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Here's a piece from today's Slate, by Michael Kinsley:

Abolish Marriage
Let's really get the government out of our bedrooms.
By Michael Kinsley
Posted Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 8:25 AM PT

Critics and enthusiasts of Lawrence v. Texas, last week's Supreme Court decision invalidating state anti-sodomy laws, agree on one thing: The next argument is going to be about gay marriage. As Justice Scalia noted in his tart dissent, it follows from the logic of Lawrence. Mutually consenting sex with the person of your choice in the privacy of your own home is now a basic right of American citizenship under the Constitution. This does not mean that the government must supply it or guarantee it. But the government cannot forbid it, and the government also should not discriminate against you for choosing to exercise a basic right of citizenship. Offering an institution as important as marriage to male-female couples only is exactly this kind of discrimination. Or so the gay rights movement will now argue. Persuasively, I think.

Opponents of gay rights will resist mightily, although they have been in retreat for a couple of decades. General anti-gay sentiments are now considered a serious breach of civic etiquette, even in anti-gay circles. The current line of defense, which probably won't hold either, is between social toleration of homosexuals and social approval of homosexuality. Or between accepting the reality that people are gay, even accepting that gays are people, and endorsing something called "the gay agenda." Gay marriage, the opponents will argue, would cross this line. It would make homosexuality respectable and, worse, normal. Gays are welcome to exist all they want, and to do their inexplicable thing if they must, but they shouldn't expect a government stamp of approval.

It's going to get ugly. And then it's going to get boring. So, we have two options here. We can add gay marriage to the short list of controversies—abortion, affirmative action, the death penalty—that are so frozen and ritualistic that debates about them are more like Kabuki performances than intellectual exercises. Or we can think outside the box. There is a solution that ought to satisfy both camps and may not be a bad idea even apart from the gay-marriage controversy.

That solution is to end the institution of marriage. Or rather (he hastens to clarify, Dear) the solution is to end the institution of government-sanctioned marriage. Or, framed to appeal to conservatives: End the government monopoly on marriage. Wait, I've got it: Privatize marriage. These slogans all mean the same thing. Let churches and other religious institutions continue to offer marriage ceremonies. Let department stores and casinos get into the act if they want. Let each organization decide for itself what kinds of couples it wants to offer marriage to. Let couples celebrate their union in any way they choose and consider themselves married whenever they want. Let others be free to consider them not married, under rules these others may prefer. And, yes, if three people want to get married, or one person wants to marry herself, and someone else wants to conduct a ceremony and declare them married, let 'em. If you and your government aren't implicated, what do you care?

In fact, there is nothing to stop any of this from happening now. And a lot of it does happen. But only certain marriages get certified by the government. So, in the United States we are about to find ourselves in a strange situation where the principal demand of a liberation movement is to be included in the red tape of a government bureaucracy. Having just gotten state governments out of their bedrooms, gays now want these governments back in. Meanwhile, social-conservative anti-gays, many of them southerners, are calling on the government in Washington to trample states' rights and nationalize the rules of marriage, if necessary, to prevent gays from getting what they want. The Senate Majority Leader, Bill Frist of Tennessee, responded to the Supreme Court's Lawrence decision by endorsing a constitutional amendment, no less, against gay marriage.

If marriage were an entirely private affair, all the disputes over gay marriage would become irrelevant. Gay marriage would not have the official sanction of government, but neither would straight marriage. There would be official equality between the two, which is the essence of what gays want and are entitled to. And if the other side is sincere in saying that its concern is not what people do in private, but government endorsement of a gay "lifestyle" or "agenda," that problem goes away, too.

Yes, yes, marriage is about more than sleeping arrangements. There are children, there are finances, there are spousal job benefits like health insurance and pensions. In all these areas, marriage is used as a substitute for other factors that are harder to measure, such as financial dependence or devotion to offspring. It would be possible to write rules that measure the real factors at stake and leave marriage out of the matter. Regarding children and finances, people can set their own rules, as many already do. None of this would be easy. Marriage functions as what lawyers call a "bright line," which saves the trouble of trying to measure a lot of amorphous factors. You're either married or you're not. Once marriage itself becomes amorphous, who-gets-the-kids and who-gets-health-care become trickier questions.

