Wimbledon 2003

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Oh, I know it's only day two of qualifying, but the draw's been made so we're officially off and running in an amateur punditry sense.

Tim(id)* gets a 19-place boost from the seeding committee (probably fair enough), but, apart from Corretja (surely only a threat if the courts are playing unnaturally slow), he's also landed a spot in the easiest quarter. Hmmm. It looks like Grosjean again in the QF, but Seb's got a brutal section to deal with: Arthurs, Blake, Enqvist, Rosset, Sargsian, Ferrero.

(* - perhaps the BBC shouldn't have chosen intimidation and mental strength as the theme for their trailers, sappy monotone Timmy is about as menacing as Annabel Croft at her most apologetic).

Top matches in men's R1: Bandy vs former semi-finalist Voltchkov (how far can one man fall in the rankings in one afternoon?), Zabaleta vs Scud. Looming in R2: Llandudno vs Kreakij. I've said it before, but Hewitt is Jim Courier de nos jours. People are starting to work out how to play him, and as soon as his intensity dims, he'll be #45 in the world and a reserve in the Aussie Davis Cup team. Might not happen for another year, but it will happen.

Top matches in women's R1: Capriati vs Casanova, Coetzer vs Mad Dally, Chandra R vs former French champ Iva Majoli.

Come on, Roger!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't checked out the draw yet. Totally agree with you about Hewitt, though; his number is coming up QUICKLY.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Hewitt is Jim Courier de nos jours

Ouch, indeed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Henman's v/o on the trailer *supposed* to be ominously dull and ineffectual?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Henman's v/o on the trailer *supposed* to be ominously dull and ineffectual?

Perhaps, it is. He should be saying something like, "Ooh, you're going to have a stretch a bit to reach my volleys" or "My first serve percentage has a tendency to rise as matches go on, so fear that" or "You have literally no idea how cross I can get when my backhand isn't working. Grrr."

Pathetic. He'll probably win it now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm wondering if anyone will even bother to pretend that Timmy has a chance of winning this year... still, I'm sure they will, and I'm sure he'll crash out in the semis again as always

Wimbledon 2001 - best Wimbledon ever?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The world #29 reaching the semis of a grand slam = quite an achievement, but, yes, it would just seem like another crushing failure. That's the thing about Timbo - caught between expectation (a Brit's gonna win Wimbledon!) and reality (he's as good as Tim Mayotte or Cedric Pioline at their best), or between the former expectation and the current, prevailing expectation (he'll fall at the penultimate hurdle again, what a loser!).

He hasn't failed to realise his potential, I think he's partially exceeded it. Being the best British-born player in a generation still doesn't make him a world-beater. 1998 was his best shot: beating reigning GS champs Korda and Rafter en route to a genuinely competitive match with Sampras in supreme form.

2001 was great, yes - you can't really beat it when the last three men's matches all go to the wire. 1992, too, was pretty extraordinary.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Best thread ever!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate Timmeh and want to see him out before the quarters.

Also Anna Kournikova is out - ALREADY - still it'll save the woman her usual embarrassment of being trounced by a Spanish 15-year-old in the first round

j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Tim may have the personality of a grapefruit and his feeble post-point-winning fist-pump may make you want to chin him, but ..yeah, he really is way too maligned for what really is over rather than under achievement. Sure, he hasn't won it, but not a lot of folks get to our semis and lose out to the eventual winner - each time a man playing at his peak - every time. The Brit tabloids have got a lot to answer for when they slam him. I grew up in the era when first John Lloyd and then Jeremy Bates getting to the third round and maybe beating a seed on the way (cf Bates-Chang in 90whatever) was a thing to shout about.

darren (darren), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

our semis - um, make that FOUR semis. I may be a Brit but I don't feel THAT strongly about Wimbledon !

darren (darren), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

And hey - what about Elena Baltacha and Anne Keown-thapong, eh ? Anyone think the Brit chicks have any chance of ever making it ? Footydaughter has got Dokic hasn't she ? Poor lass. Then again she's been riddled with every ailment under the sun since the Coetzer match last year. She wouldn't be out of place in the Spurs treatment room !

darren (darren), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Elena, she has a certain grit on court; I can only hope her struggle through illness has given her a iron-clad core, so we have none of the self-deprecating mimsy she displayed before losing to Victoria Wine last year. Hopefully her dad has been showing her videos of his crunching tackles on Socrates and Falcao to gee her up.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I only watch tennis once a year, has Sampras retired then?

