraud?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"what's your first name, mr. burns?"

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Whant to buy gucci hand bag, very cheap price, all genuine?

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Only when I force myself to come up with 800 words about something I couldn't give less of a shit about. Like the new Radiohead.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

― dave q, Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

every time i strap on the pads and go into bat.

― Chris Radford (Chris Radford), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)

and yes, but I suspect mostly when my ambitions tower over my perceived accomplishments. there's a good deal of self-doubt involved in those, so it can be hard to tell.

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:22 (twenty-two years ago)

no, never. literally.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

josh what the fuck are you doing posting to ilm and not on aim

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

every day, lately.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

computer broke. no aim on this one.

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

and yes I have tried.

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I just got a crosspost warning (why did people ever start calling it that, 'crosspost' is something totally different, unless the etymology here leads back to ghostbusters) for my own previous post. I am pleased.

and I just got it for the next one too when I tried to post this one!

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:35 (twenty-two years ago)

you sank my battleship

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

how does one deal with feelings of fraudulence?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

drugs and booze

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)

don't front.

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:43 (twenty-two years ago)

that was a serious answer by the way. but fronting is not the only cause of feelings of fraudulence.

somehow you have to not even do things that SEEM like you might end up fronting.

somehow this might be related to that thread where someone asks mark s 'is anyone not dumb? and is anyone a good enough writer?'

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:45 (twenty-two years ago)

you have to not do those things, that is, because otherwise you're in danger of seeming that way to yourself. (not seeming that way to anyone at all is one way of going about that, though, ha.)

sorry if this is useless, jess.

― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I wondered about "crosspost" for ages myself, a strange usage that seems pretty much endemic to this place.

Anyway, Josh pretty much nailed the answer to the question.

On the other hand, what's the problem with fronting ultimately? Everyone that puts pants on in the morning does so to some extent.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 12 June 2003 07:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i work in a profession full of fronters (and punters), where not "fronting" can be deadly for one's career. so it rubs off, i suppose.

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 June 2003 08:00 (twenty-two years ago)

how does one deal with feelings of fraudulence?

Depressed or undepressed, I feel that my faults and stupidities are pretty much obvious (and by this I don't mean they're enormous and multitudinous, just transparent to everyone, except perhaps me), so when I get depressed, the depression doesn't express itself in terms of feelings of fraudulence -- I never think in terms of a front some people are getting fooled by.

So I don't really know what to say. The only thing I can lamely offer is, well, do the things you do to fight depression.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 12 June 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel this every time I go to some meeting in my suit and tie, and I have to speak in front of some senior people as if I'm an expert pro who knows exactly what he's doing when it is surely obvious that I'm not even a proper grown-up yet. I am now 44, and have given up on ever growing out of this feeling.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I've ever not felt like a fraud.

― hstencil, Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to feel like a fraud all the time, then I stopped being full of shit and started being honest with myself and others no matter what. Now, I don't feel like a fraud anymore; instead I feel like a lousy good-for-nothing dipshit screw-up. But I actually enjoy that.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to say that this is one of the most important subjects one can raise, to my mind. For me, the short answer is that feeling like a fraud=probable sign that there's one particular piece of gnarly emotional work I'm not doing (telling somebody I'm angry with them, etc). I think when that when one goes through the "I can't do this job, it's not my passion/I don't actually care as much as I front like I do" thing, it's a safe place to experience feelings that in other arenas might demand really hard work of the sort that nobody wants to do i.e. being completely open. NB "completely open" doesn't mean "totally aggro/emo." Or "wearing a lot of patchouli."

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

On the other hand, what's the problem with fronting ultimately? Everyone that puts pants on in the morning does so to some extent.

-- Mr. Diamond (electrifyingmoj...) (webmail), June 12th, 2003 3:56 AM. (diamond) (link)

i take umbrage with the masculocentric nature of this post.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/smogsite/ex-con.jpg

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 6 September 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

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