Marc Vivien-Foe RIP

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What a tragedy. RIP.

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Ananova.

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 June 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I absolutely could not believe this when I heard it. Horrific.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 June 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The Upton Park curse continues...

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 26 June 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Not to mention the curse of Man City - Deyna, Caton, Rocastle and now Foe. Daniel to thread ! Devastating news, really and truly.

― darren (darren), Thursday, 26 June 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

oh my God

― Neudonym, Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Utterly utterly choked.

― Daniel (dancity), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

huge shock. doubt they will cancel the Confederations Cup final but obviously expect several minutes silence prior to kick-off and numerous other forms of tribute.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Confederations Cup Final will go ahead" (Blatter).

― Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard that Harry Redknapp had been planning to make him an offer to take him back to the Premiership, and was hoping to discuss it with him after the match tonight.

Words fail me at times like this.

Thierry Henry dedicated his goal to him in the other semi-final.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 26 June 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

This a bit morbid, but I was looking through the condolences on City message board - blueview.co.uk - and scrolled back to the time it happened. The way the whole thing unfolds, the dawning that the fellow has died, is ghastly.

― Daniel (dancity), Thursday, 26 June 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

what was scary was watching highlights of the Cameroon v Colombia match. there Foe was, in the thick of the action, a towering presence, performing at his best. within an hour of that the man had passed away. incredible, and terrifyingly tragic.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 26 June 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

really sad. i was in work and my friend sent me a message telling me what he just saw. i couldn't believe it. only 28 years of age.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 26 June 2003 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, this really hit me. Really sad news :(

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 27 June 2003 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Horribly, horribly sad.

― Tag (Tag), Friday, 27 June 2003 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard this last & could not stop thinking about it. It is truly tragic, I could just not believe it could happen at 28.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 27 June 2003 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Tag: and there we were in the South Stand at Charlton, just a few months ago, seeing him poach a couple for City. Awful.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 27 June 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember it well Mike. I still had some hopes that he'd come back for us next season too.

― Tag (Tag), Friday, 27 June 2003 07:59 (twenty-two years ago)

im totally floored by this, i just cant understand it. i cant stop thinking about it:(

― gareth (gareth), Friday, 27 June 2003 08:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yes. really awful.. It was esp. horrific to learn about it at the same time as the French team (esp. some of his Lyon team-mates) just before the game last night

― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Friday, 27 June 2003 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)

This news really shocked me (more than I would have thought). Very sad news.

He was such a strong, dynamic player you'd never think something like this could happen.

― James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 27 June 2003 08:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Shortly after I heard this I was at the pc with my walkman on (talking to Cozen actually) listening away to a mix MD when, with awful pertinance and disquieting timing, a Morphine song came on. It just absolutely boggles my mind that something like this can happen, that a football game (which presumably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people were watching) can suddenly turn from entertainment and sport into an all-too-real tragedy, like some kind of awful unexpected snuff movie. We're used to seeing people dying on television but it's never real. There was an awful picture on the back of the Daily Express of them carrying him off which made me feel sick.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 27 June 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The picture on the front page of today's Daily Mirror is equally horrific. A great player taken down in his prime, and as everyone else here seems to feel, a death that's equally horrific because it reminds us of our own mortality as well.

Godspeed Marc

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 27 June 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I just looked on a news site to see if there was anymore news on why this may have happened & there were pictures of him lying on the floor & being stretchered off. If has made me feel completely sick & appalled. Why on earth do they need to show these pictures? It must have been terrible enough for those that saw it happen, but to then print the pictures seems to be the most awful thing. This truly is a terrible thing to have happened, I really can't get over it.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 27 June 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

As much as the picture disturbed me, and as much as the idea of seeing it makes me feel a bit sick, and as much as I know it's an awful thing to feel, part of me still wants to see the footage of the moment he fell and I don't know why. Maybe it's the 'own mortality' thing. Maybe it's to actually see what death is rather than hear about it second or third hand. Maybe it's out of some desire to understand how it could have happened. What can have taken place at that precise moment in time to have so suddenly and unexpectedly ended the life of a young, fit, strong man in the midst of an activity he loves?