Actually, I can't remember whether or not he played last year, but hey, there was a World Cup on.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I am loving this thread, but am having a certain amount of trouble with Steady Mike's nicknames. Victoria Wine? Virginia Wade maybe? Is there a glossary?

I may be going to Wimbledon next Tuesday, and will Report Back if I do.

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Sampras hasn't formally retired, but after winning the US Open last year (to everyone's astonishment), I don't think he's played a competitive match. He's done enough, I guess: 14 grand slams. He lost to George Bastl in R2 last year at Wimbledon.

Mark C: explaining them takes the fun out of it, but Victoria Wine = Liquorsaver = Likhvotseva. Lady P and I are also planning a post-5pm grounds visit, poss next Thursday.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

G'day again from the twice-yearly tennis watcher! In the world of tennis, whenever there is somethin' goin' on, you do know what it is, don't you Mister Jones (a Dylan reference)? Looking forward to trading commentary and doing the Duelling Nicknames thread all over again over the next couple of weeks.

Word from the Anti-Podes is that the Leyt who Greyts can look forward to spending at least the second half of week two sightseeing and working on his golf this time round, although there is still a good chance his slightly better-looking half won't be available to caddy for him.

Fred Nerk, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always fancied going to the qualifying tournament in Roehampton - I think it's free to get in and you're sure to see some fantastic tennis from genuinely desperate players.

Like Gorka Fraile, a 25-year-old Spaniard, whose career prize money amounts to $77k and who has an all-time win/loss record on the main tour of 1/1 (he went out in R1), or American Jack Brasington, who didn't turn pro until he was 24 and surely has some other form of income even now, or veteran Big Dick Norman, the six foot eight Belgian who wasted 12 break points vs Hewitt in the final set at Queen's last week, destined forever to be hovering on the fringe of the big party with a world ranking of 111. Or Marie-Eve Pelletier, a 13-11 deciding set loser in the opening round of the women's event, who'll be kicking herself all the way back to Quebec. Severine Beltrame, Aniko Kapros, Gisela Dulko... where will they be next week?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd be up for going to qualifying this Friday, Mike. Is it still on? I am very local, too, we could walk there from my house with Pimms.

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

That sounds marvellous, Mark, but I'm just too flaming busy...

I think you should take your racket just in case.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Hee, just like I take my boots when I go to see AFC Wimbledon?

Shame though. Perhaps next year?

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"They mean to win Wimbledon"

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps instead, Mike, we could go to the "Wimbledon" film when it comes out and I can count the number of times you beat your forehead at the factual innacuracies...

Mark C (Mark C), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

What about the forthcoming TARANTINO TRILOGY about THE PREMIERSHIP???

the pinefox, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps instead, Mike, we could go to the "Wimbledon" film when it comes out and I can count the number of times you beat your forehead at the factual innacuracies...

Same cinematographer as Se7en and Delicatessen, so he should capture the incessant rain and gloom just right. Is Kirsten Dunst playing in it, or just the love (DO YOU SEE) interest?

It can't possibly be as good as Players from 1979, with Ali McGraw, the late Dean Paul Martin and Steven Guttenberg. Guillermo Vilas wins the title in that one (spoiler, sorry).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

They showed 'The Official Wimbledon 2002 Film' the other afternoon. Unfortunately I was too flaming busy, but I bet it was good if you like 'slower motion'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 19 June 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the official films; a DVD of the 1988 and 1992 tournaments would be, like, the best thing evah, natch.

My players of the day (or, perhaps, yesterday) are:

Todd Larkham - 29-year-old Aussie whose career earnings are no more than mine would be in this job if I stuck at it for another 9 years, a ranking best of #168 for singles *and* doubles, but who has scrapped and scrambled his way into the main draw by way of a 5-set win over Harel Levy in Roehampton... and now faces James Blake.

Talking of On The Buses, Jim's unsister Maureen Blake, the Canadian veteran, has also edged a final round qualifier for a spot in the Merton Mains. She gave Venus a torrid time last year; surely worth another run to the last 32, where Chandra Rubin will clip her ticket.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 20 June 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh-heh.

"Ticket".

the pinefox, Friday, 20 June 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok, eve of event predictions.

