S&D International Cuisine

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S: Gyros, Kimchi, Mongolian Barbecue, Pho, Okonomiyake, Sushi, Cajun Blackened anything, Bratwurst w/ Sauerkraut, Tapas, Tacos, Enchiladas, American Bacon, Pizza, Cheeseburgers, Grits, Pomme Frites, Kebabs, Goulash, French Onion Soup, Chicken Curry, Srirachi Chili Sauce, Shin Ramyun, Hot & Sour Soup, Miso, Caesar Salad, Slim Jims.

D: Couscous, eggrolls, deep fried Chinese anything, Middle-eastern style white rice, Spanish rice, Macaroni and Cheese, cheeseless hamburgers, knockwurst, a whole bunch of other middle-eastern staple foods, all that Thai shit with peanuts all over it, Kung Pao anything, naengmyun (korean cold noodles), refried beans, Nacho Cheese Dip.

Millar (Millar), Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

all that Thai shit with peanuts all over it

So long as you specify that Thai food WITHOUT peanuts is at least okay, then I let you live. Otherwise you are a parasite from planet Tharg and I'm sending '86 Schwarznegger after you to take care of the problem.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Jerk chicken. Jerk chicken. Jerk chicken.

cybele (cybele), Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck you too. Fuck you too. Fuck you too.

NA. (Nick A.), Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

So much anger in a food thread... *sigh*

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The history of food could be considered a history of anger. think about it.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Jerk chicken. Jerk chicken. Jerk chicken.

At Ma's!

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

All the destroys Millar listed, save Nacho Cheese Dip, are perfectly fine when properly prepared, even if 99% of the time they are not.

Destroy: tamales. I just don't understand why anyone would want to eat those things.

fletrejet, Thursday, 12 June 2003 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

You just have to have the right tamales... Fave place: the tamale cart at the intersection of Santa Monica Blvd. and Vermont.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar your "destroy" list is almost 100% psycho

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

just like me

Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

WHALABOOGLA BOOGLA BOOO! I'm KaRAYZee! NUTSO! Out of this DIE MENTION peoples! I don't like HAMBUGGAS what ain't got CHEESE ON 'em! They call me IN-SANE!

Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar that ruled

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)

but "destroy macaroni & cheese," I mean come on, man, that's the most Taliban thing I've ever heard

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

call his superiors!

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

he has superiors?

Matt (Matt), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

god, i'd suppose

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

well, if you're going to go getting religious....

Matt (Matt), Friday, 13 June 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

all that Thai shit with peanuts all over it

My sister who spent a semester in Thailand informed me an hour ago that very little real Thai food has peanut in/on it

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 June 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey!

I like macaroni and cheese! (The boxed stuff, mind you.) I like the occasional cheeseless burger! I like nacho cheese sauce! Hey!

During the once a month time when I will feel the need for a burger, I will absolutely shy away from a cheeseburger. Even a mushroom cheeseburger, though it has my beloved mushrooms, is out of the question (unless the place I go to can make a regular mushroom burger). I just don't like cheese near any sort of meat. In fact, I don't care for cheese in the first place.

My favorite "international cuisine" is Japanese. Sushi = food of the gods. Tempura = yum. Miso soup = OMG. Japanese chocolate thingys = very, very nice. (I'm thinking specifically about Pocky, here.) Close runner-ups include Mexican, Chinese, and Indian -- yes, the three most popular "international" food types around these parts. I told someone in some chat somewhere that I live near no less than three Indian restaurants. I believe I live near the same amount of Thai restaurants, so I really should give Thai food a go.

Oh yeah, but bravo for including tapas in there. *wink* Though you did slay another one of my favorite foods, i.e. "Spanish" (really Mexican) rice. I could eat a bowl of that and good homemade beans for dinner (and have, in fact).

