It's just occurred to me that with the exception of Oasis' Be Here Now, and possibly the Phantom Menace, I can't remember such hype and collective weight of expectation surrounding any release for years. Obviously both of those were massive disappointments even to die-hard fans... so you never know.
Will anyone admit to be looking forward to it? Will anyone be buying it on the first day? Do you think it'll be any cop?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)
This is a great thread title - thumbs up Matt!
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)
I've convinved myself that these books are basically good things, but there is too much true stuff in the world for me to waste my time reading fiction.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)
Chris and I were talking about the harry potter phenomenon the other day, and I think the books appeal because, as Tom says, they're a quick read, you can skim them, without missing anything, and things do actualy happen in them. It's like a halfway house between grown up literature and comics (minus pictures, obv), it's easy reading. And sometimes I just want to be a lazy reader.
I do think the hype's a bit wierd though, I don't think it will live up to it, but it'll do the job I need it for.
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― james (james), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)
oh that was you on I Love 1999 was it? nice one ;)
The Phantom Menace = good kids film despite bogus intention to teach kids about intergalactic politics and often lame script (tho no worse than episodes 4-6 in reality)
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)
Another connection between these three pinnacles of pre-hype popcult: I've never heard/seen/read them* nor am I ever likely to. Perhaps I should feel slightly sad about this. (OK, I probably heard a 1997 Oasis single or two/saw an EP1 trailer).
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)
It's like a halfway house between grown up literature and comics
!!! Fighting words around here, Vicky! Martin Skidmore to thread!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)
I can't remember introspection in the second book, but that's probably because I read them so fast I just take in the plot.
I've only seen the first film, and I thought it was crap.
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)
That's exactly what they are! Huge wizard-feasts at the end of each book = gigantic picnics with lashings and lashings of ginger beer hurrah!
Except the fourth one, which has death and dismemberment and fascistic overtones.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)
more book reviews by Sour Skittles later.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Hagrid's going to be a ghost. Ooo, ooo.
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.erowid.org/library/books/images/be_here_now.gif
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway - I am doubting (sadly) that this fifth will live up to all of the hype - but there's a little part of me that's holding-out hope that my suspicions are wrong and that it will be marvelous.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― C J (C J), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Surely they'll be far too busy defending the world from evil wizards to worry about spots and wanking?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)
CJ, borders in oxford will be staying open until midnight for it, if you're that desparate, but please be nice to the staff :)
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Now that book might live up to the hype!
― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)
I would have it so that every time HP was mentioned ANYWHERE, the mentioner had to recommend another, less feted children's book . And the listener had to read it.
― Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)
so who will mark C be bug for a copy?
''I'm getting two copies. One for me and one for one of my students from last year. He loves them too and his family is very poor. They just moved into my neighborhood recently so I'm going to take him the book for some summer reading. yay.''
that's really kewl DDG.
''Another connection between these three pinnacles of pre-hype popcult: I've never heard/seen/read them* nor am I ever likely to. Perhaps I should feel slightly sad about this.''
nor am I and I'm v happy abt this.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Lemony Snicket books, on the other hand, take about five minutes. (See what I did there, Marks?)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)
And, in tribute to Mark C - I think that children should read The Trumpet of the Swan. Though Lemony Snickett's stuff is awfully addicting.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Thursday, 19 June 2003 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 19 June 2003 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 June 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)
(See also phoneix - D's pet bird ....)
I am so right.
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)
Hype is silly. Read Why The Whales Came by Michael Morpurgo.
― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)
(Actual answer - start of May. I didnt announce it but I admitted it as soon as anyone asked.)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Actually there's a good one on the Dark is Rising thread.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)
(also I am big-upping it because I didn't spot it)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)
2. I don't understand your comments about the dialogue (this mainly to Mark C)
3. I too want to know what my magic powers are
4. Mike: you could easily have been subjected to Be Here Now by me over the years - possibly you should consider it a lucky escape. (I actually listened to it upon getting back several sheets to the wind on Tues night!)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― piscesboy, Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Maybe in the afterlife he realizes how awful beards look.
― Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― adam (adam), Thursday, 19 June 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― NicoleToo, Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't see how she could off Draco Malfoy, as ucky as he is (in the books and the movies) - I think that the relationship between he and Harry is supposed to be mirroring that between Harry's father and Snape - and if Draco is offed now, then that whole struture would be lost.
But, then again, I've been known to be totaly off base before. (Only 28 or so hours more to go!)
Oh - has anyone gone and looked at the excerpts from that newspaper? I'm avoiding it, in disgust, but admit that I am tempted, too.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Thursday, 19 June 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)
From a BBC comments section on the book, this gem of doggerel:
Potter, Potter everywhere! It's driving me to drink. Potter, Potter everywhere! And naught to make kids think. Tim Morris, UK
Oh, my sides.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)
and i bet it took him an hour.
― piscesboy, Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― C J (C J), Saturday, 21 June 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)
In the Seventies, there were a few children's libraries that required the borrower to check out one (or even two) other books for evey Judy Blume book checked out.
― Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Saturday, 21 June 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Remember people, the George Lucas who wrote Star Wars was young, hungry, and smart, and who firstdrafted the screenplay for the Empire Strikes Back?Leigh Brackett. Leigh FUCKING Brackett. Sure, shemay have written some duds (like Rio Lobo) but herpulp fiction is cynically gripping, and herRaymond Chandler films (The Big Sleep, The Long Goodbye) were fucking beautiful.
― squirl plise, Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 22 June 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)
I've seen HP slash that pairs Harry and Draco in love/hate sex.
― j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 22 June 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 22 June 2003 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 22 June 2003 05:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 22 June 2003 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 22 June 2003 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 22 June 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)
It was excellent, by the way - lived-up to and in places actually exceeded my expectations. Now I am jonesing for the Two Towers DVD release.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 23 June 2003 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)
p.s. the trailer for the fourth movie is out.
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)
I hope the new book is good (I still liked Order of the Phoenix even if it didn't quite work.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)
Seriously, the professor Umbridge sub-plot (absolutely evil teacher/headmistress with shades of fascism/torture) made me recall high school in some pretty negative ways. i think it's things like that which make the books so attractive to kids--they can very readily identify with the protagonists' struggle against the Professor's (often violent) control.
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 9 May 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
The wizard battle at the end of this movie completely owned.
― Adam Bruneau, Friday, 4 September 2009 02:34 (sixteen years ago)
The sound editing during said battle was pheonomenal.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 4 September 2009 05:39 (sixteen years ago)
phenomenal