Men's QF:

Bjorkman-Ancic
Federer-Schalken
Henman-Blake
Arazi-Agassi

Greg R beats Roddick in their 2nd round clash (50 aces between them and a new world record serve), but falls to Ancic in the last 16. Lleyton loses to Bjorkman from two sets up in R4. Malisse-Draper in R3 is the longest men's match: Xavier wins it 15-13 in the 5th, then flops miserably vs Andre in the next round.

Women's QF:

S Williams-Myskina
Henin-Kuznetsova
Davenport-V Williams
Rubin-Sugiyama

Kim C has a nightmare v Pistolesi in R3 and slumps out; Venus given hellacious scare by Indonesia's teenage sensation Widjaja in same round but survives.

Can't say who'll win either event, though.

In the real world, you may or may not be aware that Kreaky, TonyLeMauresmo and Alex Corretjaja have pulled out. It's a bit of a shame.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 June 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn the championships starting tomorrow, the start of which will probably be the busiest fortnight of my life

I'll be lucky if I get the chance to say "doesn't she look mannish?" at Pam Shriver during the highlights programme

j0e (j0e), Sunday, 22 June 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

damn my naggy syntax too. tomorrow heralds the start of possibly my busiest fortnight ever

j0e (j0e), Sunday, 22 June 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

is what I meant to ssay

j0e (j0e), Sunday, 22 June 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't worry, j0e, I confused Mo Blake with Mo Drake above and made such a fool of myself the thread plummeted off the New Answers page for 24 hours.

I find myself with stacks of annual leave owed to me, but little opportunity to take much of it for Wimbledon-watching due to everyone in our department having the same idea. I've left it a bit late to strategically chum up to the afternoon receptionist downstairs in an effort to steer her away from her daytime soaps, allowing us the occasional sneaky peak at the odd tie-breaker or two.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I've taken the day off and I've got both tellies on, so you can stick your interactive red button up your arse.

The Jones Kiss of Death is about to strike on court six: projected quarter-finalist Mario Ancic already two sets down to somebody called Nadal. Bugger. Roddick-Sanguinetti is a very watchable affair, A-Rod (what *does* that mean, btw?) playing with some flair to season the powerstrokes, Davide S a strikingly handsome greying chap, with more fire in his veins than his name suggests. The Roddick speedometer has touched 141mph so far today.

The Croat giant (he's 6'10"!) facing the Defending Ball of Hate seems to have got his act together - he conceded his serve three times in the opening set, on each occasion with a double fault. The Centre Court crowd looked away and shuffled its feet.

Ooh, ooh, Lleland a mini-break down in the 2nd t/b...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Llanrwst drops the second set to Jeff Goldblum *and* goes a break down in the 3rd... they're calling this the Little and Large Show - in a decaying semi in Sale, a middle-aged man in a Man City top is swearing into his mobile, "Syd? Syd? Did you hear what they just friggin' said?"

Lleylo's vein is *this* far out of his forehead now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

And a proper break down in the 3rd! We can but hope...

I'm taking a day off too (along with all the other days off unemployment affords me) and I'm very much enjoying it. When I lived with my parents we would be besieged by thousands of tennis tourists (and most of them did seem to be foreign) for a fortnight a year - they live just next to Southfields station. I kind of miss the bustle and the feeling of smugness that I actually *lived* there and had a perfectly good drive to park in, hahaha. I was less pleased when I was going out of an evening and had to queue behind 2,000 to get the tube.

Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

A-Rod would be a reference to a basball player, MJ, his name is [something beginning with A] Rodriguez (i think). also i think he is a fast thrower, someone who knows about baseball to thread pls...

there was an article in the observer yesterday where b*ris b*cker said he thought federer might win, haha, he's your best mate jonesy :)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

My loathing for BB has softened into a mild repulsion now he's stopped playing the pro tour, but he managed to utterly ruin Queen's as a spectacle by lumbering onto court on the last day to beat Edberg in a one-set exhibition. Edberg double-faulted on match point. Plus ca change.

As for me as Mr Predicto, I'm typing this from inside the paper bag I got into last year, and the imminent demise of Ancic means I have little chance of immediate escape.