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 13 June 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Dee is totally gross and not going to be my girlfriend ever

Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 June 2003 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris needs a PBS show called Eating LA or something. The man loves his grub.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 13 June 2003 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I demand to be a freelance consultant on this show. I will happily be 'Anonymous Long-Haired Guy in Restaurant' sampling dishes every episode.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Okonomiyake

OK, I was just introduced to that last week and its the craziest shit ever. My friend was like, "so... do you want to try this? it's a giant thick pancake filled with scallions or something, slathered in mayonnaise & BBQ sauce, and topped with pork, octopus, and bonito flakes..."

It was DELICIOUS. New Yorkers, they got it at that Taisho Yakitori on St.Marks and that little tiny Japanese place on 9th street between 3rd & 2nd - that also serves octopus balls.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

This sounds like an absolute must FAP wise.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

YES YES YES

I must say that any good Japanese restaurant that serves Okonomiyake is probably one of the best bets EVER for hangover food

Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The one on 9th street is better though.. and you won't leave the joint stankin' like chicken-gizzard-sticks.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

How many balls do you get from an octopus?

And Wolfgang Puck's frozen mac & cheese is the only non-homemade kind worth eating, but I never see it in the stores anymore.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Okonomiyake is cabbage man. and yes it is from god's own scullery

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris needs a PBS show called Eating LA or something. The man loves his grub.

Eating LA this fall on KCET...

(cue Spacemen 3's "Big City")

Rapid fire cuts of me driving back and forth and eating at these LA essentials...


  • The Hickoryburger at the Apple Pan

  • Cuban chicken at Versailles

  • The pork pump at Lake Spring in Alhambra

  • Manchego cheese and serrano ham sandwich at Cafe Atlantic

  • Homemade espresso ice cream at Fosselman's

  • The proscutto sandwich at Angelo's Deli in Long Beach

  • Nam Ko Tod at Renu Nakorn in Norwalk

  • Drinking a Blood And Sand at Tiki Ti ("TORO!")

  • BBQ Eel at Soot Bull Jeep in Koreatown

  • Corned beef hash and eggs at Nick's

  • Sushi at Komasa

  • Super traditional red sauce Italian pasta at Casa Bianca in Eagle Rock

  • Beef french dip sandwich, potato salad, apple pie, and coffee at Phillippes

  • Lamb kabob at Moon Mart in Glendale

  • Jamblaya and buttermilk pie at Les Sisters in Chatsworth

  • Goulash at Hortobagy's

  • Carne asada tacos at King Taco in Elysian Park

  • Plov at Uzbekistan

  • Rosemary olive oil bread at La Brea Bakery

  • Finishing off with a traditional martini at Musso And Frank's

"Tonight on Eating LA, we go in search of the perfect tamale. First stop, the corner of Santa Monica and Vermont - but there may be more... Hey look - fresh chorizo!"

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I was just introduced to that last week and its the craziest shit ever. My friend was like, "so... do you want to try this? it's a giant thick pancake filled with scallions or something, slathered in mayonnaise & BBQ sauce, and topped with pork, octopus, and bonito flakes..."

Jumpin' Cthulhu man! Can I just say that this is massively U & K?!

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.links.net/daze/01/10/pix/okonomiyaki.sm.jpg

Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

http://db1.pref.hiroshima.jp/tokyo/rink/okonomiyaki.jpg

Millar (Millar), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris, I need to check these places out!

Also, I've been waiting patiently, wondering when it would arrive; and now I can reveal that the apocalypse is nigh.

Ranch-BBQ sauce is a reality.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Spencer -- based on the ones that Chris has introduced to me, yes, yes you do.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

There's probably a couple dozen more that I'm missing, but the ones listed there are pretty much U & K when factoring in yumminess, expense (or lack thereof), eccentricity, variety, and that mysterious restaurant X factor.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Friday, 13 June 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, I need little to no encouragement to drag people off to weird food in LA.... Just start picking days and I'm there.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 14 June 2003 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Adding one more restaurant to the LA Food Crawl...