So, sure, there are some legitimate objections to the idea of privatizing marriage. But they don't add up to a fatal objection. Especially when you consider that the alternative is arguing about gay marriage until death do us part.

Are there virtues to marriage being a civic-endorsed institution that would be lost if Kinsley's proposal were to be realized?

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing is, at least in Canada (I'm sure it varies from state to state), the whole legalizing gay marriage is actually moot, since gays have qualified for common-law status for some time. So it's much more of a, uh, symbolic thing rather than a legal issue.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked it as a thought-provoking tweak, since I'm not sure why government should play such a strong role in institutionalizing marriage as a Christian sacrament. (Yes, marriage is a commonplace throughout the world, but the legal force here is behind a pretty specific Judeo-Christian form of it.) What baffled me was that I couldn't tell how much of a tweak Kinsley means it to be, since he comes around to that weird dismissal of the obvious reasons government should play a role: it's our legalistic record-keeping, basically officiating this contract people enter into. (This isn't incompatible with Kinsley's point, of course: I wouldn't be surprised to see marriage shift more toward something like the officiation of whatever arrangements people are entering into, arrangements that are made public and essentially registered and certified by the state.)

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I say that, incidentally, because the idea of marriage as a legally-defined "bright line" has already been bent by prenuptial agreements: it's still a concrete legal line, but it's one that couples can negotiate and adapt to suit their needs.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, by the way, if you look at the front-page illustration Slate is using for this piece, it looks less like the bride is kicking Uncle Sam and more like she's improving on the old ping-pong ball trick.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

http://img.slate.msn.com/media/1/122939/123120/2076283/2085105/2085156/CA_030702pm_01.jpg

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

as they say, "the center of the world."

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Which has now given me the image of Uncle Sam as the ping pong ball.

Pardon me while I go poke out my mind's eye.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

That's pretty much what I was trying to imply, Luna. You'd think it would hurt more.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh she's an ex-stripper, look at her.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Her husband's all "oh, that's nice honey"

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

And the husband looks on interested but not amazed. He's seen this trick before.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Pssst, he's looking at her rack.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

of course

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

And the caption reads, "Jonathan was so entranced by his blushing bride's bountiful bosom, he failed to notice her crotchticular expulsion of a dapper old man."

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 July 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Pssst, he's looking at her rack.
that's how you can tell they're just models who posed for the picture. a real newlywed husbo would be familiar enough with the rack that he wouldn't be caught sneaking a peek.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 3 July 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Uncle Sam looks even more surprised than you'd imagine. Perhaps he's been controlling John Malkovich for half-an-hour, then suddenly - pop!

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 3 July 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the loosest* definition of Jersey turnpike I've ever heard.

* So to speak.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 July 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

my bride will so be wearing white gogo boots, uncle sam notwithstanding.

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 3 July 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If I were in charge of the world, I'd abolish marriage as a legal institution. Religions can do what they want in this line, and people can certainly celebrate moving in together or being in love or whatever, but I see no reason why the state should register this kind of thing at all.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 3 July 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

weddings are fun.

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 3 July 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

and expensive...won't somebody think of the catering industry in all of this???

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 3 July 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It's going to get ugly. And then it's going to get boring.

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Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 3 July 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

just like being at a wedding...

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 3 July 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Martin. I've never understood why some people take the whole "sanctimony of marriage" thing seriously enough that it's actually used as an argument against same-sex unions, especially considering most marriages end in divorce nowadays anyway.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 4 July 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

There is something to be said for legally requiring ongoing support for children (or a spouse who isn't financially independent)in the case of divorce. But there are probably other ways to accomplish that.

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Friday, 4 July 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That should have nothing to do with marriage, though.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 4 July 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

fifteen years pass...

Princess Khutulun (1260-1306), a cousin of Kublai Khan, is described by Polo as a superb warrior. She'd only consent to marriage if the suitor would wrestle her. If he won they'd marry, if he lost he'd forfeit his horse. When she died, she was unmarried and owned 10,000 horses. pic.twitter.com/MNaE9pVjPB

— Ed Brooke-Hitching (@foxtosser) November 6, 2018

calzino, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 15:18 (six years ago)

<3 <3 <3

Sending this to friend who does BJJ asap.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 15:24 (six years ago)

.. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?

Also

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― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 3 July 2003 19:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 15:33 (six years ago)


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