Is Hewitt going out here or WOT?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

K-BLIMEY, Karlovic breaks Hewitt and is about to serve for the match!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

DOWN WITH HEWITT!!!!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

SUCK IT YOU (mildly) RACIST BASTARD!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Incredible - only the second time the defending men's champion has fallen at the first hurdle (other: Carlos Santana, undone by a particularly tricky solo in '67). Karlovic playing serve-volley as well as anyone currently in the men's game. Brings back warm memories of Peter Doohan flooring Copperhead in '87.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Karlovic was a black-hole out there. Amazing.

Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes, Dan's ultimate tennis game -- Tardis Tennis.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

ARGH why does a concept so cool play so horrifically????!?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 23 June 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The Jones Kiss of Death is about to strike on court six: projected quarter-finalist Mario Ancic already two sets
down to somebody called Nadal.

hey, mr jones, that is rafael nadal, a 16 year old from mallorca (nephew of miguel angel nadal, infamous football player from fc barcelona). don't miss this kid, he'll be up there soon.

and, hmm, the spanish tennis player from the 70's is manolo santana.
carlos santana is someone else ;-)

joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you mean you didn't win a point, Dan? And how good does the Grainer/Derbyshire theme sound looped like that?

No adverse reaction from Mrs Lleyla - Kimsters followed the fallen champ on court and won 6-0 6-0 in fourteen seconds. Big Karlovic was just interviewed on the Beeb - the guy has a serious stammer but coped admirably with the horror of the Inverdale Q&A. I think I've watched a few too many episodes of Open All Hours recently - I needed to be jolted out of my comedy speech defect mindset.

Unluckiest of the day: Jon van Lottum, playing brilliantly for a set and a bit vs Kuerten on Centre, gets injured, retires, weeps in his chair at the calamity of it all.

Greg R through in three tight sets, looking good for a battle royale with Roddick on Wednesday. Easy for Venus, bit of a struggle for Lindsay.

(Joan: I know Manolo... "Grass is for the cows", etc)

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, schadenfreude.

I'll be the provincial Americain here and say I expect big things from Roddick and (ok, not really) Dent.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 23 June 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You do know Dent's already out, don't you?

Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 23 June 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

burn

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Pat the Prat Smith is the unofficial chairman and spokesperson of the Armchair Sportsman's Guild. He was out having a smoke the day they did Writing In Full Sentences at journo school. He was a State squad fast bowler for five years in the mid 70s without ever cracking it for a State game, so he has all the chips on the shoulder associated with nearly making it. And they're his good points.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 5 July 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

now tell me the BAAAAAAAAD

*holds breath*

Chris Radford (Chris Radford), Saturday, 5 July 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a classic hater. He brandishes his contempt for Hewitt, Greg Norman, Shane Warne, Plugger, Diesel Williams, various others (and I don't admire all of those) like a cheap thug with a piece of 4x2. He reminds me of the bores you get on forums like this (ILX has mainly avoided this breed so far, poss because it's so big and there are so many regulars) who just keep flogging the same dead horses every time they're on.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Saturday, 5 July 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

As a result of Poo's semi-final victory he will, in 48 hours time, have appeared in twice as many GS finals as Pat Cash.

You've really got in it for Patsy ClimbIntoThePlayersBoxAndHugYourDad, haven't you?

PC reached the Aussie finals in '87 and '88 (Kooyong and Flinders [as was] Park, grass and Rebound Ace*), losing to Edberg and Wilander in five. Great matches they were too - in fact, I don't there's been an Aussie final to touch the Wilander match since. I think he also got as far as match point in a US Open semi vs Lendl in '84: up 6-5 40/30 in the 5th he hit a perfect fading volley only for old skullface to loop a gobsmacking topspin lob. Ivan the Lovable won the breaker.

(* - I do like the way the name of this surface combines a physical prerequisite with something you'd hope to achieve. I believe the track at Monza has been relaid with Griptyre Notcrash.)

I'd say something about the women's final but I was at Ikea while it was on.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 5 July 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I've been marvelling (in my private moments) at Roj's extraordinary feat in getting just about every hittable Roddick delivery back in play yesterday (quite aside from the whole magisterial display of fluid all-court tennis thing), but many, if not most, of those returns were floating, chest-high, as they crossed the net; I do have a horrid feeling that Philp is going to be flicking away a lot of easy first volleys tomorrow. Still, I expect a coach as canny as Lundgren has a Plan B for dealing with a big, blanketing net-rusher with limited mobility.