Brodard's in Garden Grove. Absolutely, positively the best Vietnamese place in an area crawling with outstanding Vietnamese food. Two standout dishes: duck salad and a fantastic fried yam/shrimp combo.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Monday, 16 June 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: Guacamole, age-tofu (that's ah-gay-toe-foo), gumbo, udon tempura, burritos of all sorts, those great little Indian lamb meatballs, chicken tandoori masalla, latkes, sushi&sashimi, miso soup

Destroy: paella, lasagna, canneloni, steak tartar, japanese-style fried eggs (they had red fucking yolks, for chrissakes), egg rolls, spring rolls, nime chow, shepherd's pie, kielbasa (how can anyone eat this shit? seriously. worst sausage EVER.)

Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: Indian food w/ Mango, Curries, Samosas

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh, I forgot:

Search: Bruschetta, antipasto, blackened seared ahi

Destroy: French bread

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

International House Of Pancakes?

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I've just decided - I am going to move to L.A. and live out of my car, and Chris can take me on the Food Crawl whenever he likes. And I'll pay until my credit card maxes out.

Can anyone see the downside to this plan?

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Guys, you're all breaking my heart (destroy curry, spring rolls? *sniff*)

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

destroy: natto

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom - I'm willing to accept your distaste of Chinese food and french bread - but I still think you've been basing it on crap food. Fly out to LA for the Food Crawl...

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Somebody (might as well be me) had better bring up falafel, only one of the greatest foods ever to grace the palate of mankind. And then don't even get me started on baklava and tabouli...

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

We were just wistfully discussing bhabaghanoush (sp?) in my office. Mmmmmmm.

NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

and a seltzer.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Seconding and thirding natto destruction.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

mmm... moldy beans that smell like crusty gym socks:

http://www.trekjapan.com/japan/images/photos/adam/food/natto.jpg

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

destroy:

thousand year old egg

an excellent way to test your gag reflex... here's what google says:

In Chinese cuisine, what's a thousand-year-old egg? 
Rod
Dublin, California


Dear Rod:
Preserved duck eggs are a traditional Chinese delicacy, and although known as "1000-year-old eggs" they are rarely more than 100 days old. According to radio-show host Chef Meng, it's a common dish, sometimes known as pidan, that is made by coating duck or chicken eggs in a clay-like plaster of red earth, garden lime, salt, wood ash, and tea. To prevent the eggs from sticking, and for an attractive presentation, the chef advises layering and wrapping individual eggs in rice husks and packing them into an airtight container.
The preserved duck egg recipe provided by RecipeSource (formerly known as SOAR: The Searchable Online Archive of Recipes) advises you to "bury" the eggs in a large crock that's been layered and lined with garden soil, and then store in a cool dry place for 3-4 months. Ingredients include a blend of equal parts of ash from charcoal, pine wood, and fireplace, along with salt and strong black tea. Chef Meng frankly dispels the misconception that horse urine is used to aid the fermentation process. Instead he offers two popular recipes -- pidan with tofu and pidan with lean ground pork.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

try this:

Preserved duck eggs are a traditional Chinese delicacy, and although known as "1000-year-old eggs" they are rarely more than 100 days old. According to radio-show host Chef Meng, it's a common dish, sometimes known as pidan, that is made by coating duck or chicken eggs in a clay-like plaster of red earth, garden lime, salt, wood ash, and tea. To prevent the eggs from sticking, and for an attractive presentation, the chef advises layering and wrapping individual eggs in rice husks and packing them into an airtight container. The preserved duck egg recipe provided by RecipeSource (formerly known as SOAR: The Searchable Online Archive of Recipes) advises you to "bury" the eggs in a large crock that's been layered and lined with garden soil, and then store in a cool dry place for 3-4 months. Ingredients include a blend of equal parts of ash from charcoal, pine wood, and fireplace, along with salt and strong black tea. Chef Meng frankly dispels the misconception that horse urine is used to aid the fermentation process. Instead he offers two popular recipes -- pidan with tofu and pidan with lean ground pork.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Just noticed that Moroccan food hasn't been mentioned yet, so allow me to plug one of the greatest dishes ever: Bistilla (a.k.a. B'stila) is the greatest - but I'd say that about anything that combines meat, powdered sugar, flakey filo dough, and almonds.