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 27 June 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I know exactly what you mean Nick. There is this weird fascination with death. Like when you see a traffic accident, you want to see it all for some bizarre reason. I remember looking at a website called rotten.com & it was full of pictures of dead people, incl famous people. They had been involved in shootings, accidents etc etc & it was horrible but strangely compelling. It really affected me at the time, so now I am more cautious about what I look at, which is why i was quick shocked to see the pics about Marc Vivien-Foe.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 27 June 2003 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Aye, rotten.com is a bizarre phenomenon. I'm all for breaking taboos and demystifying death and so on; but even so I feel like I shouldn't be looking at it whenever I (very infequently) do. How the hell someone puts it together I don't know. But, I guess, some people get great job satisfaction being coroners and such.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 27 June 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I would be interested to know what type of person could compile such a site, as I had nitemares & all sorts. I cannot imagine becoming de-sensitized to something like that.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 27 June 2003 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

it has affected many people this whole incident and i am truely shocked but for the life of me i dont know why. In the news today is the story of the 5 year old who died at the home and the parents and somebody else have been detained but i was able to skip by that, i presume its because it is directly linked to something im passionate about - how week in and week out i swear and cuss these players left right and centre but death removes the badge from the footballer and makes them human again and with that comes the ability to be vulnerable and suseptable to anything and i guess it is this that affects us as humans because even the most talented and athletic people can be struck down at any point.

― james (james), Friday, 27 June 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

true, it does seem a bit ridiculous that things like this do happen everyday often to people even younger but if they're not remotely famous for some reason you're more likely to feel less shocked or intrigued. i mean i never took any notice of Marc Vivien-Foe anyway but i knew the name and knew he was generally regarded to be a decent player, perhaps one of the best Cameroon has seen in recent years. irrespective of that the whole thing just brings to light the fragility of life because as i pointed out, we were able to watch this person being as engaged in life as you could be (physically, sensually - if thats the right word) just a very brief time before he died which is, fortunately, rare enough but shocking enough to compel you to comment.

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 27 June 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think James just hit the nail on the head, I've thought about this far more than I have about so many other deaths. It's just such a tragic end for a decent man.

― chris (chris), Friday, 27 June 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

It's the complee lack of justification that's thought-provoking, i think. Not an accident. Not an illness. No forwarning. No blame. Just death.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 27 June 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess it always happens when someone famous dies, it just re-inforces that they are human after all. I keep getting outraged by the news on the radio though as they mention glasto b4 they mention him, it just doesnt seem right. It certainly seems to be a thought lingering in my head far more than other deaths you hear about on the news.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 27 June 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

off-topic: i hate the way Glasto dominates the news now, it never used to, whats changed?

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 27 June 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I couldn't believe this when I found it scouring the web for scraps of football news, very very sad.

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 27 June 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I was reading all the tributes earlier and got quite choked up. I didn't realise his wife's not long since had a baby.

― Tag (Tag), Friday, 27 June 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard when I turned on to watch the other semi. It was appalling. The look on Thierry Henry's face was very moving, I thought.

I'm glad the final is going ahead. Obviously I'm guessing, but cancelling a football match seems contrary to what footballers are about, and if both teams would for example declare that the final is a tribute to and in honour of Foe, that would seem the best possible kind of action that could be taken. I imagine almost everyone will be hoping that Cameroon can win it.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 27 June 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh i dont see what good cancelling the match does, except the players may find it difficult perhaps. i dont expect the France vs Cameroon to be a thriller now to be honest, although if they did both come out and play with full passion that would be great and a fitting, appropriate to Foe i feel.

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 27 June 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

fitting, appropriate TRIBUTE to VIVIEN-Foe i mean

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 27 June 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i high and i drunk but i make sure i type this right. i so sad about foe. i have man city fan as close friend. i really shocked by this. whethre i should bne oe not, marc vivien-foe RIP, you were a fine player and a popular player

― gareth (gareth), Saturday, 28 June 2003 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The question of mourning famous people more than ordinary people. It's just a fact that MVF was in my consciousness. Other people die tragically, but you do have a certain relationship with famous people, and this is certainly true of footballers at your club, whose fortunes you follow, and whose actions have such a bearing on your mood on a Saturday evening! And let us not forget that football fans are notoriously sentimental.

MVF scored the last City goal at Maine Rd and I was there. He scored two crackers that day, arriving from midfield with impeccable timing.

― Daniel (dancity), Saturday, 28 June 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure if I'm going to watch the final. I worry I might have indulged in too much morbid rubbernecking as it is.