Also, MP seems to send down a whole lot more untouchables; Roddick's celebrated WR-equalling 149mph delivery at Queen's last month was straight into Agassi's hitting zone and came back fizzing. I still think Federer in four, but Scud has this whole IronMind thing going on which scares me. It could be an excruciating two and a half hours of fleeting break point opportunities earned by free-flowing genius obliterated by an ace machine and then horrid Swiss mental collapse in tie-breakers.

Nice to see Bjorkman/Woodbridge win the doubles again; Todd W's got a busy day tomorrow - a maximum possible three matches if it stays light till late and he and Kuznetsova reach the final.

Should I be alarmed by Sue Barker's claim that wheelchair tennis is Britain's fast-growing sport?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 5 July 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

its gonna be very interesting bcz MP has had the experience of losing a slam final. federer isn't as consistent and roddick only served four aces (that semi-final was basically lost when roddick did not make set point in that first set tie-break really).

the williams sisters => didn't watch first two sets, watched bits of the third but you it was just a bit dull from what i saw.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 5 July 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

'You've really got in it for Patsy ClimbIntoThePlayersBoxAndHugYourDad, haven't you?'

I remembered the Wilander game five minutes after posting (just hoped like hell it was a semi not a final) and the Edberg match when you mentioned it. So chalk up one unforced error to Nerk.

Yes, it's true that Pat Cash has to try less hard than most to get thoroughly up my nose. My Pat is your Boris.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 6 July 2003 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with Fred. He's too negative for my taste. And loves to praise people he's put some work in with (cf. the Phillipoussijssijssijs).

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 July 2003 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Pinefox makes a good point about the apparent gulf between the two halves of the Next Great Rivalry. But, then again, Lendl beat Becker the first four times they met and that ended up being very close (OK, Ivan was seven years older and already a #1) and Agassi was called one-dimensional early on, the unravelling of his game accounting for his first mini-slump between '89 and '91. Friday's semi was like the child prodigy failing the Oxford entrance exam - brilliant in his own way, but here was stuff he'd just never studied.

Cash may have been riding on that one Wimbledon his whole life, but, if you're only going to win one major, you may as well do it in some style. Beating Forget, Wilander, Connors and Lendl without dropping a set is some way to go. I well remember his wildcard QF loss to Leconte twelve months earlier - my first encounter with the phrase 'keyhole surgery'. I use it all the time now.

The Aussie media sounds appalling, btw. Thank goodness we've got chaps like Williams with his tripping on the needle-bliss celebration of Henman's second round win above.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 July 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger up a set and a double break. First set 7-6 after a Philp double-fault; MP's first-serve %age drops in set two and RF pounces - unbelievable passing shots, including a backhand drive-volley from the baseline, breaks twice to 15: 7-6 3-0.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 July 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah that first set was just wonderful. but if anyone can come back then its him as he has a bit of experience.

but so far federer is too good.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 July 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

71 minutes on court and Federer up two sets: 7-6 6-2. Hard to see what MP can do to change this, though Roj did chuck in a double-fault in that last game: his first since... well, at least Thursday.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 July 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

federer wins the third set tie break easily. the man has only lost one set in the whole tournament and he was just too brilliant.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 July 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

YES! Third set rose in intensity as it went on - the last two games were excellent, Philp saving break points, Federer holds with style and rattles through the breaker.

Pick of the commentary moments:

Andrew Castle: "Philippousis is very proud of his Greek heritage...but not of that volley."
(later, with a view of Federer's girlfriend): "She's warming up those dimples for a very big smile."

At times it was like having Robin Askwith and Leslie Philips in the box. "Purrrr, a pretty girl..."

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 July 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Navratilova/Paes are into the mixed final, so we could yet see some more squarkin' on Centre as Martina goes for that 20th title.

Talking of records, Woodbridge's doubles win was, I think, the 77th title of his career. McEnroe has 78 and Tom Okker 79, so Mac has suggested, once Woody wins another tournament, they team up and try to equal Okker's mark.

Talking of Tom Okker (I'm on fire here), he was a semi-finalist the last year the last three men's matches were decided in straight sets: 1978. It didn't feel like a let-down then either, Borg was just a class apart from Connors in the final. I watched much of that year's tournament on a black'n'white portable above a florist's on Poulton Road listening to John Denver LPs.

Talking of John Denver... no, I can't go on.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 July 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Congrats Rodge. Far too good on the day, and played some brilliant shots and made very few errors, in fact neither player did. Immediately post-match Phillip Oozes promised to Sue B, sounding almost as wooden as Arnie himself, 'I'll be back' and hopefully he will. He had a great tournament.