Best place in LA for it: Koutoubia on Westwood Blvd. It's an "event" restaurant, so there's the obligatory belly dancing sideshow and all that - but the food is pretty excellent. The one thing that it doesn't have (which I'm totally obsessed over after seeing the Bourdain Morocco episode) is the bread in the sand.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

there are a lot of ppl who find the combination of powdered sugar and meat unappealing. a friend of mine can't have it 'coz alway reminded of that george carlin skit "is it meat, is it cake - it's meat cake"

aren't pretty much all moroccan (sitdown) restaurants "event" restaurants?

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

aren't pretty much all moroccan (sitdown) restaurants "event" restaurants?

Most of them are, but there are a couple of exceptions. There used to be this great little place on Fairfax called Shula And Ester's that had some great Yemenite/Moroccan dishes on the menu but I don't know if it's still there.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I am currently eating a plate of kimchi with a side of jalapeno feta cheese for a snack. Does this belong on another thread?

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

If I don't make mac and cheese tonight, then Millar will win!

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

search:
http://www.cottonelle.com/toiletpaper/images/dryAloeE.jpg

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Destroy:
http://www.cottonelle.com/toiletpaper/images/dryAloeE.jpg

(I'm allergic to aloe - break-out in subdermal hives.)

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

search: lotus root soup with spare ribs & peanuts; congee with salted meat and preserved egg; DIM SUM (in particular, cheung fun with fried dough and char siu pastry); hainanese chicken rice; red bean ice cream; japanese snacks (those ickle fried dough balls, biscuity koalas filled with hazelnut chocolate, fried seaweed, etc). yumyum

Lid, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...
I can't find the thread where a bunch of ilx0rs banged on about PHO being the best thing ever, but I OBJECT! I had viet-food for the first time on Saturday and was oh so excited at the range of stuff on the menu, but eventually thought - oh, ilxors say pho is so good, I will go for that instead of the sizzlin' goat. Mistake!

I mean it was nice and everything but it was basically wagamama ramen, nothing more nothing less - I had the idea it was going to be quite hot and spicy but nay.

Next time I will eat the little billy goat.

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds like you had poor pho.

Ed (dali), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

What SHOULD a pho taste like, if it's something more special than yr general wagamama soop?

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

augh, no! wagama soup is an abomination. you must have had terrible pho. the stock is usually beef-based, boiled with things like star anise and cinnamon and ginger so it's got an amazing rich flavo(u)r. it's not very hot on it's own, so you can add things after it's served. you should get chopped chilis, mint, coriander, asian basil, bean sprouts, and lime wedges on the side, and people often add sriracha or hoisin sauce.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

I think I see where I may have gone wrong - they had duck pho, so I had that as I had been hankering after duck for a while. Wikipedia says pho is pretty much based on beef, so perhaps it was so different because I went the quacky route... certainly didn't get anything on the side! I suspect they considered me Ignorant, especially after I got confused about what was actually a starter and what was a main dish... doiii.

Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

Me and my four housemates have been taking it in turns to cook a meal from a randomly selected country for the past seven Thursdays, while one of the non-chefs makes a selection of music to listen to from that country and another prepares a quiz on it. It's been really fun.

So far we have had: Algeria, Mali, Belarus, The Virgin Islands, Kuwait, Sudan and Armenia. Next week I'm doing Zambia.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

What do they eat there?

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

A recipe for curried gazelle has intrigued me. I don't know where I can source gazelle though. Maybe I should just get some venison and tell everyone it's gazelle.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

how about impala or springbok

http://www.gamstonwoodfarm.com/exoticmeat.html

e.g. delete via naivete (ledge), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

Interesting, might pop along to their stall tomorrow.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago)


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