― Daniel (dancity), Saturday, 28 June 2003 08:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The final just kicked off, unanimously declared to be in his honour. That seems as good a tribute to a top footballer as you can get, especially with it being his nation against the nation where he played most of his career.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 29 June 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

0-0 at full time, then Henry gets the golden goal winner early in extra time. You can't begrudge them really, in that France were the best team in the tournament and Henry the best player, but it would have been nice had Cameroon done it.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 29 June 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The should have stopped the match that he was playing. I don't care if they say "that's what he would have wanted" (a moot point anyway). Its disrespectful to play in a mickey mouse cup for sponsors around something like this.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 30 June 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago)

As the score was 0-0 at full time, I thought it would have been better to end the game there & declare it a draw. I thought the celebrations afterwards when both teams stood on the podium was very fitting. Also the starting ceremonies def bought a tear to my eye. Also, his wife was so brave.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 30 June 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Sepp Blatter shows again that he is nowt more than sucker of corporate cock.

Anyway, the Confederations Cup is a bile of steaming turd (see above comment).

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 30 June 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh but at least it goes a little way to compensating lack of major Summer tournament. apparently they're going to put it back to every 4 years instead of 2 after the next one but considering they were talking about a World Cup every two years not so long ago I'll believe it when i see it.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 30 June 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't need football during the summer. I've got Big Brother.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 30 June 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure of the circumstances in the semi - when he collapsed, how clear it was what was happening, when it was known that he was dead, what options were considered - so I can't say whether I think it should have been stopped. As for the final, sharing it would have been good, but the BBC coverage firmly implied that this had been mooted, but FIFA stamped on the idea.

More broadly, I entirely agree that it is a stupid competition that shouldn't exist, but on the other hand I do miss football in the summer enough that I did watch a couple of games.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 30 June 2003 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

They certainly knew he was dead before the game had finished. It was stopped for about ten minutes before they made them restart.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 30 June 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

that isnt what rigobert song seemed to suggest?

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 30 June 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought he collapsed in the 71st (or thereabouts) minute and was stretchered off soon afterwards while they tried to revive him, which they spent 45 minutes doing, hence it would've been 20 or so minutes after the game had finsihed (or ten, if they'd stopped it for as long as 10 minutes when it happened) by the time they knew he was dead.

Just out of interest, do we know who came on as substitute for Foe? That must be a very weird situation to be in.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 30 June 2003 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I think they confirmed him dead 45 mins after he had collapsed, so the game would have been finished anyway.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 30 June 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm using the old 18th century meaning of the word certainly up there.

― Pete (Pete), Monday, 30 June 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

A good friend of my sister and her (then) boyfriend's died a few minutes after coming off a football pitch a few years ago. To this day they don't know what caused it, it wasn't a heart attack - one minute he was running around perfectly healthily and the next he was dead. He was 19. I'd never met him, but a lot of people I knew were very close to him... it's really scary when you think about it - you don't expect people to just die like that, for no apparent reason.

I'm glad they're going ahead with the final.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

er, it already happened Matt ;)

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(Glastonbury timeslip....)

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Indeed, hadn't been following the Confederations Cup at all prior to the festival and didn't know when the match was.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

That's becasue its a Mickey Mouse cup played for sponsors and so all the nice FIFA people get a free holiday.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

well why not? they work harder than the players and get paid less for it ;)

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...

Miklos Feher RIP. It's a bit weird, this.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

apparently he came on as a sub, played for 15 minutes, pulled up, smiled at the ref, bent over with his hands on his thighs and just keeled over. poor sod.

― chris (chris), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

They said on the news that it was a heart attack. I can't remember now, but was that the verdict with Foe?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this just an enormous coincidence, or are we going to see some kind of gigantic drugs scandal revealed linking both deaths?

Anyway, poor sod.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

This is so awful. I don't understand how these things can happen to fit and healthy athletes.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

This guy's only 24 too, which I think is the same as quite a few of us here (Adam, Matt DC, me, NA).

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i want to be 24 for the rest of my life right now. which sucks as i am actually 26 in a few months.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you saying that we 1973 kids keeling over and dying would be no great surprise, Nick?

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I'm 28 next month, I have the fear!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Thankfully I never do any strenuous excercise so will have to rely on the bouze, drugz, stressful lifestyle and huge quanitites of unhealthy food to finish me off.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Woo hoo! oh no wait...

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, less of a surprise, N. But not by much.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Fancy a kickabout anyone?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I would but my knee's still knackered.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i would love a kickabout

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

we should do it, for Marc!

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like a kickabout please.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

New thread? Over to Mr DC...

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

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