And, until Melb Park Jan 2004, it's goodnight from me, and it's goodnight from him....

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 6 July 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, Fred - aren't you going to stick around for the hardcourt season? What about Flushing Meadow? Is the time difference a killer with that one?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 6 July 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

What a player that Federer is. The next decade could be very dull.

Mark C (Mark C), Sunday, 6 July 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael - do they show any hard court action on the telly?

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 July 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

no they don't on the terrestrial TV cozen.

navratilova has just won her 20th title.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 July 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

But on Sky? (Sky Sports or Eurosport, Julio?)

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 July 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah its on sky sports.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 July 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Hurray for Martina!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked when the guy she was playing with said that watching Martina winning Wimbledon when he was about seven years old inspired him. She hit him :)

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 6 July 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm dismayed to see no one here has picked up on the aspect my mother has not stopped mentioning in three days: the ugly wimbledon towel redesign

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 6 July 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

What I saw of the WIlliams final was fucking fantastic, but then again I adore them and most of y'all don't.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 7 July 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

There were a handful of dazzling rallies in the Williams match, but also plenty of bizarro unforced errors and a complete lack of atmos. I thought the Venus injury would've added spice to things but only served to deflate the occasion even further. But then, I didn't see it live... I don't even have a favourite now; for two years it was Serena, now Venus has won me back to her side. They're far, far behind Clijsters, Henin, Rubin, etc in my affections. I tried to think of a male equivalent to their rivalry and was chilled by the idea of an all-Jensen GS final sometime in the early 90s. In another universe...

Hats off to Mardy Fish - who can now join the hallowed ranks of Florin Segarceanu, Todd Martin, Paul McNamee and, er...Paul McNamee as Men Who Took A Set Off An Untouchable Champion Elect.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 7 July 2003 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Crikey Mike I see what you mean:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1960000/images/_1960677_jensen150.jpg vs http://www.pjede.de/208/images/jocks/jensen.gif

Tim (Tim), Monday, 7 July 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

''What I saw of the WIlliams final was fucking fantastic, but then again I adore them and most of y'all don't.''

hey dan i love 'em too (they get me going on 'all levels') but they shouldn't play in finals against each other, that's all.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 7 July 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

TH captures in picture form and HTML skeelz the entire spirit of the thread. Yay!

It would be a shame not to make the 300-posts mark, so I'm going to keep this fella chugging along until it's a bit gnarly and rotten - a bit like those courgettes that went liquid next to the cooker last week. We thought something had died in the kitchen wall.

Did the men's event suffer slightly from Hypertension Hewitt's early dismissal? His potential QF with Roddick could've been a furious affair, Centre Court so much scorched scrubland afterwards. Instead we got one man who could serve his way out of a steel box heading inexorably towards a chap whose ranking should probably be in minus figures (like The Black Hit of Space). Goran vs Pete in '94, really.

And the 'return of grass-court tennis' line is laughable; the last serve-volley final was only two years ago. We always need a mix. I wonder if the Aussies basically developed the serve-volley game, or was it those post-war Americans: Kramer, Falkenberg, Seixas? I've never seen enough footage of them to make it out.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

(hint: role of towel redesign in decline of wimbledon blah blah) (adopt my mum as a pundit, she wd like that)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Mum s & Jonesy's Dad as the new Mac & Tracey!

I renounce my initials.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

We need to pursue the towel thing. I'm ashamed to say it escaped my attention (probably because, for two weeks, I was attempting to cram all my non-tennis life into the changeovers), so I know little of this atrocity.

Have they ramped up the absorbency? The sweat streaming off the peak of Roddick's cap was faintly nauseating. We're back to those courgettes again.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, I'll do my bit to help Mike push this thread to 300.

Re Flushing Meadow? Never grabbed me. Andrew Bolt or his British equivalent (from the Daily Mail?) would probably use it as an indicator of my ever less 'healthy' or 'helpful' or 'mature' attitude towards our shared Mecca (that's America, of course), and he would most likely not be far wrong. Something about the atmosphere of the US Open puts me off, I've never been able to put my finger on what it is. Mind you, put an Australian or two in the final and I'll watch.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I would just like to ask the contributors to this thread (the estemable Mr Jones in particular) if they feel that this kind of measured, informed and yet excited when need be coverage is exactly what sports coverage is lacking in this day and age.

And urge next years Wimbledon to be presented by Mr Michael Jones instead of birds nest bonce bird.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't think the towels too bad.

I cannot agree at all with Mike about Hewitt's exit being a bad thing. That exit was the thing which, along with one or two other things, made this one of the best Wimbledons I can remember. I was surprised at how reticent and becalmed Inverdale, Lloyd, Cash and even Becker ultimately were about the tournament - they have a professional interest in building it up, yet seemed less enthused about it all than I did.

Great things: Hewitt's exit; the fact that people still talk about Roddick-Rusedski as a great thing, though I didn't see it (it's nice somehow that Greg R's early defeats can be as momentous as Tim, um, H's late ones); Henman beating Nalbandian was probably an achievement, but what do I know; Agassi- MP was an epic though naturally I didn't like the score; Federer fulfilling the isolated outburst of passionate partisanship with which Mike began the whole thread - in such quiet, cautious fashion; the Oxbridge heights of Federer-Roddick; the sudden, superfluous backhand volley past MP from a yard inside the court; the notion that the right man may have won; the 'sentimentality' (Becker: interesting word) with which he received the trophy (Nipper and Barthelme to thread); McEnroe's at least occasional magnificence in the studio; Becker's gradual verbal redemption of past physical crimes; and the late late victory for my bovine wholegrain fruitjuice favourite Kijm C. (Someone post a picture of her!)

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Australia's greatest reactionary - andrew bolt.

Chris Radford (Chris Radford), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

superfluous backhand volley past MP from a yard inside the court

yes, very much so, a beautiful thing

chris (chris), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

my bovine wholegrain fruitjuice favourite Kijm C

I know that no one else will have been crass enough to notice that her nipples erected at the very moment of victory.

Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Even I didn't notice that. Perhaps I was too busy looking at something else.

It struck me that if this thread was ever to reach 300 posts, I really should have split my above post into c.15 separate instalments.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

One of the joys of women's tennis is that nipple erectage is pretty much an integral part of the ladies' game.

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.pixelzone.com/pixelzone/sportspix/image/wimbledon.jpg

Dada, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay! Stefan! One of my favourite all-time tennis memories. It finished on the Monday when Boris drove a mid-court backhand straight at Edberg only to find the tape in the way. SE's reaction was like being shot, followed by the elation of not actually being shot, all in one smooth flop to the floor.

I think this is 300.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

what Pete said

also, I'm sure Michael is heartily relieved by finally being vindicated re Federer after umpteen previous thread humiliations. Hats off to Mr Jones ... and er to Roger of course.

zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

via Federer express no doubt

(my favourite headline from yesterday)

chris (chris), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mix1029.com/morningshow/No-Doubt-Priceless.gif

Dada, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Dada is beginning to get a bit too persistent and quasi-random for my tastes.

Mark C (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so glad he won with such style; ten years ago I was in a similar position wrt Sampras - trying to convince casual tennis-watching chums that he was something special, rather than the serving machine they'd seen embroiled in a snoozy acefest vs Goran in the '92 semi.

I'd seen him play breathtaking stuff on clay and hardcourt and '93 Wimb would see the full flowering of his gifts. Yes, he won, but not very interestingly and thereafter won so often that those chums came to regard my punditry with open hostility - some changing their phone numbers to avoid me and, in one case, undergoing plastic surgery and joining the British Antarctic Survey.

This can't be allowed to happen again.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't help but still be in silent thrall to the boy Federer.

I miss this Wimbledon.

Great things: Stepanek's promise directly proportional to his receding hairline; the graceful turns Boris Becker spun in his grave as Hot-Rod and The Elephant rocketed into the last four; the return of grass tennis, wha?; Hantuchova's lips' quivering like a sea gently mussitating against the shore as Asagoe kept on proving too much too much; Henman generally; Kim Cloisters you'll never win a slam; I wish Federer was like a mercury tilt switch but I don't know what one of them is; the drive volley from just inside the baseline (oh! yes!); replay of the French semi-final cauldron of red raw seething hatred from a rained out London on sunny day in Glasgow; pints and points: outside with Henman and Grosjean; I love tennis.

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

you just know what Dan Maskell would have said to that backhand drive volley.....

chris (chris), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)


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